No, that's not true. I have read many different sources and watched videos of what is happening. I support Ukraine. I despise Putin and all murderous dictators everywhere. This is about ending the horror. The US is guilty of many attacks (Iraq, for one) and coups (Chile, for one), but I still want to save our democracy. And the fact is t…
No, that's not true. I have read many different sources and watched videos of what is happening. I support Ukraine. I despise Putin and all murderous dictators everywhere. This is about ending the horror. The US is guilty of many attacks (Iraq, for one) and coups (Chile, for one), but I still want to save our democracy. And the fact is that the majority of liberal boomers continue to agree with whatever Israel says.
Agree absolutely. I'm a grown-up and grown-ups have to make hard choices. It's harder for young folks to see that. It's extremely unfortunate that this occurred now before the election. The US is hanging by a thread. I like to tell myself we're a bit protected living in California. It's all just so cruel, stupid, short-sighted. Humans crazed with greed. We don't deserve this precious earth and all its beautiful nonhuman inhabitants suffering because of us.
Texas is in the grip of governmental insanity. Hope we don’t go national. They have stacked the deck (like all despots do) so very hard to vote out. Appreciate CA. Many CA idiots have moved here. Wish I could come there. BTW, I don’t think it’s an accident that this occurred before the election. Money moves mountains. Or maybe I’m permanently suspicious.
No accident, when W/Dickie were cheated in, they smelled blood. They circled Obama, now they circle Biden. Sniping, roiling the waters, coordinating, learning from mistakes. It’s not a drill, Dems
"There are neo-Nazi pogroms against the Roma, rampant attacks on feminists and LGBT groups, book bans, and state-sponsored glorification of Nazi collaborators.
"These stories of Ukraine’s dark nationalism aren’t coming out of Moscow; they’re being filed by Western media, including US-funded Radio Free Europe (RFE); Jewish organizations such as the World Jewish Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center; and watchdogs like Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and Freedom House, which issued a joint report warning that Kiev is losing the monopoly on the use of force in the country as far-right gangs operate with impunity."
In Ukraine, the far right (including overt neo-Nazis) was put in charge of the police stations. Zelensky shut down all the opposition parties and seized their TV stations, so the only news we get out of Ukraine is heavily-censored propaganda.
"Far-right groups have also gained political currency in the past decade, none more chilling than Svoboda (formerly the Social National Party of Ukraine), whose leader claimed the country was controlled by a “Muscovite-Jewish mafia” and whose deputy used an antisemitic slur to describe Ukrainian-born Jewish actor Mila Kunis. Svoboda has sent several members to Ukraine’s Parliament, including one who called the Holocaust a “bright period” in human history, according to Foreign Policy."
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The leader of far-right Svoboda was Arsen Avakov. I remember, after the Maiden Revolution, horrified speculation that Avakov would become the new Prime Minister. He got the Interior Ministry instead, in charge of the police.
Yes there are neo-nazis in Ukraine and half the US Congress are closer in belief to Nazis than to a free democracy. We struggle against them, as do they.
No, that's not true. I have read many different sources and watched videos of what is happening. I support Ukraine. I despise Putin and all murderous dictators everywhere. This is about ending the horror. The US is guilty of many attacks (Iraq, for one) and coups (Chile, for one), but I still want to save our democracy. And the fact is that the majority of liberal boomers continue to agree with whatever Israel says.
You have a point, we are guilty of so much. There is so much horror, imagine worse if chump wins. That’s all my empathy-laden psyche can manage.
Agree absolutely. I'm a grown-up and grown-ups have to make hard choices. It's harder for young folks to see that. It's extremely unfortunate that this occurred now before the election. The US is hanging by a thread. I like to tell myself we're a bit protected living in California. It's all just so cruel, stupid, short-sighted. Humans crazed with greed. We don't deserve this precious earth and all its beautiful nonhuman inhabitants suffering because of us.
Texas is in the grip of governmental insanity. Hope we don’t go national. They have stacked the deck (like all despots do) so very hard to vote out. Appreciate CA. Many CA idiots have moved here. Wish I could come there. BTW, I don’t think it’s an accident that this occurred before the election. Money moves mountains. Or maybe I’m permanently suspicious.
God, Texas and Gov. Abbott. So sorry you're there. I suspect it's no accident either that this is happening now.
No accident, when W/Dickie were cheated in, they smelled blood. They circled Obama, now they circle Biden. Sniping, roiling the waters, coordinating, learning from mistakes. It’s not a drill, Dems
I hope you also despise Ukraine's thuggish far-right terror regime.
I don't believe that at all. Guess you're a Putin believer.
I suppose we could share facts and sources:
"There are neo-Nazi pogroms against the Roma, rampant attacks on feminists and LGBT groups, book bans, and state-sponsored glorification of Nazi collaborators.
"These stories of Ukraine’s dark nationalism aren’t coming out of Moscow; they’re being filed by Western media, including US-funded Radio Free Europe (RFE); Jewish organizations such as the World Jewish Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center; and watchdogs like Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and Freedom House, which issued a joint report warning that Kiev is losing the monopoly on the use of force in the country as far-right gangs operate with impunity."
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics_in_Ukraine
Guess who else has a neo-nazi problem?
In Ukraine, the far right (including overt neo-Nazis) was put in charge of the police stations. Zelensky shut down all the opposition parties and seized their TV stations, so the only news we get out of Ukraine is heavily-censored propaganda.
https://internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article7982
That's actually a useful article with food for thought.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946
Quoting from the article you linked:
"Far-right groups have also gained political currency in the past decade, none more chilling than Svoboda (formerly the Social National Party of Ukraine), whose leader claimed the country was controlled by a “Muscovite-Jewish mafia” and whose deputy used an antisemitic slur to describe Ukrainian-born Jewish actor Mila Kunis. Svoboda has sent several members to Ukraine’s Parliament, including one who called the Holocaust a “bright period” in human history, according to Foreign Policy."
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The leader of far-right Svoboda was Arsen Avakov. I remember, after the Maiden Revolution, horrified speculation that Avakov would become the new Prime Minister. He got the Interior Ministry instead, in charge of the police.
Do they pay you well Schmeekle?
Christopher, I hope not
...said the apologist for neo-Nazis
Yes there are neo-nazis in Ukraine and half the US Congress are closer in belief to Nazis than to a free democracy. We struggle against them, as do they.
Hahahahaha