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American Democracy has supported:

Native "removal" (which actually means extermination).

Slavery (including horrors beyond belief that were legal).

Jim Crow

Segregation (formally by Federal "Red Lining")

Preventing some Americans from getting loans for housing.

Vietnam (where we invaded a country that was trying to free itself from Colonial rule and wantonly and with abandon killed innocent humans for 20 years).

Outsourcing, pushing many into poverty that were middle class.

Offshoring of America's manufacturing (now this bites in so many ways).

Afghanistan (where America killed innocent humans for 20 years for the simple goal of enriching military contractors).

Iraq (where America has killed innocent humans for 20 years for the simple goal of enriching military contractors.

btw: I am sure this list of limitations associated with "American Democracy" is very, very partial.

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Mike, you are spot on.

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In this time, when everyone in the West is supposed to be upset by Russia's push for a "zone of interest", you might also remind of the US relationship to Latin America.

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Olaf,

Yes, I forgot all the dictatorships we put in place when the people of Latin America VOTED for socialist policy leaders.

Yep, you are right. Thank you.

In fact, one of Ronnie's signature accomplishments was weapons sales to Iraq and money transfer to a bloodthirsty dictator in Latin America.

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(Sweden)

US investments in SE Asia outside China exceed those inside China. That is set to be a reason for the US to defend against any expansion of Chinese interest in the region. For the US investments in Indonesia, the murder of one million people was required; all that could possibly start labor unions or act for workers rights.

Now, Sweden, as the rest of the rich world is not innocent of anything of this, just by profiting and not actually doing things.

As I have written here before, I think fascism should be understood as 'surviving at the cost of others', and counted generations back, and globally. Industrialization and globalization have enabled a lot of us to survive without noticing at who's cost. One sign of fascism I think is 'to go with the winners', as was very much the luck of Sweden after WWII. Originally I think that belongs to women who can give birth, and is legitimate for the sake of new life. Not respected though if the winning side is changing, as we can see from the poor Norwegian and Danish women getting children with German soldiers after 1940.

I hope the split in the US, even if created by one minority side, does not obscure the fact that we are all survivors at the cost of others.

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Olaf,

"I hope the split in the US, even if created by one minority side, does not obscure the fact that we are all survivors at the cost of others."

I don't have any confidence that Republicans can do anything other than demonize anyone who is not like them.

So, empathy is something I am not counting on. Republicans have lost that capacity.

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Nor am I counting on that. Your first post hinted that there might be room for a second thought, before the split becomes that between 'good' and 'evil' on both sides.

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