Have you ever experienced drought? The ground is dry. Vegetation is dry. It does not take much for a fire to start in those conditions, especially when the wind is so extreme with gusts of up to 100 mph. Once a fire starts in those conditions it is very hard to stop even if those dams had been built. BTW the history of large infrastructu…
Have you ever experienced drought? The ground is dry. Vegetation is dry. It does not take much for a fire to start in those conditions, especially when the wind is so extreme with gusts of up to 100 mph. Once a fire starts in those conditions it is very hard to stop even if those dams had been built. BTW the history of large infrastructure like dams in our country is that those projects receive massive federal funding. Do you support massive federal funding for infrastructure? Trump the builder couldn’t get infrastructure bills passed through a Republican controlled Congress when he was president last time. So your whole argument is just nonsense. Republicans don’t believe in infrastructure spending and haven’t for decades.
There have been Bill after Bill after Bill to Bill reservoirs that was even one approved 2020 for a huge reservoir that still sitting and it hasn’t been built and this is what I’m talking about. You can blame Trump for whatever you want. I don’t give a shit, but honesty is honesty.
Not to mention that I just posted it elsewhere. There was an original budget to build a high speed rail by the Democrats from San Francisco to LA which hasn’t even gotten off the ground. The original buzz it was 33 billion and now it’s 88 billion. This is the Democrat controlled state.
"The mayor is apparently in Ghana," she wrote. "The fire departments budget was apparently cut by 17 mil. And someone made the decision to not refill some of the reservoirs - now some fire hydrants are dry. Leadership in California is beyond negligent. This is completely unacceptable."
In another post, Michaels continued, "California governor @GavinNewsom issues a press release admitting they knew about the insane fire risk this past Sunday because he was propositioning fire engines. And yet, he just called in the national guard a few hours ago. Pacific Palisades ran out of water at 3am. I’m so so upset for the people of California. My family who stayed. My lifelong friends who live there. Our brave firefighters. This is not a partisan issue it’s pure incompetence and misprioritization."
You’re kidding me with your post, right I live in Nevada and I lived in California for 30 years and went through decades and decades of needless fires due to an under allocation of budget to stopping these things from happening. Mitigating their damage by fire barriers, brush clearance, etc.. and not allowing millions and millions of clean water run into the Pacific Ocean for no reason at all other environmental bullshit like saving the smelt or an almost extinct bird instead, let’s just allow hundreds of billions of dollars to damage to peoples lives and people’s homes
A damn is a damn for a reason. It’s not infrastructure like a road or a train. It’s saving water from running into the ocean and wasting it.
And under Democratic control they refused to do it
And let me say something else since you brought it up if the Democrats didn’t stop Trump from mitigating the building of the wall, we wouldn’t have spent $150 already on a illegal immigrants and having to clean it up now which is gonna cost another hundred billion.
I’ve lived in four different states and I’ve seen infrastructure plans built everywhere. This is beyond infrastructure. And by the way, the dams are not being built to stop the fires. It’s to give the fire department enough water to use to put them out right now. Fire trucks are pulling up to the fire hydrants and there’s no water in there.
Give it up Rick, you are making up bullshit. You don’t even believe. Water storage doesn’t have anything to do with wildfire. Fire hydrants have nothing to do with wildfires. 🤪🤣🤣🤣
Correct. they have to do with saving homes AND LIVES from wildfires. How do empty hydrants do that ? You don’t get it at all,?
2020 prop 1 in Cali ..one billion to build water reservoirs and nothing has been done. As an example. You should read the comments from ACTUAL VICTIMS OF THESE FIRES AND SEE WHY THEY ARE COMPLAINING AND WHO THEY ARE BLAMING .
True enough rick, fire hydrants save homes in cities and suburbs. In this case the hydrants were dry due to infrastructure being inadequate. Watersheds in northern CA do not share water to so-cal. That water comes from eastern sierra and Colorado rivers. It literally has nothing to do with the important work of saving native fish from extinction due to misuse of water resources. Being a nor-cal native i have lived with wildfires my entire life and around here there are no hydrants in sight. That is for the city folks. Wildfires are primarily burning in forests far away from the hydrants. If they become strong enough to break into the urban interface they are generally beyond hydrants. There is a bigger picture here than political fact spinning.
The problem with politics here in this case is what happened just prior to this fire where apparently Newsome cut the budget by 100000,000 and the mayor of LA cut the firefighting budget by 17 million and the fire chief wrote a letter in November stating that under these conditions if there is a major fire, they won’t be able to handle it and now the fire chief is yelling and screaming at the top of her lungs only to be stifle by the mayor and maybe even fired I don’t like the political blame game but in this case wrong place wrong time.
Yes, and one of the problems is when you have a configuration like this you open up in Northern Cal to help the people in southern Cal. It’s one state not two different states. I’m not sure if that’s structurally feasible, but it should be.
Sean, the reservoirs were full in Northern California and Residence saw firefighters opened the valves of the fire hydrants to save their homes and there was nothing and now it’s just been discovered that apparently there was a big reservoir above Pacific Palisades that was drained a few months ago before the fire I’m not sure if that’s true but I’m gonna send you a link. I don’t agree with the assertions made but some of the facts if they’re true or actually scary. https://t.co/RVTZpU0pW5
Again, I think this video is over the top but again I’m gonna start checking the facts and if this is true, it’s horrific.
I have posted here before that back in 2020 I believe or even earlier $1 billion was set aside for to build two reservoirs in order to mitigate the vast damage that has happened this time and the money still sitting there. Nothing has been done
I also posted a little while ago a link to the history of California fires which have been happening since the mid 1800’s. There is a map that shows how many fires so this is historic incompetence not just on this administration, but in the entire state and federal government.
Have you ever experienced drought? The ground is dry. Vegetation is dry. It does not take much for a fire to start in those conditions, especially when the wind is so extreme with gusts of up to 100 mph. Once a fire starts in those conditions it is very hard to stop even if those dams had been built. BTW the history of large infrastructure like dams in our country is that those projects receive massive federal funding. Do you support massive federal funding for infrastructure? Trump the builder couldn’t get infrastructure bills passed through a Republican controlled Congress when he was president last time. So your whole argument is just nonsense. Republicans don’t believe in infrastructure spending and haven’t for decades.
There have been Bill after Bill after Bill to Bill reservoirs that was even one approved 2020 for a huge reservoir that still sitting and it hasn’t been built and this is what I’m talking about. You can blame Trump for whatever you want. I don’t give a shit, but honesty is honesty.
Not to mention that I just posted it elsewhere. There was an original budget to build a high speed rail by the Democrats from San Francisco to LA which hasn’t even gotten off the ground. The original buzz it was 33 billion and now it’s 88 billion. This is the Democrat controlled state.
By the way that rail was supposed to be completed in 2020. And it doesn’t exist.
"The mayor is apparently in Ghana," she wrote. "The fire departments budget was apparently cut by 17 mil. And someone made the decision to not refill some of the reservoirs - now some fire hydrants are dry. Leadership in California is beyond negligent. This is completely unacceptable."
In another post, Michaels continued, "California governor @GavinNewsom issues a press release admitting they knew about the insane fire risk this past Sunday because he was propositioning fire engines. And yet, he just called in the national guard a few hours ago. Pacific Palisades ran out of water at 3am. I’m so so upset for the people of California. My family who stayed. My lifelong friends who live there. Our brave firefighters. This is not a partisan issue it’s pure incompetence and misprioritization."
You’re kidding me with your post, right I live in Nevada and I lived in California for 30 years and went through decades and decades of needless fires due to an under allocation of budget to stopping these things from happening. Mitigating their damage by fire barriers, brush clearance, etc.. and not allowing millions and millions of clean water run into the Pacific Ocean for no reason at all other environmental bullshit like saving the smelt or an almost extinct bird instead, let’s just allow hundreds of billions of dollars to damage to peoples lives and people’s homes
A damn is a damn for a reason. It’s not infrastructure like a road or a train. It’s saving water from running into the ocean and wasting it.
And under Democratic control they refused to do it
And let me say something else since you brought it up if the Democrats didn’t stop Trump from mitigating the building of the wall, we wouldn’t have spent $150 already on a illegal immigrants and having to clean it up now which is gonna cost another hundred billion.
I’ve lived in four different states and I’ve seen infrastructure plans built everywhere. This is beyond infrastructure. And by the way, the dams are not being built to stop the fires. It’s to give the fire department enough water to use to put them out right now. Fire trucks are pulling up to the fire hydrants and there’s no water in there.
Give it up Rick, you are making up bullshit. You don’t even believe. Water storage doesn’t have anything to do with wildfire. Fire hydrants have nothing to do with wildfires. 🤪🤣🤣🤣
Correct. they have to do with saving homes AND LIVES from wildfires. How do empty hydrants do that ? You don’t get it at all,?
2020 prop 1 in Cali ..one billion to build water reservoirs and nothing has been done. As an example. You should read the comments from ACTUAL VICTIMS OF THESE FIRES AND SEE WHY THEY ARE COMPLAINING AND WHO THEY ARE BLAMING .
True enough rick, fire hydrants save homes in cities and suburbs. In this case the hydrants were dry due to infrastructure being inadequate. Watersheds in northern CA do not share water to so-cal. That water comes from eastern sierra and Colorado rivers. It literally has nothing to do with the important work of saving native fish from extinction due to misuse of water resources. Being a nor-cal native i have lived with wildfires my entire life and around here there are no hydrants in sight. That is for the city folks. Wildfires are primarily burning in forests far away from the hydrants. If they become strong enough to break into the urban interface they are generally beyond hydrants. There is a bigger picture here than political fact spinning.
The problem with politics here in this case is what happened just prior to this fire where apparently Newsome cut the budget by 100000,000 and the mayor of LA cut the firefighting budget by 17 million and the fire chief wrote a letter in November stating that under these conditions if there is a major fire, they won’t be able to handle it and now the fire chief is yelling and screaming at the top of her lungs only to be stifle by the mayor and maybe even fired I don’t like the political blame game but in this case wrong place wrong time.
Yes, and one of the problems is when you have a configuration like this you open up in Northern Cal to help the people in southern Cal. It’s one state not two different states. I’m not sure if that’s structurally feasible, but it should be.
Conflagration sorry spell check
Sean, the reservoirs were full in Northern California and Residence saw firefighters opened the valves of the fire hydrants to save their homes and there was nothing and now it’s just been discovered that apparently there was a big reservoir above Pacific Palisades that was drained a few months ago before the fire I’m not sure if that’s true but I’m gonna send you a link. I don’t agree with the assertions made but some of the facts if they’re true or actually scary. https://t.co/RVTZpU0pW5
Again, I think this video is over the top but again I’m gonna start checking the facts and if this is true, it’s horrific.
I have posted here before that back in 2020 I believe or even earlier $1 billion was set aside for to build two reservoirs in order to mitigate the vast damage that has happened this time and the money still sitting there. Nothing has been done
I also posted a little while ago a link to the history of California fires which have been happening since the mid 1800’s. There is a map that shows how many fires so this is historic incompetence not just on this administration, but in the entire state and federal government.