I always prefer to self criticize and this is what we should do more of to understand how great the backlash is. The right has gone way right and the left has gone way left. The center is a great place to strengthen not either extreme. But try teaching that to old dogs.
I always prefer to self criticize and this is what we should do more of to understand how great the backlash is. The right has gone way right and the left has gone way left. The center is a great place to strengthen not either extreme. But try teaching that to old dogs.
Bill, try teaching that to the young dogs on the left who want nothing but purity. Our garden person, who has a wonderful heart, but was for Bernie, thinks Biden sucks..her word. And mentioned oil and gas companies and timber. Never mind that he has a very diverse cabinet including a native American woman and a gay man, that he has chosen many diverse judges including many women, and has a black lesbian as a press secretary. Our garden person is also a lesbian, so I wish she would see the progress. One of our friends also never forgave me because his rep in the state house didn't do all that he said he would do and I pointed out that people find things are different once they are in the legislature and may have to compromise. This I guess was a mortal sin. This is also the guy who tried to tell me that Auschwitz was touristy and sneered at me. After that I told my husband that we would no longer socialize with them before basketball games in Eugene.
Re your lesbian gardener, is there some way you can communicate to her the threats, under a Trump administration and Project 2025, that will remove all of the rights and protections that the Biden administration and pre-Trump administrations will remove from her and all other non-binary Americans?
Many have already been removed in a few states, and it's likely that the current majority of the Supreme Court will act to reverse those protections and rights if Trump is reelected.
She finally happened upon Project 25. I don't know where she gets her news, but I am sure it's not main stream media. She does have access to my Facebook feed where I post Heather's letter everyday. Sometimes being an outlier all of one's life makes one cynical and I think that's part of it. We have a group here in the Salem area, that if you belong to a certain group, people should support you for some office even if you are not electable. I cite Jamie McCloud Skinner who cannot win here in Marion County, so we have a R in the Congressional 5th district. Fortunately, Jamie lost in the primary this time. We do have a married lesbian governor. These people want some kind of purist, that talks their ideals, even if in reality they cannot be achieved or only achieved in increments. I bet Bernie would have lots of compromising to do if he had been elected president. I told her that I am pragmatic when it comes to politics and yes, held my nose and voted for that dip Kurt Schrader. At this point, I would vote for a dead body if it had a D next to it.
This attitude is what I call corporate or establishment dems syndrome and not really paying attention to what is actually happening in terms of where the money comes from and who supports whom.
HumтАж ThatтАЩs personalizing things. IтАЩm watching how things play out after so many nations did open borders and look where itтАЩs gotten. Need I identify them: US, UK, Germany, Italy France, Hungry. Well thr Moors were once driven out of Spain. Nobody like uncontrolled open borders and the natural outcome is a rather nasty political shift to the right. And IтАЩm not willing to agree with millions rushing over hot sands to the promised land. And if anyone is, then get ready to salute the new Furur.
It doesn't help that there is much myth making and downright lies around the subject of immigration that stirs up emotions such as fear, anger and bigotry. In fact, it could be argued that much of the problem with immgration stems from people who have been brainwashed to fear and hate it.
Immigration is a BIG talking point for Trump. One of the Big 4: 1) women's rights; 2) gay rights; 3) racism; and 4) xenophobia, hatred of immigrants. Studies show that all of these got worse here in America during Trump's four years in office. I think that they're even worse now as the Fascists are on the march.
That was basically all he talked about during the "debate." And yes, I blame Trump for the polarization and rise of violence and violent attitudes related to race and other political themes as they have risen since his presidency, and it's not hard to understand why when his use of violent, disrepectful and hate-filled language sets an example for others, giving them permission and encouragement to do the same.
We could have solved, at least in part the immigration problem, sometime ago. But it suits exploiters to have undocumented workers that they can treat like slaves.
Most nations have their priorities on going after the businesses who employ and underpay workers. We do not, we enforce against the people they hire and not the businesses who hire them, as they fund our elected officials to look the other way. Trump also squashed any attempt to get an immigration law through Congress as he would rather continue to being a demagogue around this issue than to actually solve it. He and Miller want to imprison and deport the undocumented, their American born children (we have done this wrongfully before,) and the immigrant children who have received the right to stay in the U.S. for now. We would also see anyone Trump regards as an enemy or offering the least bit of criticism arrested and imprisoned without due process with the powers that SCOTUS has given Trump.
The irony is the people who support this are descendants of people who came when the immigration process was much simpler than it is now, some of their immigrant ancestors were unwelcome when they came, and some of their ancestors illegally entered into the U.S. themselves. My ancestors were immigrants, and I never forget it.
Yes, it is ironic. People think that this land has always belonged to them when it clearly hasn't. I do not forget that either as I know the land our house sits on and my garden once supported Native Americans. We have a house in our neighborhood which has a sign that says This is Kalipooya land. It is nice to see that someone acknowledges that. We also live in a diverse neighborhood which didn't use to be and I know that troubles some of the local residents.
Kim, it does t matter if itтАЩs legitimate or not. If the issue can be channeled into a successful coup, they win. And anyone can go meowing all you want. You may complain it wasnтАЩt fair. Till the cows come home. Mooooooooo. Moooooooo.
In fact, does anyone wonder whether my erstwhile Party demagoguing about the border has not exacerbated the crisis by saying, "Come on in!"? I have no idea what is going on at the border; I would not be surprised if the situation has been over-blown.
Someone somewhere said that exact thing. How many potential migrants heard the GOP saying that Joe was going to "open the borders?" I never heard Joe say that he was going to open the border. I don't doubt the numbers, but the reason for them rising may well have been misplaced.
Far from my being original, I heard the insight from an immigration attorney in Tejas who had consulted with both Democrat and Republican politicoes, implying his being a straight-shooter. тЪЦя╕ПЁЯдФЁЯУв
Go as Boris Johnson, who led the fight with Brexit. Maybe the European Union that is close to splitting apart over this issue. You may deny it if you wish. GermanyтАЩs far right is now second most popular movement. And our trusty ole southern border. OMG, donтАЩt tell me you donтАЩt see. Please tell me something else.
We're lucky, if one wants to call it that. Cultures can clash, causing civil unrest, and to say that there is a difference between Muslim culture and Western culture would be an understatement. I think that this helps to explain how Orban got power in Hungary.
The middle is the current Democratic party. I see nothing extreme in the policies they have passed or that Biden is proposing or in their rhetoric. Nothing remotely like what is happening with the GOP. The party itself is the extreme right.
I like this, and I agree. Recently friends who are conservative (but not Trumpers) said that they wished Biden would drop out so there could be a more moderate Democratic candidate. I said that he is a moderate Democratic candidate!
A lot of what I am talking about is local although at one point Bernie types were threatening a D in Nevada if memory serves, including where she worked. I have a long list of blockees on Facebook and many of them are nasty people on the left. What bothers me is that they were full of hubris and not voting or voting for Jill not green Stein and look what we got and immediately hard won progress started to go south. To me it is fine to have ideals to work for and we should, but politics in our system is the art of the possible. We warned people constantly in 2016 about the Supreme Court and as i have already reported, got the middle finger. Now we have all the terrible decisions to contend with including that fact the death star can do treasonous and criminal things and they gave him immunity. And they will decide which acts are official.
I think that there is always a continuum that includes extremes on both sides -- the serious problem comes when the centers of either side are weak. The center left exists, as evidenced by policy successes such as those noted in today's letter. The center right barely exists, if at all with the extreme right threatening/bullying anyone not clicking their boots together simultaneously.
It would see that way, Diane, but I have been having text exchanges with a high school buddy (Class of '58) and he is not only not well educated though highly opinionated, he is also a misanthrope. He's bitter. He's a racist. He's a Trumpster through and through.
I always prefer to self criticize and this is what we should do more of to understand how great the backlash is. The right has gone way right and the left has gone way left. The center is a great place to strengthen not either extreme. But try teaching that to old dogs.
Bill, try teaching that to the young dogs on the left who want nothing but purity. Our garden person, who has a wonderful heart, but was for Bernie, thinks Biden sucks..her word. And mentioned oil and gas companies and timber. Never mind that he has a very diverse cabinet including a native American woman and a gay man, that he has chosen many diverse judges including many women, and has a black lesbian as a press secretary. Our garden person is also a lesbian, so I wish she would see the progress. One of our friends also never forgave me because his rep in the state house didn't do all that he said he would do and I pointed out that people find things are different once they are in the legislature and may have to compromise. This I guess was a mortal sin. This is also the guy who tried to tell me that Auschwitz was touristy and sneered at me. After that I told my husband that we would no longer socialize with them before basketball games in Eugene.
Re your lesbian gardener, is there some way you can communicate to her the threats, under a Trump administration and Project 2025, that will remove all of the rights and protections that the Biden administration and pre-Trump administrations will remove from her and all other non-binary Americans?
Many have already been removed in a few states, and it's likely that the current majority of the Supreme Court will act to reverse those protections and rights if Trump is reelected.
She finally happened upon Project 25. I don't know where she gets her news, but I am sure it's not main stream media. She does have access to my Facebook feed where I post Heather's letter everyday. Sometimes being an outlier all of one's life makes one cynical and I think that's part of it. We have a group here in the Salem area, that if you belong to a certain group, people should support you for some office even if you are not electable. I cite Jamie McCloud Skinner who cannot win here in Marion County, so we have a R in the Congressional 5th district. Fortunately, Jamie lost in the primary this time. We do have a married lesbian governor. These people want some kind of purist, that talks their ideals, even if in reality they cannot be achieved or only achieved in increments. I bet Bernie would have lots of compromising to do if he had been elected president. I told her that I am pragmatic when it comes to politics and yes, held my nose and voted for that dip Kurt Schrader. At this point, I would vote for a dead body if it had a D next to it.
You are not alone!
We live in unsettled times.
And Bernie backed Biden and still does (I think)!
This attitude is what I call corporate or establishment dems syndrome and not really paying attention to what is actually happening in terms of where the money comes from and who supports whom.
HumтАж ThatтАЩs personalizing things. IтАЩm watching how things play out after so many nations did open borders and look where itтАЩs gotten. Need I identify them: US, UK, Germany, Italy France, Hungry. Well thr Moors were once driven out of Spain. Nobody like uncontrolled open borders and the natural outcome is a rather nasty political shift to the right. And IтАЩm not willing to agree with millions rushing over hot sands to the promised land. And if anyone is, then get ready to salute the new Furur.
It doesn't help that there is much myth making and downright lies around the subject of immigration that stirs up emotions such as fear, anger and bigotry. In fact, it could be argued that much of the problem with immgration stems from people who have been brainwashed to fear and hate it.
Immigration is a BIG talking point for Trump. One of the Big 4: 1) women's rights; 2) gay rights; 3) racism; and 4) xenophobia, hatred of immigrants. Studies show that all of these got worse here in America during Trump's four years in office. I think that they're even worse now as the Fascists are on the march.
That was basically all he talked about during the "debate." And yes, I blame Trump for the polarization and rise of violence and violent attitudes related to race and other political themes as they have risen since his presidency, and it's not hard to understand why when his use of violent, disrepectful and hate-filled language sets an example for others, giving them permission and encouragement to do the same.
We could have solved, at least in part the immigration problem, sometime ago. But it suits exploiters to have undocumented workers that they can treat like slaves.
Most nations have their priorities on going after the businesses who employ and underpay workers. We do not, we enforce against the people they hire and not the businesses who hire them, as they fund our elected officials to look the other way. Trump also squashed any attempt to get an immigration law through Congress as he would rather continue to being a demagogue around this issue than to actually solve it. He and Miller want to imprison and deport the undocumented, their American born children (we have done this wrongfully before,) and the immigrant children who have received the right to stay in the U.S. for now. We would also see anyone Trump regards as an enemy or offering the least bit of criticism arrested and imprisoned without due process with the powers that SCOTUS has given Trump.
The irony is the people who support this are descendants of people who came when the immigration process was much simpler than it is now, some of their immigrant ancestors were unwelcome when they came, and some of their ancestors illegally entered into the U.S. themselves. My ancestors were immigrants, and I never forget it.
Yes, it is ironic. People think that this land has always belonged to them when it clearly hasn't. I do not forget that either as I know the land our house sits on and my garden once supported Native Americans. We have a house in our neighborhood which has a sign that says This is Kalipooya land. It is nice to see that someone acknowledges that. We also live in a diverse neighborhood which didn't use to be and I know that troubles some of the local residents.
Kim, it does t matter if itтАЩs legitimate or not. If the issue can be channeled into a successful coup, they win. And anyone can go meowing all you want. You may complain it wasnтАЩt fair. Till the cows come home. Mooooooooo. Moooooooo.
I never complained that it wasn't fair. How funny you would say that.
ItтАЩs time for all of us to remove the blinders.
Who has open borders?
Another popular GOP myth.
In fact, does anyone wonder whether my erstwhile Party demagoguing about the border has not exacerbated the crisis by saying, "Come on in!"? I have no idea what is going on at the border; I would not be surprised if the situation has been over-blown.
Someone somewhere said that exact thing. How many potential migrants heard the GOP saying that Joe was going to "open the borders?" I never heard Joe say that he was going to open the border. I don't doubt the numbers, but the reason for them rising may well have been misplaced.
Far from my being original, I heard the insight from an immigration attorney in Tejas who had consulted with both Democrat and Republican politicoes, implying his being a straight-shooter. тЪЦя╕ПЁЯдФЁЯУв
Go as Boris Johnson, who led the fight with Brexit. Maybe the European Union that is close to splitting apart over this issue. You may deny it if you wish. GermanyтАЩs far right is now second most popular movement. And our trusty ole southern border. OMG, donтАЩt tell me you donтАЩt see. Please tell me something else.
I think immigration is certainly part of it, but also progress for minorities of various types including women, abortion, drugs, homelessness.
So true, Bill.
We're lucky, if one wants to call it that. Cultures can clash, causing civil unrest, and to say that there is a difference between Muslim culture and Western culture would be an understatement. I think that this helps to explain how Orban got power in Hungary.
The middle is the current Democratic party. I see nothing extreme in the policies they have passed or that Biden is proposing or in their rhetoric. Nothing remotely like what is happening with the GOP. The party itself is the extreme right.
I like this, and I agree. Recently friends who are conservative (but not Trumpers) said that they wished Biden would drop out so there could be a more moderate Democratic candidate. I said that he is a moderate Democratic candidate!
And thank you for pointing that out to your friends!
I must not read the new thoroughly as I haven't seen extremists on the left or mockery or???????????? please list there extremists actions.
A lot of what I am talking about is local although at one point Bernie types were threatening a D in Nevada if memory serves, including where she worked. I have a long list of blockees on Facebook and many of them are nasty people on the left. What bothers me is that they were full of hubris and not voting or voting for Jill not green Stein and look what we got and immediately hard won progress started to go south. To me it is fine to have ideals to work for and we should, but politics in our system is the art of the possible. We warned people constantly in 2016 about the Supreme Court and as i have already reported, got the middle finger. Now we have all the terrible decisions to contend with including that fact the death star can do treasonous and criminal things and they gave him immunity. And they will decide which acts are official.
Also; be aware of bad actors claiming to be democrats.
I think that there is always a continuum that includes extremes on both sides -- the serious problem comes when the centers of either side are weak. The center left exists, as evidenced by policy successes such as those noted in today's letter. The center right barely exists, if at all with the extreme right threatening/bullying anyone not clicking their boots together simultaneously.
Your bothsiderism is nauseating and despicable.
It would see that way, Diane, but I have been having text exchanges with a high school buddy (Class of '58) and he is not only not well educated though highly opinionated, he is also a misanthrope. He's bitter. He's a racist. He's a Trumpster through and through.
My wife is way left but I don't know too many other people or politicians that are "way left."
Do you have some people in mind?