38 Comments
User's avatar
тна Return to thread
Carmen's avatar

The Republicans will cause as much damage as they can in the name of personal freedom. The world they want would/will cause them more harm than they can imagine. A weakened US may fail to protect itself against rising autocratic challengers both foreign and domestic. They fool themselves if they believe they can hold that tiger by the tail.

Expand full comment
Cathy Wampler's avatar

They want "personal freedom" by putting an authoritarian government into place. I don't think they understand what they are asking for and what they would be getting (and losing).

But this is not the sharpest lot. Need more funding for education and critical thinking.

Expand full comment
JDinTX's avatar

How about common sense, which is anything but common. Drowned by the propaganda machine. ItтАЩs not just the MAGAts, itтАЩs the spineless republicans with no semblance of a backbone. One and the sameтАж deliberately

Expand full comment
Linda Bailey's avatar

Jeri, that's absolutely true. It isn't just the handful of wing nuts that are destroying this Country. This is a very decided "us v them". They are winning.

Expand full comment
Marva's avatar

The thing is, these people have degrees in all sorts of education and yet remain ignorant boneheaded тАЬthinkersтАЭ with no commonsense, only common cruelty, meanness and a desire to brutally harm others.

Expand full comment
Carmen's avatar

They are well schooled,, but not educated.. Prejudice taints their thinking.

Expand full comment
Peaceful Protester's avatar

Perhaps their degrees arenтАЩt real.

Expand full comment
Bill Alstrom (MAtoMainetoMA)'s avatar

We need to take back the word "FREEDOM". They are redefining it as control and interference in personal lives, as in "my religion must dominate".

They are no better than Nazis or Stalinists. Which would be an irony of epic proportions - but they won't get it.

Expand full comment
becky estill's avatar

We need to ask, "WHOSE personal freedom?"

Expand full comment
J L Graham's avatar

The thing that a failed state teaches is that there is no freedom in a social sense without setting of boundaries and rights that apply to all. Modern Republicans claim privilege and impunity, not freedom, and freedom and bullying don't mix.

Expand full comment
William Burke's avatar

And consequences are what we need to reduce the impunity. Lack of consequences is coming with a very high price. я┐╝

Expand full comment
Linda Bailey's avatar

William, consequences don't exist.

Expand full comment
Frankom's avatar

The fact that we have let this happen has been a learning experience.

Expand full comment
J L Graham's avatar

It certainty needs to be.

Expand full comment
MLRGRMI's avatar

Bravo on your comment here, J L Graham!

Expand full comment
Fay Reid's avatar

The most immediate challenge is from the domestic authoritarians in the formerly Republican Party. Foreign enemies will await the outcome.

Expand full comment
Kevin's avatar

The whole world is watching. China and North Korea are planning accordingly. With the potential for another world war, weтАЩre not in good hands with the gop in charge.

Expand full comment
JennSH from NC's avatar

As far as I can tell that "personal freedom" that Republicans constantly tout is only for the affluent who make more than $15/hour, who don't drive a clunker car that they can't afford to repair or replace, who have a job with paid leave, and can afford decent, reliable daycare for their kids. Crunch some numbers and see if you can eat and live indoors at the same time on $15/hour.

Expand full comment
J L Graham's avatar

тАЬIn its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread.тАЭ тАФ Anatole France

And it's not even that equitable since the "rules" that Republicans now apply to themselves are starkly different than those they, with great drama and self-righteousness, impose on others, such as when a president is justified in appointing a SCOTUS justice or DeSantis' stance on "indoctrinating children".

Tyranny is the "elephant in the room".

Expand full comment
Chuck Lavazzi's avatar

True. Which may explain why so much of the right gets so much support from Putin and other members of Club Oligarch.

Expand full comment
User's avatar
Comment deleted
Feb 3, 2023Edited
Comment deleted
Expand full comment
Bill Alstrom (MAtoMainetoMA)'s avatar

Excellent analogy. So the question becomes what "pitch" to the American people will win in 2024? Will it be the one filled with anger and hate? Or will it be the one that legislates for the betterment of our citizens?

Hunter's laptop or terrific jobs in semiconductors?

Anti-science rhetoric or life saving medicines?

The Russian Connection or the fight for human rights and Western values?

Violence via daily gun slaughters or reasonable regulations?

Putting women "back in the kitchen" or Affordable Childcare?

Control over women's reproductive choices or true FREEDOM?

ER based healthcare or a system that costs half as much and prevents illness?

There is much more. But I just re-read this list and I can't believe I typed in the year 2023.

Expand full comment
JaneDough56's avatar

It will involve stoking the hate train. We all believe itтАЩs Fox News and/or social media, but at this point, the message is being woven into church sermons. ItтАЩs bigger than I ever imagined.

Expand full comment
No Prey Here's avatar

All of the items on left are base level emotional feedback/adrenaline/dominance postures -- requiring nothing but "join us" effort to feel the jolt. Items on the right require more effort and ability to slow down and reason for our reward of "joining a community". They've had 20+ years of subliminal drumbeats on radio, tv, social media to create their following that only knows reactive states. The AR-15 pins - the signaling in this - frightening.

Expand full comment
User's avatar
Comment deleted
Feb 3, 2023
Comment deleted
Expand full comment
Miselle's avatar

BK, you hit upon something that a friend and I discussed about a year ago. We were talking about the TIkTok Ice challenge where people raised money for charity. Then there were all these dangerous challenges, like the tide pods.

We agreed, why can't there be a challenge for longest running Straight A's in school, but agreed it would take too long. We then thought, how about challenges for collecting the most trash off of streets? Be it by pound or cubic feet, probably the latter as the picture of mounds of trash would be more likely to go viral.

Expand full comment
Sue Selman, OC/CA's avatar

Excellent summary list and a very depressing one.

Expand full comment
JaneDough56's avatar

TheyтАЩve been there before, most recently in 2011. But it really feels like they are driving the car off the cliff this time. They want a civil war and believe that if they canтАЩt get it by gerrymandering enough of the votes, theyтАЩre going straight to violence.

Just remember that when you hear about the next mass-shooting, Republicans arenтАЩt going to put out the тАЬthoughts and prayersтАЭ BS anymore, especially if that shooting involves minority groups. TheyтАЩre done with all that.

Expand full comment
Marva's avatar

You are right & you make me cry tears of frustration & rage at the idiocy.

Expand full comment
JaneDough56's avatar

In some ways, I am a little hopeful that for all the fits of rage we will be subjected to, we will once again get nothing of substance from them. Some day, Americans will tire of all the theater, because they will be so unsuccessful. They will get nothing accomplished.

Expand full comment
Marj's avatar

The theater parts so front and center now. I have to mute KM.

Expand full comment
Patricia Davis's avatar

Hear HearЁЯСПЁЯЩМ

Expand full comment