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Fred WI's avatar

Eloquent. I too think the preamble is one of the most historic statements of intent and believe achieving justice, given that intent, gets so muddied up with accountability (persecution) under laws written to sidestep justice for adherence to intents of the minority, the ruling class. Laws are never made by the poor or by the persecuted, but by those who control power and resources, and history shows us that the more local such control and power rests, the narrower and swifter the laws are written and enfoced to protect the interests of the few who believe they are doing what's best for the ruled.

I made this point in response to Keith's post, but think it applies here as well, Bruce:

Me thinks that the goal among conservatives is to achieve a confederacy of states, rather than a union. It was the dissenting opinion in 1887 and has remained the belief of conservatives since that time and the intent of the founding fathers so argued by originalists. The current Republican Party is merely the mantle, the robe, for local authority, a nation of self-directed states.

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Peter Burnett's avatar

...Each under the direction of the local robber baron, all the way down to the biggest fish in the smallest puddle...

And yet, as I've kept repeating, there's this problem of congressional constipation so chronic and severe that it may kill the body politic: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/01/08/scalia-was-right-make-amending-the-constitution-easier-526780

If Congress did what it is there for, every level of local government would function better for human citizens, not just sewer rats and industrial poisoners...

Let's not forget the many states and cities governed by brilliant leaders who are anything but destructive finders-keepers-Conservatives.

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B Carpenter - Thinking Deeply's avatar

You do grasp the point. Justice is about equality under law, fairness, loving one's neighbor, compassion, and empathy. It is not about criminal punishment when someone violates a rule or a law. The reason justice is portrayed blindfolded is to show that all should be regarded as equal under our laws. America, in my own view, has a perverted view of criminal "justice." Most believe it is about punishing wrongdoers rather than working to achieve fairness and equality for all under our laws and in society at large. Clearly, conservatives so offended by the idea of critical race theory, a topic of discussion until recently only in advanced elective law school classes, do not get the idea of justice. But then they seem to understand so little about almost anything.

This is a rather long and complex issue for this forum, but I have spent much time and energy during my lifetime advocating and working for change in the area of social justice. It is one I am very passionate about. I remember once telling my young daughter that policemen in Britain did not typically carry guns. My daughter's response at that time was "is Britain even on this planet?" We have had many discussions since then about the meaning of justice and she is now, as an attorney, also a passionate social justice advocate and very much a supporter of criminal justice reform.

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Bill Willis (SC from NYC, etc)'s avatar

“The best beloved of all things in My sight is Justice; … By its aid thou shalt see with thine own eyes and not through the eyes of others, and shalt know of thine own knowledge and not through the knowledge of thy neighbor. … Verily justice is My gift to thee and the sign of My loving-kindness. Set it then before thine eyes.”

[Excerpted from The Hidden Words, No. 2 from the Arabic]

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