The news this week is overwhelming and it is refreshing to read this, distilled to the heart of the matter. A side note: I’ve known several people with fairly high government security clearances over the years. If anyone of them had taken nationally classified documents home, they’d already be in custody.
This case appears open and shut. What's not known is the degree and extent of national security being compromised. As swamped as the Justice Department is, Merrick Garland has no justification for not opening an investigation, ordering the FBI to learn what happened to the documents for months at Mar-a-Lago, and turning over the evidence to a grand jury.
Michael, I not only agree, but also would add that for some time there has been sufficient factual predication to open up criminal investigations involving not only the Jan. 6th foot soldiers. I understand from Laurence Tribe that some months ago several scholars and former prosecutors had laid out a blueprint for a myriad of criminal offenses that might have been committed by Trump and by others at the top. The key point was not to obsess over the political downsides of an indictment. That was for a later day. That understood, surely now, presuming Garland has not already ginned up a full-blown criminal investigation, he should do so at once.
Frankly, my concern, after four years of Trump, is that Garland is so intent on re-establishing the independence of the Justice Department that he is overly cautious about appearing partisan. I would note, to the contrary, that if Main Justice doesn’t start holding everybody at the top accountable, at least to the point of being subject to full-blown criminal investigation, then we’re really giving up on democracy, which is premised both on our having institutions we can trust and, of course, also on the idea that no one is above the law. As a final point, I would note that it’s not nearly as easy to stonewall a grand jury as it is to stonewall a congressional committee.
There are a number of honorable and normal steps AG Garland could take to send a clear message on the opening of an investgation without breaching DOJ norms, policies, or compromising its independence. Among the most effective would be the appointment of a special counsel. We have seen with the appointment and investigation by John Durham of the opening of the Mueller probe how this protects an investigation even across the change of administrations. This should have been done months ago. Tomorrow would be acceptable to correct this oversight. A second step would be convening a special grand jury to hear evidence of a conspiracy and render indictments or not. If DOJ intends to examine these matters internally rather than use a special counsel, then let’s get the special grand jury impaneled.
David, Because I didn’t see Tribe’s tweet, I’m uncertain of how it squares with his earlier comments. Additionally, if the tweet reads as you say, I’m also uncertain about actions by the DOJ that would justify the tweet. As a final point, I would note that BruceC’s comment above is a useful reference for all of us.
Good points, Barbara and BruceC, especially about a grand jury. And suspects also can't endlessly appeal Justice Department subpoenas. On the one-year anniversary of the insurrection, Garland said those involved at every level would be held accountable. So I believe the department will do its job, though perhaps there was a better way. To BruceC's Just knowing that a special counsel had appoint to take on this job would have given us more hope.
Michael, Like you, I was particularly intrigued by BruceC’s mention of a designated special counsel, thus moving the investigation out of DOJ and also removing any conflict of interest.
Sophia, Though I don’t attribute the recent developments you mentioned to DOJ, I do appreciate your confidence and also would note that I view BruceC’s comment above as a useful reference for all of us.
All these attacks on AG Merrick Garland are extremely puzzling. How do YOU know he has not ordered an investigation, or that it is even necessary for the DOJ to tell the FBI how to do their job?
I so agree, MaryPat. And certainly not the moment in time to be didactic about the Justice Dept. I trust that this Atty General knows better than any of us about “justification”.
Sadly, at this point it is difficult to believe that no whisper of a criminal investigation of T___p and his cronies has escaped from the DOJ. If something is going on, then there is an unprecedented level of security in the department.
As divided as this country is, and as frustrating as it is to not yet have charges from DOJ, perhaps part of the calculus is that State cases, both civil and criminal, would be preferable if they accomplish the same goals. The main aim should be to prevent TFG from ever holding office again, and despite his grandiose claims of multi-billionaire status, he'll likely be bankrupted. At that point, the oligarchs will desert him like rats from a sinking ship. While effective, this will frustrate many of us who long to see him and his family in orange jumpsuits. The bad news is that the Republican party will have many volunteers to replace him as leader of an authoritarian government here in the "land of the free."
Beyond true. In Tx, Gov Abbott is a horror. However, I believe that Lt Gov Dan Patrick is more dangerous. He actually believes the bull Schitt that they foist on all Texans. He is a religious zealot who has no respect for any opinion but his own. He was a poor excuse for a sports reporter when I lived in Houston years ago. Now he has illusions of grandeur that match chumps. Now he is going after tenure after they have shut down any teaching of the ugly parts of our history. He has big money behind his evil. God forbid he go nationwide.
Yes. And there will be plenty coming up at federal level that will belong to the DOJ. Unlike the Special Committee on Jan 6th, Atty Gen Garland’s dept intact until Jan 2025.
Christine, I agree. If anything at all comes of the multiple crimes Trump has committed, the State will have the most teeth to atleast do something. I don't expect it to be the level at which most people want, but it may be more than he has had in the past.
Preferably a red state like Georgia? But wait, a Black prosecutor would be “racist.” And those in New York are “far left radical communists.” However, financial crimes are supposedly easier to prove. Motive for cheating isn’t relevant, perhaps. He didn’t cheat to make America great again, unless you believe America is better off when the right kind of people can cheat.
I do not have any info regarding what the AG is doing right now about all this, but recently I went to a page on the Federalist Society <spit> site, whereon I found the following lists of speakers who shared a FS dais with Garland over the years:
I share your frustration. My initial reaction to this discovery of classified documents being removed to Florida was - handcuffs now please!
But in reference to Garland, I believe he is as meticulous and ethical as any American could be. If I were him, I would be assembling my facts and evaluating the law so carefully that when ultimately charging someone, the results would be almost pre-determined. Garland will always look at these matters from a judge's perspective which is "don't bring anything before me unless you have an iron clad case."
And if I were Garland I would do it in a manner that does not reveal it's destination until absolutely necessary. I would hold my cards close until I hauled in the pot.
Yes, and it is the Jan. 6 investigative committee that has uncovered the stolen documents, among other incriminating evidence. Perhaps Garland is on their coattails, gathering the evidence after they do?
What is your rationale supporting your contention?
Attorney General Merrick Garland is truly a patriot, as you are also.
The General is NOT required to openly divulge his efforts just because we lack the patience, (sufficient knowledge of the process required to succeed in court), to support and trust in the Generals competence.
We should, instead of casting any doubt whatsoever, profusely thank our FATHER in Heaven for HIS blessing upon us for General Garland's self-less sacrificing for accepting what he surely knew would be a thankless job.
The man is a National treasure who will sure be instrumental in saving our American Democracy!
Yes, "General Garland!" We are in the midst of a War on Justice in this country, seeded by the same dictator who this day intends to invade and steal Ukraine. As Lucian Truscott IV wrote today on his Substack site: "I think Garland and the DOJ are way ahead of where we think they are. I think their effectiveness can be measured at least in part by the fact they do not leak. Everyone should put their slippers on and sit back and wait for the show to start."
George, it does seem that locking up Trump is something that America is not really organized to do in a timely manner that prevents him from continuing his campaign to dismember American Democracy.
However, we do have Angola prison, that former slave plantation, down in Alabama, where, I think it is still legal to use prisoners to pick cotton.
Angola to make sure that if a black man steals a loaf of bread from the 7-11 to feed his starving family, because there are no jobs for black folks, he gets properly and promptly locked up to pick cotton in the summer.
So, its all good. Let Garland tiptoe around Trump. No worries. If, by time Garland gets ready to charge Trump, Trump is already dictator for life.....
....no worries.
If you have helped Trump like Putin, you will be just fine.
Who are you referring to in your last sentence, Mike S? Are you projecting the attorney general being “fine” or the commentator you are addressing? Either way, you are suggesting aiding and abetting an enemy. Totally inappropriate.
Hi Christine. I am suggesting, in what must not be a clear way, that those who are helping Trump dismantle our Democracy will be just fine if Trump becomes dictator. Until they are not of course. Trump is as erratic as a fruit fly.
My comment was directed at George, but, perhaps that is too pointed.
I think criticism of Merrick Garland around timing is appropriate given the damage that Trump continues to do every day.
Leaving Trump loose is not a free pass for America while Merrick gathers and gathers and gathers and gathers evidence.
Mike, Mike, Mike. What would your mother say? Don’t get me wrong. I find him repulsive too. Remember his social development stopped when he was 8 years old or so. We will be rid of him. Meanwhile we are dealing with a childlike mental focus. Putin recognized this. The GOP recognized this. Both worked to throw the nation off balance and thwart Freedom and democracy. We all know the stakes now. Perhaps the Ukraine can somehow escape the clutches of the Putin Trump Conspiracy that is playing out now. Perhaps not.
I support Garland. No attorney general has faced a bigger challenge. Any doubts I had were allayed by his comments on the one-year anniversary of the insurrection. The process is frustratingly slow, even in normal times. But that's because it's meticulous and seeks to be fair.
George, Though your query is not addressed to me, since my endorsement of Michael’s stance is included in this thread, I’d be interested in knowing whether, in your view, I have provided ample justification. Thanks.
Speculation about Attorney General Merrick Garland’s competence is commensurate with American’s very short memory about even the most spectacular news.
Surely being acquainted with some knowledge of General Garland would obviate any doubt about him.
Merrick Garland wrote his 235-page honors thesis on industrial mergers in Britain in the 1960s.
Merrick Garland graduated from Harvard in 1974 as class valedictorian with an A.B. summa cum laude and was elected to Phi Beta Kappa.
Merrick Garland then attended Harvard Law School, where he was a member of the Harvard Law Review.
General Garland has not forgotten the disaster caused by the inconclusiveness of the Robert Mueller report. Trump and all his minions used such manipulated ineffectualness to falsely declare his exoneration of the stipulated guilt which was clearly spelled out in the RM report.
Any investigation/indictment/prosecution of the first president in the history of the United States of America that fails to convincingly convict trump will likely become the disaster sought by all those who strive to destroy American democracy.
George, Thank you for your detailed response. As for your caveat regarding the Mueller investigation. I would note that Barr’s bastardized 21/2 page summary, the only text we saw for a month once the investigation was completed, coupled with Muller’s abysmal testimonial performance lead me not to trust this example as a reliable precedent. Additionally, I would note that my comment mainly focused on the consequences of not holding those at the top accountable, at least to the point of being subject to full-blown investigation. As noted, said persons, who continue to stonewall the Congressional Select Committee, would have a far more difficult time stonewalling a grand jury. Also, as noted, the decision to indict would be deferred to a later date, pending what the investigation produced. Last, I would note that criminal investigation tends to focus the mind. And the mind of the country needs to be focused on this, because however important other things are, we nearly are running out the clock on democracy.
...and let's not forget Garland successfully prosecuted Timothy Mc Veigh and his partner. Terry Nichols for bombing the Murragh Federal Building in Oklahoma City.
It would seem that locking up Trump is something that America is not really organized to do in a timely manner that prevents him from continuing his campaign to dismember American Democracy.
However, we do have Angola prison, that former slave plantation, down in Alabama, where, I think it is still legal to use prisoners to pick cotton.
Angola to make sure that if a black man steals a loaf of bread from the 7-11 to feed his starving family, because there are no jobs for black folks, he gets properly and promptly locked up to pick cotton in the summer.
Exactly. Us Democrats have repeatedly suffered ourselves with apparent stupidity. Face it, we were daily the subject of ridicule during the impeachment debates. Gym Jordan, Slut-Gaetz, Schuck Grassley, and a few others repeatedly made us seem inept at what we were trying to proceed with. I will take exception to Ms Val Demmings, whose salty tongue and dignified appearance hit Gym square in the nutz.., on several occasions. She's presidential material! We let Comey and the FBI drive us apeshit. And, we are letting Man-chin and Sin-enama ramble around on the news-screens..., for what? We are weak. And we look weak. This doesn't mean we need to engage in any shouting matches... uh uhh! The moRons would love that. It remains one of their favorite tools, yet we have stayed clear of it. We do need to recognize what we are doing as a tactic. I'm going to hope.., and watch.., and listen intently. One can only hope that we have people in charge who have clearly learned from past mealy-mouthed exhibitions. President Biden, has sat thru dozens of security briefings. We need to exhibit support.. not doubt. But it is entirely good to air our concerns here. Who knows who is listening on our side. Finally, I once saw this painting of the wall of the 4485th Test Squadron briefing room. It was a menacing gorilla holding a hand of cards. The caption below read: "This ain't no puss game".....
Barbara, all of this hullabaloo was started by one person who was AG Merrick Garland's law professor 45 years ago. Currently Garland is overseeing top secret investigations, and knows how incredibly important it is to not show his hand. I taught hundreds of students at the University of Michigan for 20 years and would never presume to know the inner workings of their jobs today. And I remain close (and loyal) to many of them. Lucian Truscott IV wrote on his Substack site today: "I think Garland and the DOJ are way ahead of where we think they are. I think their effectiveness can be measured at least in part by the fact they do not leak. Everyone should put their slippers on and sit back and wait for the show to start."
We have a nation of worn out, frustrated people on our hands. It goes against our grain as good hearted, law abiding people to see someone seemingly getting away with such obvious crimes. I am right there with you Michael. But where we differ is I am holding my tongue. My feeling is we must present a united front at this critical time. I asked a lawyer why the delay with DOJ. They guessed that maybe the DOJ is making sure they have a perfectly tight case because this Country will explode if people start getting locked up.
I think this DOJ has been extremely close attention to leaks of the past and is playing it very close to the chest. They’ve organized a trustworthy group who is more interested in their roles as attorneys than getting a leak in the press or a sound bite on Fox. It happened with Mueller and 2 times with Durham. We see how those two false statements caused Republicans and MAGAts to claim it’s all Hillary’s fault. Heather is correct when she exclaimed “But her emails”. Those screaming it have done much worse and gotten away with it so far.
I sincerely hope it is. We are drawing nearer and nearer to the midterms. The Republicans are planning on winning and they are planning on everything from executions (from trump's mouth) to jailing the January 6 Committee (Jordon) to impeaching Biden and Harris (MTG).
In other words we standing on the tracks and a train is barreling down on us. No wonder we are a mess as a Country.
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Our concerns are justified. Their outburst should come as no surprise. And we need to have a response tailored for that moment. The world will be listening, so it darn well better not be some limpy sounding line expressing happiness.
If we’re worn out, how do Indigenous and wage slaves feel? So many rotten things have been going on since before our so-called independence in this country that it beggars the mind. Let’s hold on a little bit longer and pray that the arc of justice moves on.
You might wish to review the consequence of the Mueller report's lack of political "punch" lacking a conviction which embolden tRump to even greater blatant crimes.
General Garland has NOT forgotten that disaster.
You can rest assured that when tRump is indicted he will be adjudicated guilty and incarcerated in prison long enough to become a death sentence!!
Pray that General Garland continues to be blessed by GOD's freely given grace's wisdom and fortitude against all of the impatient naysayers!
This case is far from “open and shut”. I doubt Trump can be prosecuted for having classified material at Mar A Lago. Here’s the explanation from WaPo, “Even with documents marked classified found where they don’t belong, prosecutors have a high legal bar to get to criminal charges. Prosecutors would have to prove someone intentionally mishandled the material or was grossly negligent in doing so — which can be a steep hurdle in its own right. And Trump, as president, would have had unfettered latitude to declassify material, potentially raising even bigger challenges to bringing a case against him.”
Trump is incredibly slippery. It will be exceedingly difficult for Garland to successfully prosecute him.
He took boxes with him. He was supposed to leave it for Archives. No tearing up documents, either, nor flushing. The taped together ones are evidence, aren’t they? Let’s see if he tries to blame the Deep State or Antifa.
But does Trump have power to declassify them after his presidency has concluded? It is not likely the case that he had the foresight to do that at the time. He was clearly in a rush to leave the White House when he did, because, until the last, he thought he would still remain President. I don’t think the gross negligence will be such a difficult thing to prove. He had been warned about record keeping by NARA in the past. What am I missing?
Welp, looks to me like we are running pretty hard on "conjecture", much as we all would like to personally "slam dunk" this despicable POS. Cold, hard facts or a lynch mob from Natchez(?), are needed.
Does anyone remember multiple news reports of 45 having meetings in the dining areas of Mar-a-Lago with other diners and servers around. People from all kinds of countries, discussing national security in a restaurant. That didn't seem to cause any big waves. Of course, with him in charge if anyone filed a complaint or said their was a problem, they were immediately fired. Thus the problem vanishes.
Agree. Trouble is, as I see it.., all numbnutz needs to say is that he would never do such a thing and whatever he was seen waving was not what you might have thought it was...,xxxxx..Not guilty. Next.
Trumpism has become bigger than Trump. He has certainly worked hard to gin it up. I fear that even though he may ultimately be held accountable for his many crimes, that just removes Trump from the political scene. It does not address someone who might be waiting in the wings to take his place.
I follow Glenn Kirschner on YouTube. Former prosecutor for DC. He said the DOJ has no timeline, follows every case through gathering evidence… they will not bring a case that they can’t win. So… I’m certain they’re building a case. I’m sure they must be stymied by whether or not they can win … however, it seems the destroyed and stolen top secret, confidential federal documents case could be a slam dunk … perhaps there’s a team of prosecutors spending their weekend preparing arguments for just such a case. 🤞🏼
I might have been too hasty when I said the case appears to be a slam dunk, as it would be for anyone other than an ex-president. Still, the FBI has the skills and resources to discover how the stolen classified documents had been used (abused?) at Mar-a-Lago.
We, however must be the ones supporting him with every resource possible, while we await the results of his exhaustive efforts to protect America's Democracy.
I hope that you are not becoming discouraged about a legal process that may be compromised in any fashion thereby resulting a failure to convincingly convict trump and ALL of his minions.
I pray hopefully that you will vote to remove ALL R's from office and do all you can to help others understand the critical importance of voting out R's this November.
I respect your respect for Merrick Garland who matriculated through the very top of America's very elite organizations.
However, George, I am more familiar with the world OUTSIDE of those organizations and I am here to tell you, taking too much time with Trump is deadly.
It's possible that trump shared classified information with his buddy, Putin, and that information may have been a factor in Putin's build-up of forces along the Ukraine border.
Alexander Yuk Ching Ma, 67, a former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer, was arrested on Aug. 14, 2020, on a charge that he conspired with a relative of his who also was a former CIA officer to communicate classified information
Donald J. Trump, found to have stolen many classified documents known to compromise national security (presumbably all documents given to Putin). Currently serving 10 years to life at Mara Lago resort and golf club. Steak and Ale for breakfast.
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It would seem that locking up Trump is something that America is not really organized to do.
However, we do have Angola prison, that former slave plantation, down in Alabama, where, I think it is still legal to use prisoners to pick cotton.
Angola to make sure that if a black man steals a loaf of bread from the 7-11 to feed his starving family, because there are no jobs for black folks, he gets properly, and promptly, locked up to pick cotton in the summer.
My husband used to do background investigations for security clearances. If he had found out about something like this, the person who took nationally classified documents home would have been "red flagged" and never given a clearance. (Unless, of course, his name was Trump or Kushner).
That was the argument in 2016 against HRC. In hindsight, the documents collected back then did not impact national security; I wonder how toxic the Mar-A-Lago hoard is to the USA.
NARA is responsible for the preservation *and access* of records. As with other agencies which interface directly with the public - IRS, USPS, Social Security - Republicans have hobbled Archives services to frustrate the public with government and to get us to push for privatization.
Of course, with the Trump administration, Republicans have had an additional incentive to actively prevent access. For several years Freedom of Information Act requests have been backed up. Now that Trump's presidential papers irregularities have metastasized to possible criminal cases, the situation created by Trump and his Republican co conspirators is taking a disproportionate percentage of limited resources. This does not only obstruct research and reporting - ie government transparency.
Recently Rep. Jared Golden (D, Maine CD2) a combat veteran of our conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, who now serves on the Veterans Affairs Committee, wrote to NARA about the plight of veterans, who because they cannot access their records, which can only be accessed through NARA, they cannot receive their essential and emergency benefits.
The harm Trump and the Republicans do ripples out across the nation. Much of it irreparable for many of us.
Lin, I can also attest that nothing at the VA can move for a vet without access to records, from several heartbreaking experiences of fellow veterans. Even with the problems both I and my wife had, they were nothing compared with the experiences of others. While Jabba bragged about what he was doing for the vets and the money he was sending to the VA, it’s services began a significant decline soon after he took office. Part of that was cronies without any experience who were gradually replacing the professionals installed by the Bush and Obama administrations, part of it was Jabba’s obsessive rolling back the VA advances to care and benefits of President Obama, and then part of it was pure Covid 19. Example: The VA had no PPE stockpiles. Remember the South Korean government flying a plane with 50,000 masks to the VA “In honor of the American soldiers who served and died for our country.” The VA was the only major hospital system in the country to all but completely shut down its services. I can’t explain why, nor has anyone given me a reason that makes sense. I could go on, but you get the point. I still get all of my medical services at non-VA providers and hospitals, and they have to rely on me to provide what medical records I have or can remember, which hampers their ability to make good medical decisions in some cases. Other vets are doing the same thing, and we may never go back. It’s a shame, because the VA gave me decent care in the past, and saved my life twice.
Lin, in fairness I give a shout out to my local VA clinic, best care I have ever had. They have struggled to reopen, subject to Administration controls, but most services and departments still closed. President Obama really did make a huge difference in our care and benefits as well (he put a major push on to fast-track records!), only to see the VA partly lose it’s way after he left office....
I use both VA and civilian resources because my records are so dispersed and generally unavailable. My medical care is cobbled from luck and accident. My DDForm214 alone probably saved my life because several critical records “vanished.”
My husband is a Vietnam Vet. He has only used the VA for therapy and meds from a psychiatrist and a therapist. Because of new compensable medical issues that they are discovering, he is now getting a blood draw from them…first time ever…after 53 years!
Here is a man who truly loves you both, (Just as every American should!), for your patriotic sacrifices and brave service as one of America's U. S. Military Heroes.
George, I am REALLY grateful for that Link, thank you! Jon Stewart is anything but skin-deep. A solid human being.
I was a 'burner' while waiting for my combat assignment at Long Binh, and then again after transfer from my combat tour, to the 12th Evac MASH at 25th Div. base in Cu Chi, I was briefly sentenced to burning again as I 'adjusted' to base dress code and protocol.
Every 'shi##er' on base had cut-down 55 gallon drums for depositing human waste. Behind each latrine was 5 gallon diesel fuel cans and a paddle or stick. After sliding out the unoccupied drums you poured the fuel into each one, tossed in something on fire, and picked up the stick, pipe, or paddle and stirred the cauldrons--producing thick, fetid, oily black smoke. It took hours of stirring, because the diesel did not mix with the urine and feces by itself. The smoke was inescapable, and you burned until all that was left was a thin lumpy tar product. Then you cooled the drums, slid them back into the latrine, and brought out the remaining drums, repeat. Like, standing there under the hot tropical sun, you say, "I'm just not warm enough--I need to burn me some sh#t!" Wonderful fragrance on your fatigues, nose hairs and lungs, but it beat combat! And I was lucky--it was temporary duty, and I came home ALIVE. With a bunch of medals and certain smells that my nose will never forget....
All of us here love you, respect you, and are so very grateful for the sacrifices you endured in service to America.
You, and all returning military service men/women are our heroes!
We owe all of you more than we can ever repay, but we all hope to be able to honor you by helping make your living life much more comfortable, peaceful and full of joy.
Ohhhh Gus…my heart goes out to you. I had been with my husband for over 20 years-before I learned about his experiences in Nam (68-69). The only reason was that he suffered a breakdown, out of the blue. He applied for PTSD benefits but writing three incidences that he
was involved in while in combat. It was there I learned the horrors he lived through. I burst into tears. He was referred to a psychiatrist who had been denying every veteran their right to compensation and help. Before he saw him, we learned the VA told him he had to stop that “practice”. My husband should've been given a 75% or a 100% as it affected his job but no, he was given 50%. That was over 30 years ago and he never has been reevaluated because he despises the VA and the government. I hope you are taking care of yourself, Gus.
Oh Gus. I pray that somehow President Biden’s administration will restore the care that President Obama’s administration gave to strengthening and streamlining procedural structures within the VA.
I too get almost all of my medical care here in GA at the VA. The Atlanta VA did indeed shut down as soon as the virus started, but so did the assisted living facility my father was in, and maybe that was part of the reason the hospital shut down, they have a lot of end of life veterans on the upper floors. They have been reopening but like you say, it’s not the same as before. The insipid clown did as much as he could do destroy the federal government, including the PO and the VA. I have found the people there almost universally to be caring and considerate especially now after 2 years of this goddamn virus 🦠. I still prefer to get my care there, and I have excellent private insurance, because I like being with my brothers-in-arms, we still get each other’s backs and I find that comforting. The individual clinics, hematology, hearing, eye care, dental, mental health etc. are as good as you can find and if they can’t help you they will refer you outside of the VA to specialists who can. I know they have been hampered on purpose, but they are swimming against that current heroically from what I have witnessed.
Can’t “heart” this, Dick but I have noticed since my husband put in a claim for hypothyroidism recently, that the VA has been over-responsive. This is a welcomed sight, in my opinion. In fact, here in No. California, the people who have examined him have been female and are very patient with an impatient man. I am happy to hear your (and others) experiences have been so good.
Dick, thanks for your service, Trooper! My wife and I were both receiving care at the Atlanta VA, for over 25 years, and no substantive complaints besides understandable beaurocratic hiccups and the occasional bad apple. Amazing what they did with all they were faced with, if you could find a parking spot....and they improved that over the years. My wife was there for months at a time, and I had many surgeries including open heart, and an agent orange tumor ablation. Got to know the place really well, and see improvements up close. President Obama's Veterans Choice program has now become Community Care in spite of republican efforts to kill it when they could no longer personally enrich themselves.
I agree with everything you wrote, and we chose the VA for the same reasons. I have every hope that President Biden will repair the damage and do good things for us, but I am getting to the point in life when I will have to choose one or the other, and I just may not be able to wait for the VA to recover itself. Thanks again!
Lin, I’m not sure what the source of your information regarding the VA is, but there is misinformation in it. Medical facilities (VA and non) no longer “stockpile” supplies. It was found to be wasteful as many items were thrown away because they expired before they could be used. People tend to paint the whole VA with a broad brush, when there is an error or problem at on facility there is an assumption it occurs in ALL facilities. With that being said, many/moats VAs slowed or cancelled services at various times throughout the pandemic, but there has never been a threat of them closing down. The services were limited to conserve supplies - because of the global healthcare supply shortages (masks, gloves, sterile gowns, etc.) due to manufacturing limitations. To be clear, the VA and military healthcare facilities will be able to get supplies long before non-VA healthcare settings because of the purchasing power of Uncle Sam. The VA, like every other business, has bad employees (doctors, nurses, administrators), but the vast majority of its employees are there because they want to serve Veterans. Direct care providers are verbally and physically abused by Veterans and their families, yet they continue to come to work and greet the Veterans with respect. Every complaint I’ve heard about care and administrative faux pas at the VA happens in non-VA settings as well, you just don’t hear about them. Are there things they can do better? Yes! But given the antiquated electronic medical system it is working with and the BILLIONS of dollars it costs to upgrade the entire (national) VA computer system - it does a damn good job. As you can tell, I’m a VA employee, a Veteran and a nurse - and I’m damn tired of the VA bashing and misinformation. *rant over*
I was an Air Force nurse. The VA operates just like any other hospital system where there are good locations and bad. The administrator at each location is vital. The biggest problem our VA system has is they get the short shrift from political appointees who can do massive damage. TFG despises our military men and women who put their life on the line for this country and would deny them medical care because they’re “suckers and losers”. I think he wanted to privatize VA healthcare to make a profit just like everything else. Already Vietnam veterans have suffered terribly with mental health issues and many are still living on the streets today. I don’t see this trend changing unless someone strong gets in there and fixes the separation process to help everyone leaving military life transition to civilian life.
I have to jump in here. I'm a Vet on disability (60%) and receive all my healthcare from my local VA. As Gus noted, their care has saved my life twice. I have nothing but good things to say about the professionalism and compassion shown me over the past ten years with VA.
Yes, the paperwork drill can be exasperating at times. But one of the other non-combat skills I learned in the Army was how to do battle with a Bureaucracy. It's amazing what a phone call from a Rep or Senator on an Armed Services Committee can do. Know your enemy, have a plan and a back up plan.
Glad to hear you learned how to deal with the bureaucracy. There needs to be an office dedicated to dealing with the transition from military to civilian life.
TO, ThankYou for your work. Being a government employee can be tough. You are a trifecta of public service on many frontlines. ThankYou! Your experience and perspective are really important and welcome. Please do not feel that your contribution is 'a rant.'
I think you are replying to Gus' comment and I think he provided some clarification in another of his comments.
It is complicated. Both the science and the logistics and both are complicated by politics. And now the pandemic.
ThankYou, as always, Gus. I look forward to your comments.
Yes, for decades, my mother worked for a very prominent physician and somewhat greedy man, and another who had been a bombardier and was a socialist, both of whom every week volunteered their services at VA facilities.
It is not only veterans who suffer depletion of services. Military in combat zones and stateside suffer as well. Trump stole money for his wall - from funds allocated by Congress to improve dilapidated military housing.
Republicans give those who serve lip service. But for decades it has been useful to them to have a population of angry men with tactical training and armed to the teeth - not caring about suicide and self harm. Let alone 1/6.
And often the other way round. The mindset of many police officers fits right in. There is considerable overlap, and it is not "invading" that is causing that overlap. It goes in both directions.
Hard to heart this, they were a destruction derby from before day one. Your last sentence is the bookend for Bannon’s boast about destroying the administrative state. They chose heads to destroy departments, not lead them, as was done to the USPS in 2006. Like W, chump pretended that he had a mandate and bulldozed as much of the government as he could. Why is this not a clear and concise message from Dems…
"Why is this not a clear and concise message from Dems…"
Please let me know what you mean by this?
Since Reagan openly declared 'government is the enemy' and Norquist spoke of 'shrinking government so small that you can flush it down the drain' Republicans have set to work dismantling FDR's New Deal, LBJ's Great Society, and even programs that Nixon signed into law such as the EPA and Head Start. Of course McConnell stuffed the ACA so full of poison pills they expected it to strangle at birth and when it didn't Republicans dedicated themselves to repealing it in Congress and dismembering it in the courts. Also since Reagan, Republicans have underfunded and understaffed programs and agencies. Trump was the first to endanger all of government and all of us by assembling a Cabinet and larding the Executive branch with not only incompetent and unqualified people but ideologues opposed to government in general and the missions of the agencies they were planted in.
Democrats talk about this all the time. In office, on the campaign trail, to the press . . . not sure what more you are asking for. But please let me say, it is a rhetorical trope on the Left to note the sins of the GOP, and then blame the Democrats. And just the way your comment is structured brought that to mind.
That said. It is easier to message a lie clearly and concisely, than to unpack the facts of the case and analyze them. It is easier to destroy something than to fix it.
For instance. Look at pandemic policy. It is easier to say 'the virus was created and spread by China' than to trace its origins, the mechanisms of viral spread, and its trajectory. It is easier to say 'mandates take away your freedoms' than to keep revising policy to reflect changes in the virus and in scientific knowledge.
Democrat messages need to be simplified for the dumbed down/headline reading only/think they know it alls who like to argue. Hillary’s emails, Benghazi and now freedom were constantly repeated. After President Biden said so brilliantly “pay your fair share” three times in a speech, I never saw or heard it again. And it relates to so many repubs right up (or down) to idjt45.
Yes. Make America Great vs ... Love Trumps Hate? Most stupid campaign slogan ever. Love Trump, Love Trump ... argh.
Gingrich whipped GOP rhetoric into shape. I think he sent out 'word/phrase of day' cheat sheets to keep them lockstep on message. You can hear it any day of CSpan.
It is so essential to have people like you in red states. Not easy for you, but really important for all of us. ThankYou for finding the strength and fortitude.
From my experience, Golden is as threatened by Left wing ignorance, intransigence, and self indulgence as he is by Right wing rage and propaganda.
In collecting signatures to get Golden on the 2022 ballot, I have already had Indivisible 'activists' (who never show up to Get Out The Vote) saying 'we might as well have the Republican, there is no difference between the parties.' This is a lie of those who oppose parties in general and have a fratricidal/suicidal hatred of the Democratic party in specific.
I am in a blue dot, in a little purple circle, in a vast red wasteland and am already volunteering with the Hancock County Democratic Committee and the Golden campaign.
I am Left of my landsman (Brooklyn homeboy) Bernie Sanders and of anyone you care to name on the Progressive Caucus. But I have campaigned for Golden from the start - some of his big votes frustrate and anger me so I always go back to his full record which is overall good on environmental, labor, civil rights issues which you don't hear of in the press much and which many on the Left do not bother to research or want to know about.
Thank you lin...I feel the same way. Some of Golden's votes and positions are frustrating, but I have never questioned his character, honesty and desire to truly serve the best interests of ALL of his constituents in the 2nd CD. Indivisible seems only to look at the end of their nose....Jared is light-years beyond and above Poliquin and I'd never vote for any Republican in a contest with Golden. I campaigned for Bernie...I was a state level Bernie delegate and one of the twelve Dems in my town. (We joke that our caucus could have been held in a small shed)....but we do what we can, where we can!
Yes. And as a party..we better realize we have become little more than a lost ball in the weeds. Complacency brought us here. Now we are suffering because many Democrats, (and hard working Republicans!) failing to see any action taken by our politicians (Presidents included!!!) to address the simplest of tailgate crap, jumped aboard the B757 hauling the owner who promised to 'take care of it'. Yup.., ticked-off voters from everywhere jumped on the maga-expess. We Democrats, fumbling around with red-flag words like "socialism" just pee'd in our sneakers. Presently, we need to get behind every Democrat running for Governor, Senator, and Representative, plus those already there, Like Rep Golden. Wake up! "This aint no puss game" people.
AGREE 100%. Poliquin is an obsequious worm. Did you see the news of him "marching" to the state Capitol a day or so ago, in company with that other loathsome egomaniac, LePage. Poliquin did a terrible job of representing the 2nd District. He only wishes to represent himself to garner as much wealth and influence as he possibly can.
Yes, we caught that on the news. I am so disgusted that Lepage is back. Was not at all surprised to see Poliquin tagging along to suck up to him and grab that indecent exposure.
Concur! He was fortunate to see the light of day, too many did not. Still, others are 'making do' sans arms, legs, eyes. Now, Rep Golden, is on another battlefield where rules of engagement are just as fuzzy & blurred, and T-snipers abound.
Golden was not drafted into the military. After 9/11 he left college and chose to enlist in the Marines, where he was likely to be sent into combat. He has spoken openly about PTSD.
In general, I try to avoid military metaphors for other struggles. When I try to do that, I really see how overwhelmingly prevalent and almost unavoidable they are. I fear it not only reflects our mind set but bends it to combat rather than cooperation. Eventually you have to come to the bargaining table, best not have too many bodies to climb over. Actual or metaphorical.
Representative Jared Golden has worked hard for Maine-while I haven't always agreed with his positions as a Centrist Dem, I do respect his character, honesty and integrity. That is something I CAN'T say about Mr. Bruce Poliquin, the "conservative" slimewad who is looking to be his opponent. Poliquin is the former Representative for the 2nd District, who was so evasive about answering questions that he hid in a women's lavatory rather than face the media. He was seen marching to the state Capitol a few days ago in the company of another loathsome reject of Maine politics, Paul LePage who wants another term as Governor, since he evidently hadn't considered his mission of decimating state government to be complete enough in his first two terms (won by a lucky plurality, both times). Grrr.
Bathroom Bruce and TeaParty LePage. They're Back. Tanned, ready, and rabid.
Some left wing 'person not party' damage can be mitigated by RCV for Golden. But as some wording in the Maine constitution blocks ranked choice for the gubernatorial race, the Elliot Cutler cultists could hand LePage a win, again.
I can verify Rep. Golden's statement about veterans not receiving their military records for needed causes.
I filed for a copy of my military records on Nov. 22, 2021. A couple of days later, I checked online, and they acknowledged receipt of my request, and the next step would be processing my request. I've checked back every week or two since then, and my request has not moved forward one bit. I checked again five minutes ago and still no movement on my case.
Four compelling stories to digest, Heather! Thank you for picking up on the most authentic points in all your communications.
A note of thanks to Judge Mehta as well for his ruling on tfg's role in the insurrection and his meticulous reading of all the evidence.
Such a great deal to be proud of tonight: a presidential president, a most effective and efficient US intelligence service, and while "[w]e do not know where the next several days will lead, of course, but it is notable that the solidarity of the countries allied against authoritarianism, strengthened by U.S. diplomacy, is holding strong."
Of all the important stories coming at us, one is of searing personal interest to me. My husband, Mark, was born in Odessa, Ukraine. It is a seaport in the south-west of the country, on the shore of the Black Sea. Mark was less than a year old when his family left Ukraine to come to the USA. It was a long journey without any guaranty that the family would be able immigrate here. Now we wait as more than 44 million Ukrainians prepare for war.
Those people are not simply a mass of strangers in a far away land. They have been building a democracy after living for many, many years under one tyranny after another. We can begin to know Ukraine as we anticipate what its people will be going through.
The first link opens with a mother and son in the USA visiting the homeland.
'Ukraine is more than a sphere of influence. Our staff writer Franklin Foer, whose family has roots in the country, has found himself “swept up in the nation’s struggle to free itself of corruption, authoritarianism, and its dark past.” He offers a plea to remember the people who live there.' (AtlanticMagazine)
The second link takes you to Donbas, a historical, cultural, and economic region in south-eastern Ukraine,[5][6] some of whose territory is occupied by two unrecognized separatist states. This is a digital presentation by the Washington Post, which I hope you'll all be able to see.
The next two links provide understanding of the conflicts that have been part of Ukraine;s history. When you hear news of the country, you will be able to have some sense of what is at stake for them and for us.
Thank you Fern for the excellent links and also the reminder that this war or conflict is not only between leaders. Innocent people are always the victims, for some reason called “collateral damage.” And you have first hand knowledge about Ukraine with your family experience. My grandparents escaped Kiev in 1909. And other relatives came later in the 1980s. Some stayed and were victims of the Chernobyl nuclear power disaster. It is hard for Americans in this generation to understand what it means to live with wars and dictators in real time. Yet all we have to do is watch world news. It’s not so far away if a tyrant or autocrat takes over and is not stopped. Held accountable.
Irenie, my family story is somewhat similar to yours. You are correct that some “Americans in this generation” have a tough time grasping onto these thoughts. I think what they do know about is about domestic terrorism given all of the high school shootings and now, the insurrection. They know that America is in a fight with herself.
Thanks, Roland, for continuing to shine a light on Greg Olear’s work. I discovered him a while back because you recommended his writing. I’ve learned a great deal about many things from him!
Roland, gratitude for this! I have been educated more (about my heritage and current events) reading Greg Olear than anything before. In searching for more specific DNA, Eastern Europe is the answer. So broad and definitely not specific. On a 1909 Ship Manifest, my family country of origin is Kiev, Russia. But Kiev is the origin. And Lithuania is on the other side of family history. Even today, because of our (my) ignorance of geography and history of that region Ukraine might be considered a minor country. History is blurred and this is the way Russia (Putin) wants to keep it. Is it possible or obvious that tfg and his cronies know more Hi$tory than the average American? Back to school, USA.
Wow...that was a wonderfully informative article---many thanks to the commenters here, who have turned me on to so many writers to whom I can subscribe to get the best picture possible of a wider world than that provided by the corporate controlled mainstream media!!!
Yes! Greg Olear is EXCELLENT! His in-depth analysis of current events is intelligently written. He also writes about music and literary interests. A great variety of interesting and timely information. I also happily subscribe to his Substack.
Fern, the facebook site, "View from my Window" with wonderful submissions of pictures from folks all over the world, has been filled in the past few weeks with photos and stories from citizens in Ukraine! Beautiful, civilized, peaceful views of cities, homes, gardens and countryside. And wishes that their country will remain so. The thousands and thousands of responses in support of these Ukranians are incredibly heartfelt and supportive. Prayers, hugs, thoughts, energy, hope - from every corner of our globe! I repost as many as I can. We are The World.
Thank you MaryPat. I haven't been on Meta(Facebook) for many years. Social Media and Fox are the primary sources of disinformation/conspiracy theories and misinformation. They are toxic forces, which need to be properly regulated. HCR's history lectures and sites, such as the one you described, offer worthwhile perspectives, but until the never-ending social pollution of social media and Fox is cleaned up, I'm a no show.
I can readily understand your stance about FB, Fern. I limit the time I spend there. FB is not meta anything, meta-universe is a flim-flam name borrowed from physics, where it has been for a good long time as a valid concept in physics theory. But I value the ability to stay in touch with people I know and care about while keeping my inbox manageable. (And I enjoy exchanging photos!) Plus there are some interest groups which are valuable to me in what I do, though most of that is done by other means nowadays. One advantage of sticking around in the peripatetic way I do is that periodically I can give FB a piece of my mind publicly. Which is fun.
Absolutely delightful, MaryPat. I have friends in various places with whom I exchange garden and yard photos, but this takes it to a whole new level! Such a pleasure. And of course I joined. Thank you for the gift.
Thank you for this share. It reminds us of how so many friends and family risked/risk everything to come to a country where the Mother of Exiles lifts her lamp.
Poignant, important, real. Thank you Fern. I have felt my heart and spirit so linked with the people of Ukraine. It’s like I’m almost willing the entire free world to link in our human spirits with them as they stand strong in their sovereign rights and resist authoritarianism.
Fern, your sharing of your husband's story brings home to us the reality that we are all connected in some way, either directly or indirectly. I met a young attorney from Kyev three years ago on vacation (when we were still able to do that), and learned from her more about that country and its people than ever before. Ukraine is no longer "some little country over there near Russia " and isolation is no longer a moral option.
Fern, after I read every link you posted, it, of course, takes time to scroll through all of the comments before I get to yours. The first post, from The Atlantic, was where my heart started beating a mile a minute. This was my father’s story. He was born and raised in Boryslav Poland. This village was pilfered through by the Bolsheviks, the Nazis, the Polish and Russian armies. His relatives died either in the fields or in the camps. This village, very similar to the one in “Fiddler On The Roof”, was rich in agriculture and oil. His grandfather, who raised him, owned land that had both. It was stolen out from under him and my father’s family like a in two seconds. The village is now part of the Ukrainian area where everybody speaks each other’s languages. My father was only taught Yiddish, growing up, but his grandfather saw the writing on the wall and enrolled my dad in a Catholic school. All of the Jewish boys had to stand up throughout the classes. He was humiliated but he learned Polish and a big of Russian. When he was able to come to America in 1938, he tried going through the American embassy to help him regain ownership of the land. Never was it to occur. He knew in his lifetime that he would not achieve that goal but thought maybe in our (my sister’s & mine) we just might. That is unlikely but I will give my girls this task as they are willing to pursue it. All I can say is that the article was extremely emotional for me. The writer had been to the area and even accompanied his mother. I have not had the opportunity to go there. Now I am wondering if I ever will get to. As always, Fern, thank you!
Marlene, your story is amazing, a book. You have the history which must be passed down, never forgotten. It is the story that is part of many, yet we don’t have access to every chapter. Thank you for making history as relevant today as the day it began.
Thank you, Irenie. Yes, I think we all have stories to tell. One of my daughters wants to do a documentary about my husband as he had a very tough childhood and then went to Vietnam. I guess I am really going to have to find the time to write what my folks experienced and how it affected them and my sister and I throughout the years. You also, have an interesting background.
Marlene, my heart goes out to you and to your father. The truth of your parents' lives lives on through you and through your heirs. It should not be forgotten -- it's so important to keep it alive ... to remember what was, what has been, and what will be in your lives.Yet the present and the future count, too; they complete the history that your father wanted for you and your siblings.
Thank you, Rowshan. My dad, a very self-learned man who worked very hard at a job he never enjoyed, but he was his own boss. He owned a clothing store along with my mother for over 25 years. He started writing his story down for my sister and I but unfortunately, dementia set in and many memories were lost. I try and keep whatever I know alive. We have our 2nd cousin, who is still alive, in his mid 80’s, who I really need to get information from. I haven’t spiken to him in years so I am praying he is still lucid.
Marlene, I cried as your story unfolded. Our memories are alive as is the smell and feel of unrelenting tyranny. It falls upon us, the people held in the cauldron of dictators.
Mine is just one of many stories, Fern. I think of all the tyranny in our country that man has progressively caused. The treatment of black folks, Asians, Mexicans, Jews, women, and add gun violence. it’s maddening that it is still going on!! You are right though, there is a definitely a cauldron of dictators and many are are waiting in the wings. All set up by Leonard Leo and Company. I envision him and orhers sitting on their thrones somewhere, pulling levers and cackling like a gaggle of hens. Makes me shiver.
I’m terrified for the Ukrainian people. I haven’t been there but I met a beautiful Ukrainian woman on my last trip to Provence in February 2020. Luckily she had relocated to Forcalquier but I asked about her family and they are still there.
Liz, Your care is important. These people have suffered for centuries. They will need our help. When the time comes, please call your senators and representatives to let them know that we want to support the Ukrainian people. Thank you.
Wow! Thanks for helping us get closer to the people of Ukraine. I have not gone through all of the links, but, looking out at the weather, I might get through them today.
Thinking of all Ukrainians and how worried they must be! Thank you, dear Fern, for your husband's story and the important links. Now I understand why your heart is so profoundly compassionate.
trump should go to prison first of all for his mishandling and theft of classified materials from the white house to mar-a-lago. If he gets away with that with a slap on the wrist, it's a massive insult to the many thousands of military and civilian employees who have handled top secret material so responsibly.
Many years ago, I was in the Army and worked with classified material. All the men and women in my unit had top secret clearances with crypto access. I was told by an NCO that speaking ONE word about what we did could land us in prison for 20 years; and that's Ft. Leavenworth not some Club Fed. And that non-disclosure agreement lasted for 20 years after we left service. And trump took boxes of classified material home to mar-a-lago.
I'll bet trump was selling classified material to foreign governments or certainly some type of quid pro quo. Also, Jared Kushner was granted ultimate security clearance when he lied on the application form, and some 35+ security advisors and lawyers advised trump not to give that clearance. If we don't straighten this whole thing out, we're in even worse trouble than imagined.
Remember Mike Pence at the UN: "I have the honour to represent the President of the United States, Donald J Trump", and he waited for the applause. There was total silence.
I know. He just installed his favored family members. We're supposed to have a government composed with "checks and balances." But with trump, we rarely saw "checks" or "balances." Most of congress seemed afraid of him. He ruled and still does according to some corrupt reps. and senators.
I remember being shocked. Family members and later friends with zero experience in the positions they were assigned. Yes, Heydon, Seriously! No checks. No balances. But it was just one more example of his pre- presidential corrupt life. Not even hiding. The post office turned into a hotel for dignitaries? Emoluments? What’s that mean? And no consequences for breaking the law. Yet.
He is insidious. I want to see a full accounting of his every business deal in the trump years. And then getting his father a full pardon through trump on top of it all.
That's it. His crew were searching full-time for endless ways to profit from the presidential power. Yes, it was done deliberately and in plain sight. We watched the visible part of it, but I'm sure they got away with so much more.
It occurred to me too that tfg, the man without either morals or conscience, could be profiting from the material he stole. He clearly has no allegiance to the US.
" If he gets away with that with a slap on the wrist, it's a massive insult to the many thousands of military and civilian employees who have handled top secret material so responsibly."
Let us see if he even gets a "slap on the wrist". I do have my doubts.
Heydon, I feel it exposes the entire American culture and racial heirarchy for what it really is: A system setup to enable mediocre white men to become fantastically sucessful while holding down everyone else of talent.
Unfortunately I didn’t even know Biden was giving a speech today and I imagine many other Americans were u aware of this as well. One of the unfortunate consequences of the proliferation of media we have available is that we become siloed. When I was a child we have a choice of five or six TV stations and when the President have an important address, all programs were preempted. That’s no longer the case and unless one is listening or watching live media we might not know about events of importance.
Fewer and fewer independent media exist...and the rest are owned by conservatives. And even farther to the right, the misnamed Fox "News" bears heavy responsibility for the distorted negative view "the base" has of the United States and, conversely, the worshipful view it has of the former president. In the last few days, my FB feed has been filled with ads for "Let's Go, Brandon" apparel and glowing statements about the former president. I hope many are bots but I doubt all are.
Thank you for this amazing recap. Yes, a lot has been happening in the last few weeks. Trying to maintain perspective on it all. I hadn’t thought about the fact, till you noted here, that perhaps President Biden was speaking again from the US as the leader of the free world -that would be a welcome return of international standing.
A chance to exhale after holding our breath. Thank you for solidarity everywhere against authoritarianism…. Including this forum with Professor Richardson. To even have a chuckle in a serious letter chock full of stories with a common thread. When she paused and added a little salt common to historians when records become inaccessible or willfully altered in some way or destroyed. I quote, “But her emails.”
Oh, the caterwauling about possible national security breach with private server and her emails, and mere months in office brings Lavrov and Kislyak INTO the Oval Office ALONE with trump, using his own PRIVATE unsecured cell phone. Not to mention trying to set up BACK CHANNEL comms to Russia in basement of trump tower during campaign! The hypocrisy party makes my hair hurt.
It seems to me a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago and all electronic devices owned by Trump, his family, and staff, including copy machines, is justified and should be carried out immediately. We should assume that copies of the material in question now reside in a secure file cabinet in the Kremlin.
And Donald J. Trump should be under arrest for violation of espionage laws.
All together now; “Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!”
It would seem that locking up Trump is something that America is not really organized to do.
However, we do have Angola prison, that former slave plantation, down in Alabama, where, I think it is still legal to use prisoners to pick cotton.
Angola to make sure that if a black man steals a loaf of bread from the 7-11 to feed his starving family, because there are no jobs for black folks, he gets properly locked up to pick cotton in the summer.
I was irritated with the reporters who were complaining about verification of the US intelligence claims. Once burned, and all that [Colin Powell]. But to me, it was all for an audience of one, Mr. Putin. As Tony Blinken quickly reminded folks, we’re trying to STOP a war, not start one. Neutralizing the disinformation and exposing the cyber warfare and false flagging may hobble the roll-out.
I've seen media questioning U.S. motives in Ukraine because of its past wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan. NPR has repeatedly raised questions about whether Biden is being provocative by focusing attention on Russian attempts at provocation.
Do YOU believe Biden is being "provocative?" I don't. After Biden's speech today, someone pointed out how he reinforced the values of democracy, in helping Ukraine's sovereignty to be respected. One of the ways he has been doing this is to reveal intelligence analysis to hobble or frustrate the well-established pattern of Putin's disinformation and false-flagging campaigns.
I think Biden is doing exactly what he needs to do. By revealing Putin's disinformation and fans-flag operations, Biden is undercutting these tactics. NPR's "Morning Edition" twice this week has tried to leave the impression that Biden is making matters worse, which is absurd.
NPR has been, in some ways, the soundtrack of my life for many years. That's because the Portland NPR affiliate, KOPB, does excellent work. My wife and I help support it financially. with monthly contributions. During OPB's recent fund drive, I considered reducing or stopping the payments because of NPR's decline in quality journalism. When I'm driving I find myself swearing at some of the crap I hear.
I'm hoping/praying that Putin will take the hint and only do a minor attack to save face and strut away like he won WWIII. Wildly spinning the narrative, no doubt. Putin, not content to be czar of Muscovy, wants desperately to gather all 15 former Soviet states back--because without the former territorial acquisitions of the Soviet regime...Moscow doesn't amount to much.
Putin wants to prove to Ukrainians that NATO cannot protect them and wants to crush their democratic movement. And he wants to take back territory once controlled by the Russian Empire and then the Soviet Union.
Just as Hitler resented the Trianon treaties at the end of WW1, Putin resents the treaties at the end of the Cold War.
If Trump were in office, you can be darn sure he and his Republican facilitators and synchofants would have the FBI taking Bill and Hillary Clinton into custody if NARA found boxes of Whitehouse and classified records at their private home.
Just like the Russian aggression against Ukraine, we have a world of double standards. One set of, or more correctly no set of standards for bullies, law breakers and people of privilege, and a well defined, enforceable and enforced set of standards for everyone else. We see this throughout our Jim Crow South. We see this with white privilege. We see this with "pro-life" people with guns. The examples are endless, and they are promoted on social media, by talking heads like Joe Rogan, by FOX. We live in a very dangerous time where all of our resources are spent navigating this jungle rather than providing for people and our shared future.
Isn’t that essentially the difference though between those of us who believe in and want a democracy and those that want an authoritarian tyranny? We treat others as we wish to be treated. We’re striving to be more than just a wild pack of vicious, angry animals all fighting thru any means possible to just be the alpha at the top.
Correct. A woman would have been arrested immediately. Or Obama. But.....?
It would seem that locking up Trump is something that America is not really organized to do.
However, we do have Angola prison, that former slave plantation, down in Alabama, where, I think it is still legal to use prisoners to pick cotton.
Angola to make sure that if a black man steals a loaf of bread from the 7-11 to feed his starving family, because there are no jobs for black folks, he gets properly locked up to pick cotton in the summer.
"NARA “has also learned that some White House staff conducted official business using non-official messaging accounts that were not copied or forwarded into their official electronic messaging accounts,”
Reporting on this goes back to 2017 and through 2019. "The New York Times had reported that at least six officials, including former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, former strategist Steve Bannon, and aides Stephen Miller and Gary Cohn, had used personal accounts for at least some official business."
Members of Trump's administration and family - bit of an overlap there - ignored NSA guidelines and negligently and purposefully by-passed official servers which automatically archive communications.
It would seem that locking up Trump is something that America is not really organized to do.
However, we do have Angola prison, that former slave plantation, down in Alabama, where, I think it is still legal to use prisoners to pick cotton.
Angola to make sure that if a black man steals a loaf of bread from the 7-11 to feed his starving family, because there are no jobs for black folks, he gets properly locked up to pick cotton in the summer.
Thanks, Mike. Your wording here clarifies a great deal for me.; Indeed, a big part of the problem is that "America is not really organized" to lock up Trump.
Yes, our system does not do much to indict, try, convict, and punish rich white men who commit white collar crimes.
Angola is a Louisiana maximum security prison. So I think Trump would have to be prosecuted for crimes in Louisiana. In New York there are Sing Sing and Attica, so he might be sent 'up the river where he belongs.'
"It's pretty remarkable how far the US intel community has come in counter-active measures efforts in the last few years. The analysis paralysis of the past has been replaced by an intentional workstream declassifying intel to expose plans before they're set in motion. Kudos.
February 18th 2022". Chris Krebs' tweet. How many are the "last few years"? If that means "since 2017", it's no surprise to hear that there was "an analysis paralysis". It was noticeably enforced - the paralysis, that is. The truth, even shredded, is now being carried out in boxes.
And through all of this, the Republicans fail to mention that both George W and DJT had personal servers just like Hillary's and that GWB DELETED over 1/2 a million emails from that server. With DJTs penchant for destroying documents and his socialmediaaccounts, how many did he delete. AND Hillary's have all been pored over, sanitized and declared a non-issue by all the top security agencies 'lo these many years. AND they probably cost her the election. What did it cost GWB or tRUMP?
The thing about the emails that still haunts me--other than just the Great American Industry of Hating Hilary--is the headline, streamed across the front page of every major newspaper as if the conclusion were obvious--"FBI Re-Opens Investigation Into Clinton Emails." There are all sorts of factors that contributed to the outcome of that election, but that particular way of handling that particular piece of information at just that particular moment in time had a very large impact.
The news this week is overwhelming and it is refreshing to read this, distilled to the heart of the matter. A side note: I’ve known several people with fairly high government security clearances over the years. If anyone of them had taken nationally classified documents home, they’d already be in custody.
Thank you for your insights.
This case appears open and shut. What's not known is the degree and extent of national security being compromised. As swamped as the Justice Department is, Merrick Garland has no justification for not opening an investigation, ordering the FBI to learn what happened to the documents for months at Mar-a-Lago, and turning over the evidence to a grand jury.
Michael, I not only agree, but also would add that for some time there has been sufficient factual predication to open up criminal investigations involving not only the Jan. 6th foot soldiers. I understand from Laurence Tribe that some months ago several scholars and former prosecutors had laid out a blueprint for a myriad of criminal offenses that might have been committed by Trump and by others at the top. The key point was not to obsess over the political downsides of an indictment. That was for a later day. That understood, surely now, presuming Garland has not already ginned up a full-blown criminal investigation, he should do so at once.
Frankly, my concern, after four years of Trump, is that Garland is so intent on re-establishing the independence of the Justice Department that he is overly cautious about appearing partisan. I would note, to the contrary, that if Main Justice doesn’t start holding everybody at the top accountable, at least to the point of being subject to full-blown criminal investigation, then we’re really giving up on democracy, which is premised both on our having institutions we can trust and, of course, also on the idea that no one is above the law. As a final point, I would note that it’s not nearly as easy to stonewall a grand jury as it is to stonewall a congressional committee.
There are a number of honorable and normal steps AG Garland could take to send a clear message on the opening of an investgation without breaching DOJ norms, policies, or compromising its independence. Among the most effective would be the appointment of a special counsel. We have seen with the appointment and investigation by John Durham of the opening of the Mueller probe how this protects an investigation even across the change of administrations. This should have been done months ago. Tomorrow would be acceptable to correct this oversight. A second step would be convening a special grand jury to hear evidence of a conspiracy and render indictments or not. If DOJ intends to examine these matters internally rather than use a special counsel, then let’s get the special grand jury impaneled.
Bruce, You’ve methodically established the various possibilities portraying how one would hope the DOJ would proceed. Thank you.
Laurence Tribe actually commented on twitter, probably 2-3 weeks ago now, something to the effect that Garland was doing what he needed to do.
David, Because I didn’t see Tribe’s tweet, I’m uncertain of how it squares with his earlier comments. Additionally, if the tweet reads as you say, I’m also uncertain about actions by the DOJ that would justify the tweet. As a final point, I would note that BruceC’s comment above is a useful reference for all of us.
I do not remember his words. But the purpose was to let people know that Garland was doing what he needed to do.
Good points, Barbara and BruceC, especially about a grand jury. And suspects also can't endlessly appeal Justice Department subpoenas. On the one-year anniversary of the insurrection, Garland said those involved at every level would be held accountable. So I believe the department will do its job, though perhaps there was a better way. To BruceC's Just knowing that a special counsel had appoint to take on this job would have given us more hope.
Michael, Like you, I was particularly intrigued by BruceC’s mention of a designated special counsel, thus moving the investigation out of DOJ and also removing any conflict of interest.
Sophia, Though I don’t attribute the recent developments you mentioned to DOJ, I do appreciate your confidence and also would note that I view BruceC’s comment above as a useful reference for all of us.
All these attacks on AG Merrick Garland are extremely puzzling. How do YOU know he has not ordered an investigation, or that it is even necessary for the DOJ to tell the FBI how to do their job?
I so agree, MaryPat. And certainly not the moment in time to be didactic about the Justice Dept. I trust that this Atty General knows better than any of us about “justification”.
Sadly, at this point it is difficult to believe that no whisper of a criminal investigation of T___p and his cronies has escaped from the DOJ. If something is going on, then there is an unprecedented level of security in the department.
I believe, as has been discussed on this forum, that charges at the state level are what is going to stick. And what is going to get him on the stand.
As divided as this country is, and as frustrating as it is to not yet have charges from DOJ, perhaps part of the calculus is that State cases, both civil and criminal, would be preferable if they accomplish the same goals. The main aim should be to prevent TFG from ever holding office again, and despite his grandiose claims of multi-billionaire status, he'll likely be bankrupted. At that point, the oligarchs will desert him like rats from a sinking ship. While effective, this will frustrate many of us who long to see him and his family in orange jumpsuits. The bad news is that the Republican party will have many volunteers to replace him as leader of an authoritarian government here in the "land of the free."
Beyond true. In Tx, Gov Abbott is a horror. However, I believe that Lt Gov Dan Patrick is more dangerous. He actually believes the bull Schitt that they foist on all Texans. He is a religious zealot who has no respect for any opinion but his own. He was a poor excuse for a sports reporter when I lived in Houston years ago. Now he has illusions of grandeur that match chumps. Now he is going after tenure after they have shut down any teaching of the ugly parts of our history. He has big money behind his evil. God forbid he go nationwide.
Yes. And there will be plenty coming up at federal level that will belong to the DOJ. Unlike the Special Committee on Jan 6th, Atty Gen Garland’s dept intact until Jan 2025.
I think it's pretty clear he's soon going to be bankrupted. Eric Trump was practically in tears on Fox the other day. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/emotional-eric-trump-almost-breaks-down-in-tears-during-fox-news-interview/ar-AATS1uX
I've had the same thought--perhaps a local DA will prove more bold than DOJ. And if T___p is once indicted, perhaps the chips will start to fall
Christine, I agree. If anything at all comes of the multiple crimes Trump has committed, the State will have the most teeth to atleast do something. I don't expect it to be the level at which most people want, but it may be more than he has had in the past.
😬 Teeth gripping and not letting go!
Among other things, he's going to be bankrupted. That's tantamount to castrating him.
Given the “States Rights” perspective of these extremists, perhaps it is better that the States lead in this matter?
Not in Texas
Preferably a red state like Georgia? But wait, a Black prosecutor would be “racist.” And those in New York are “far left radical communists.” However, financial crimes are supposedly easier to prove. Motive for cheating isn’t relevant, perhaps. He didn’t cheat to make America great again, unless you believe America is better off when the right kind of people can cheat.
May i point out that in our current circumstances, timing is everything?
Yes. Everything.
It is indeed
I do not have any info regarding what the AG is doing right now about all this, but recently I went to a page on the Federalist Society <spit> site, whereon I found the following lists of speakers who shared a FS dais with Garland over the years:
https://fedsoc.org/contributors/merrick-garland
That page lists all the FedSoc-sponsored talks Garland spoke at. The most recent was this in 2012:
"Professional Responsibility: Prosecutorial Misconduct
2012 National Lawyers Convention
The Mayflower Hotel
1127 Connecticut Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20036
Speakers:
James C. Dunlop • Merrick B. Garland • Sidney K. Powell • Ronald D. Rotunda • Kenneth L. Wainstein"
And from 2007:
"The Independence of Federal Prosecutors
2007 National Lawyers Convention
The Mayflower Hotel
1127 Connecticut Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20036
Speakers:
Bob Barr • Merrick B. Garland • Jamie Gorelick • Andrew McCarthy • John C. Yoo"
So not guilt by association, but also not promising.
Well said, MaryPat. You speak my mind.
I share your frustration. My initial reaction to this discovery of classified documents being removed to Florida was - handcuffs now please!
But in reference to Garland, I believe he is as meticulous and ethical as any American could be. If I were him, I would be assembling my facts and evaluating the law so carefully that when ultimately charging someone, the results would be almost pre-determined. Garland will always look at these matters from a judge's perspective which is "don't bring anything before me unless you have an iron clad case."
And if I were Garland I would do it in a manner that does not reveal it's destination until absolutely necessary. I would hold my cards close until I hauled in the pot.
General Garland's perspicaciousness wins the day for America's continued democracy! Yay!
Yes, and it is the Jan. 6 investigative committee that has uncovered the stolen documents, among other incriminating evidence. Perhaps Garland is on their coattails, gathering the evidence after they do?
They are all gathering the evidence required to prove their many and main case.
Hello Michael:
What is your rationale supporting your contention?
Attorney General Merrick Garland is truly a patriot, as you are also.
The General is NOT required to openly divulge his efforts just because we lack the patience, (sufficient knowledge of the process required to succeed in court), to support and trust in the Generals competence.
We should, instead of casting any doubt whatsoever, profusely thank our FATHER in Heaven for HIS blessing upon us for General Garland's self-less sacrificing for accepting what he surely knew would be a thankless job.
The man is a National treasure who will sure be instrumental in saving our American Democracy!
Yes, "General Garland!" We are in the midst of a War on Justice in this country, seeded by the same dictator who this day intends to invade and steal Ukraine. As Lucian Truscott IV wrote today on his Substack site: "I think Garland and the DOJ are way ahead of where we think they are. I think their effectiveness can be measured at least in part by the fact they do not leak. Everyone should put their slippers on and sit back and wait for the show to start."
https://luciantruscott.substack.com/p/bedtime-for-bozos?r=7ygy0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
Will this be the "Show" where trump is fired!?
😅 Stocking up on popcorn!
One can pray…
He can join Guiliani on The Masked Singer.
George, it does seem that locking up Trump is something that America is not really organized to do in a timely manner that prevents him from continuing his campaign to dismember American Democracy.
However, we do have Angola prison, that former slave plantation, down in Alabama, where, I think it is still legal to use prisoners to pick cotton.
Angola to make sure that if a black man steals a loaf of bread from the 7-11 to feed his starving family, because there are no jobs for black folks, he gets properly and promptly locked up to pick cotton in the summer.
So, its all good. Let Garland tiptoe around Trump. No worries. If, by time Garland gets ready to charge Trump, Trump is already dictator for life.....
....no worries.
If you have helped Trump like Putin, you will be just fine.
WOW!
REALLY!?
Yes George.
Really. And. Truly.
Timing is NOT irrelevant.
I thought Angola was in Louisiana.
Who are you referring to in your last sentence, Mike S? Are you projecting the attorney general being “fine” or the commentator you are addressing? Either way, you are suggesting aiding and abetting an enemy. Totally inappropriate.
Hi Christine. I am suggesting, in what must not be a clear way, that those who are helping Trump dismantle our Democracy will be just fine if Trump becomes dictator. Until they are not of course. Trump is as erratic as a fruit fly.
My comment was directed at George, but, perhaps that is too pointed.
I think criticism of Merrick Garland around timing is appropriate given the damage that Trump continues to do every day.
Leaving Trump loose is not a free pass for America while Merrick gathers and gathers and gathers and gathers evidence.
Mike, Mike, Mike. What would your mother say? Don’t get me wrong. I find him repulsive too. Remember his social development stopped when he was 8 years old or so. We will be rid of him. Meanwhile we are dealing with a childlike mental focus. Putin recognized this. The GOP recognized this. Both worked to throw the nation off balance and thwart Freedom and democracy. We all know the stakes now. Perhaps the Ukraine can somehow escape the clutches of the Putin Trump Conspiracy that is playing out now. Perhaps not.
Pat. Aye. My mother would roll over in her grave at much of the stuff she is unaware of about her beloved son. You are right. :-)
But, in this case Pat, it is time to take action. Timing is critical and Trump is cementing control over his future dictatorship as we speak.
IF the Justice Department is going to do something, the window is closing FAST.
(Just for clarity, Angola Prison is in Louisiana.-I thought it was in LA so I checked- LOL!)
Louisiana, Alabama, Mississipi, it's all the same.
:-)
Add Texas
My nightmare every night, Rupert keeps the troops in line no matter what else happens. God forbid that the cult hears bad news
:-)
I support Garland. No attorney general has faced a bigger challenge. Any doubts I had were allayed by his comments on the one-year anniversary of the insurrection. The process is frustratingly slow, even in normal times. But that's because it's meticulous and seeks to be fair.
Exactly!
Vote intelligently!
I do so hope you are correct. It is hard to wait for Garland to respond, not knowing if he has.
George, Though your query is not addressed to me, since my endorsement of Michael’s stance is included in this thread, I’d be interested in knowing whether, in your view, I have provided ample justification. Thanks.
Speculation about Attorney General Merrick Garland’s competence is commensurate with American’s very short memory about even the most spectacular news.
Surely being acquainted with some knowledge of General Garland would obviate any doubt about him.
Merrick Garland wrote his 235-page honors thesis on industrial mergers in Britain in the 1960s.
Merrick Garland graduated from Harvard in 1974 as class valedictorian with an A.B. summa cum laude and was elected to Phi Beta Kappa.
Merrick Garland then attended Harvard Law School, where he was a member of the Harvard Law Review.
And so on and so forth…
AND
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/merrick-garland-american-bar-association-224593
General Garland has not forgotten the disaster caused by the inconclusiveness of the Robert Mueller report. Trump and all his minions used such manipulated ineffectualness to falsely declare his exoneration of the stipulated guilt which was clearly spelled out in the RM report.
Any investigation/indictment/prosecution of the first president in the history of the United States of America that fails to convincingly convict trump will likely become the disaster sought by all those who strive to destroy American democracy.
Well, that should about do it, Eh!?
Your welcome.
George, Thank you for your detailed response. As for your caveat regarding the Mueller investigation. I would note that Barr’s bastardized 21/2 page summary, the only text we saw for a month once the investigation was completed, coupled with Muller’s abysmal testimonial performance lead me not to trust this example as a reliable precedent. Additionally, I would note that my comment mainly focused on the consequences of not holding those at the top accountable, at least to the point of being subject to full-blown investigation. As noted, said persons, who continue to stonewall the Congressional Select Committee, would have a far more difficult time stonewalling a grand jury. Also, as noted, the decision to indict would be deferred to a later date, pending what the investigation produced. Last, I would note that criminal investigation tends to focus the mind. And the mind of the country needs to be focused on this, because however important other things are, we nearly are running out the clock on democracy.
INDEED!
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...and let's not forget Garland successfully prosecuted Timothy Mc Veigh and his partner. Terry Nichols for bombing the Murragh Federal Building in Oklahoma City.
GOOD ONE!
The best legal minds I have found dispatched the snake once it had finished its writhings.
Yes! Love This!
It would seem that locking up Trump is something that America is not really organized to do in a timely manner that prevents him from continuing his campaign to dismember American Democracy.
However, we do have Angola prison, that former slave plantation, down in Alabama, where, I think it is still legal to use prisoners to pick cotton.
Angola to make sure that if a black man steals a loaf of bread from the 7-11 to feed his starving family, because there are no jobs for black folks, he gets properly and promptly locked up to pick cotton in the summer.
Thank You George!!
Exactly. Us Democrats have repeatedly suffered ourselves with apparent stupidity. Face it, we were daily the subject of ridicule during the impeachment debates. Gym Jordan, Slut-Gaetz, Schuck Grassley, and a few others repeatedly made us seem inept at what we were trying to proceed with. I will take exception to Ms Val Demmings, whose salty tongue and dignified appearance hit Gym square in the nutz.., on several occasions. She's presidential material! We let Comey and the FBI drive us apeshit. And, we are letting Man-chin and Sin-enama ramble around on the news-screens..., for what? We are weak. And we look weak. This doesn't mean we need to engage in any shouting matches... uh uhh! The moRons would love that. It remains one of their favorite tools, yet we have stayed clear of it. We do need to recognize what we are doing as a tactic. I'm going to hope.., and watch.., and listen intently. One can only hope that we have people in charge who have clearly learned from past mealy-mouthed exhibitions. President Biden, has sat thru dozens of security briefings. We need to exhibit support.. not doubt. But it is entirely good to air our concerns here. Who knows who is listening on our side. Finally, I once saw this painting of the wall of the 4485th Test Squadron briefing room. It was a menacing gorilla holding a hand of cards. The caption below read: "This ain't no puss game".....
Got that?
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Nope
MaryPat, Because in the past 2 hours 16 subscribers seem to indicate otherwise, if time permits, I would welcome your reasoning.
Barbara, all of this hullabaloo was started by one person who was AG Merrick Garland's law professor 45 years ago. Currently Garland is overseeing top secret investigations, and knows how incredibly important it is to not show his hand. I taught hundreds of students at the University of Michigan for 20 years and would never presume to know the inner workings of their jobs today. And I remain close (and loyal) to many of them. Lucian Truscott IV wrote on his Substack site today: "I think Garland and the DOJ are way ahead of where we think they are. I think their effectiveness can be measured at least in part by the fact they do not leak. Everyone should put their slippers on and sit back and wait for the show to start."
We have a nation of worn out, frustrated people on our hands. It goes against our grain as good hearted, law abiding people to see someone seemingly getting away with such obvious crimes. I am right there with you Michael. But where we differ is I am holding my tongue. My feeling is we must present a united front at this critical time. I asked a lawyer why the delay with DOJ. They guessed that maybe the DOJ is making sure they have a perfectly tight case because this Country will explode if people start getting locked up.
I think this DOJ has been extremely close attention to leaks of the past and is playing it very close to the chest. They’ve organized a trustworthy group who is more interested in their roles as attorneys than getting a leak in the press or a sound bite on Fox. It happened with Mueller and 2 times with Durham. We see how those two false statements caused Republicans and MAGAts to claim it’s all Hillary’s fault. Heather is correct when she exclaimed “But her emails”. Those screaming it have done much worse and gotten away with it so far.
"They" have not.
"They" are now living in a fantasy.
The cage is now so very immense "They" can not perceive being captive.
Judication processes will shrink the cage and their confinement will soon become terrifyingly encapsulated with many strangely crude life forms.
Woo hoo, waiting
Part of "The Plan" is to give him/them enough rope and they/he will hang themselves/himself.
The end of the rope is now in sight!
I sincerely hope it is. We are drawing nearer and nearer to the midterms. The Republicans are planning on winning and they are planning on everything from executions (from trump's mouth) to jailing the January 6 Committee (Jordon) to impeaching Biden and Harris (MTG).
In other words we standing on the tracks and a train is barreling down on us. No wonder we are a mess as a Country.
Have faith in all those who voted for Biden.
Most of those will devote all they possibly can to defeating ALL republicans in the same way you will support the, "Get-Out-To-Vote" effort TODAY!
DO IT!
Vote intelligently.
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Agree!
Our concerns are justified. Their outburst should come as no surprise. And we need to have a response tailored for that moment. The world will be listening, so it darn well better not be some limpy sounding line expressing happiness.
If we’re worn out, how do Indigenous and wage slaves feel? So many rotten things have been going on since before our so-called independence in this country that it beggars the mind. Let’s hold on a little bit longer and pray that the arc of justice moves on.
You might wish to review the consequence of the Mueller report's lack of political "punch" lacking a conviction which embolden tRump to even greater blatant crimes.
General Garland has NOT forgotten that disaster.
You can rest assured that when tRump is indicted he will be adjudicated guilty and incarcerated in prison long enough to become a death sentence!!
Pray that General Garland continues to be blessed by GOD's freely given grace's wisdom and fortitude against all of the impatient naysayers!
AND
Vote intelligently
True, expect it
This case is far from “open and shut”. I doubt Trump can be prosecuted for having classified material at Mar A Lago. Here’s the explanation from WaPo, “Even with documents marked classified found where they don’t belong, prosecutors have a high legal bar to get to criminal charges. Prosecutors would have to prove someone intentionally mishandled the material or was grossly negligent in doing so — which can be a steep hurdle in its own right. And Trump, as president, would have had unfettered latitude to declassify material, potentially raising even bigger challenges to bringing a case against him.”
Trump is incredibly slippery. It will be exceedingly difficult for Garland to successfully prosecute him.
Exactly. Which is why he ultimately will be Al Caponed.
That's a good running joke among us, yes?
Your observation that trump is "...incredibly slippery..." may make him even more popular in prison, Eh!?
Thank-you George, for that chuckle.
He took boxes with him. He was supposed to leave it for Archives. No tearing up documents, either, nor flushing. The taped together ones are evidence, aren’t they? Let’s see if he tries to blame the Deep State or Antifa.
But does Trump have power to declassify them after his presidency has concluded? It is not likely the case that he had the foresight to do that at the time. He was clearly in a rush to leave the White House when he did, because, until the last, he thought he would still remain President. I don’t think the gross negligence will be such a difficult thing to prove. He had been warned about record keeping by NARA in the past. What am I missing?
Nothing I can see. We need the timeline.
Welp, looks to me like we are running pretty hard on "conjecture", much as we all would like to personally "slam dunk" this despicable POS. Cold, hard facts or a lynch mob from Natchez(?), are needed.
If it should be proven that Trump DID "wave classified documents" around to guests at Maralago? That might help.
Does anyone remember multiple news reports of 45 having meetings in the dining areas of Mar-a-Lago with other diners and servers around. People from all kinds of countries, discussing national security in a restaurant. That didn't seem to cause any big waves. Of course, with him in charge if anyone filed a complaint or said their was a problem, they were immediately fired. Thus the problem vanishes.
Agree. Trouble is, as I see it.., all numbnutz needs to say is that he would never do such a thing and whatever he was seen waving was not what you might have thought it was...,xxxxx..Not guilty. Next.
Trumpism has become bigger than Trump. He has certainly worked hard to gin it up. I fear that even though he may ultimately be held accountable for his many crimes, that just removes Trump from the political scene. It does not address someone who might be waiting in the wings to take his place.
The unlimited perks as president were as addictive as his evil ego is huge.
I follow Glenn Kirschner on YouTube. Former prosecutor for DC. He said the DOJ has no timeline, follows every case through gathering evidence… they will not bring a case that they can’t win. So… I’m certain they’re building a case. I’m sure they must be stymied by whether or not they can win … however, it seems the destroyed and stolen top secret, confidential federal documents case could be a slam dunk … perhaps there’s a team of prosecutors spending their weekend preparing arguments for just such a case. 🤞🏼
I might have been too hasty when I said the case appears to be a slam dunk, as it would be for anyone other than an ex-president. Still, the FBI has the skills and resources to discover how the stolen classified documents had been used (abused?) at Mar-a-Lago.
Is it possible that he is waiting until absolutely everything is brought to light?
General Garland is NOT WAITING!
We, however must be the ones supporting him with every resource possible, while we await the results of his exhaustive efforts to protect America's Democracy.
George,
Trump is not waiting either. Every day that goes by he removes one more brick form the supporting structure of our Democracy.
So, no rush. Let Garland take his sweet time.
IF, by the time Garland finally decides to press charges Trump is already dictator for life.
Oh. Well. That's how it goes.
Hello Mike:
I hope that you are not becoming discouraged about a legal process that may be compromised in any fashion thereby resulting a failure to convincingly convict trump and ALL of his minions.
I pray hopefully that you will vote to remove ALL R's from office and do all you can to help others understand the critical importance of voting out R's this November.
Please vote intelligently.
DO IT!
George,
I respect your respect for Merrick Garland who matriculated through the very top of America's very elite organizations.
However, George, I am more familiar with the world OUTSIDE of those organizations and I am here to tell you, taking too much time with Trump is deadly.
That is all I am trying to say really.
Time is what we do not have now.
I just hope it’s not like the long wait for Mueller to nail his crimes, and then have a four page memo of bull Schitt negate the whole effort.
This is my belief as well.
It's possible that trump shared classified information with his buddy, Putin, and that information may have been a factor in Putin's build-up of forces along the Ukraine border.
Without any question what-so-ever American Security division would have scrambled every document in trumps position rendering them useless to Putin...
trump was NEVER advised thereafter about the real inner workings...just something that looked important because trump is an illiterate buffoon!
I certainly hope so!
Yes.
Alexander Yuk Ching Ma, 67, a former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer, was arrested on Aug. 14, 2020, on a charge that he conspired with a relative of his who also was a former CIA officer to communicate classified information
Donald J. Trump, found to have stolen many classified documents known to compromise national security (presumbably all documents given to Putin). Currently serving 10 years to life at Mara Lago resort and golf club. Steak and Ale for breakfast.
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It would seem that locking up Trump is something that America is not really organized to do.
However, we do have Angola prison, that former slave plantation, down in Alabama, where, I think it is still legal to use prisoners to pick cotton.
Angola to make sure that if a black man steals a loaf of bread from the 7-11 to feed his starving family, because there are no jobs for black folks, he gets properly, and promptly, locked up to pick cotton in the summer.
My husband used to do background investigations for security clearances. If he had found out about something like this, the person who took nationally classified documents home would have been "red flagged" and never given a clearance. (Unless, of course, his name was Trump or Kushner).
Yes. I want to know how t-rump seems to get away with all he has been for so long -I cannot even accept it -or wrap my mind around it
Thank you for saying that out loud. I'm pretty sure we all wonder the same thing.
That was the argument in 2016 against HRC. In hindsight, the documents collected back then did not impact national security; I wonder how toxic the Mar-A-Lago hoard is to the USA.
NARA is responsible for the preservation *and access* of records. As with other agencies which interface directly with the public - IRS, USPS, Social Security - Republicans have hobbled Archives services to frustrate the public with government and to get us to push for privatization.
Of course, with the Trump administration, Republicans have had an additional incentive to actively prevent access. For several years Freedom of Information Act requests have been backed up. Now that Trump's presidential papers irregularities have metastasized to possible criminal cases, the situation created by Trump and his Republican co conspirators is taking a disproportionate percentage of limited resources. This does not only obstruct research and reporting - ie government transparency.
Recently Rep. Jared Golden (D, Maine CD2) a combat veteran of our conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, who now serves on the Veterans Affairs Committee, wrote to NARA about the plight of veterans, who because they cannot access their records, which can only be accessed through NARA, they cannot receive their essential and emergency benefits.
The harm Trump and the Republicans do ripples out across the nation. Much of it irreparable for many of us.
https://golden.house.gov/media/press-releases/response-severe-backlog-veterans-records-requests-golden-joins-call-full
https://golden.house.gov/sites/golden.house.gov/files/Bentz.Keller.RMBost-Letter%20to%20Fully%20Reopen%20NPRC%201.24.22.pdf
https://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records
https://www.archives.gov/veterans
Lin, I can also attest that nothing at the VA can move for a vet without access to records, from several heartbreaking experiences of fellow veterans. Even with the problems both I and my wife had, they were nothing compared with the experiences of others. While Jabba bragged about what he was doing for the vets and the money he was sending to the VA, it’s services began a significant decline soon after he took office. Part of that was cronies without any experience who were gradually replacing the professionals installed by the Bush and Obama administrations, part of it was Jabba’s obsessive rolling back the VA advances to care and benefits of President Obama, and then part of it was pure Covid 19. Example: The VA had no PPE stockpiles. Remember the South Korean government flying a plane with 50,000 masks to the VA “In honor of the American soldiers who served and died for our country.” The VA was the only major hospital system in the country to all but completely shut down its services. I can’t explain why, nor has anyone given me a reason that makes sense. I could go on, but you get the point. I still get all of my medical services at non-VA providers and hospitals, and they have to rely on me to provide what medical records I have or can remember, which hampers their ability to make good medical decisions in some cases. Other vets are doing the same thing, and we may never go back. It’s a shame, because the VA gave me decent care in the past, and saved my life twice.
Lin, in fairness I give a shout out to my local VA clinic, best care I have ever had. They have struggled to reopen, subject to Administration controls, but most services and departments still closed. President Obama really did make a huge difference in our care and benefits as well (he put a major push on to fast-track records!), only to see the VA partly lose it’s way after he left office....
I use both VA and civilian resources because my records are so dispersed and generally unavailable. My medical care is cobbled from luck and accident. My DDForm214 alone probably saved my life because several critical records “vanished.”
My husband is a Vietnam Vet. He has only used the VA for therapy and meds from a psychiatrist and a therapist. Because of new compensable medical issues that they are discovering, he is now getting a blood draw from them…first time ever…after 53 years!
Here is a man who truly loves you both, (Just as every American should!), for your patriotic sacrifices and brave service as one of America's U. S. Military Heroes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI-_cipRbqA
George, I am REALLY grateful for that Link, thank you! Jon Stewart is anything but skin-deep. A solid human being.
I was a 'burner' while waiting for my combat assignment at Long Binh, and then again after transfer from my combat tour, to the 12th Evac MASH at 25th Div. base in Cu Chi, I was briefly sentenced to burning again as I 'adjusted' to base dress code and protocol.
Every 'shi##er' on base had cut-down 55 gallon drums for depositing human waste. Behind each latrine was 5 gallon diesel fuel cans and a paddle or stick. After sliding out the unoccupied drums you poured the fuel into each one, tossed in something on fire, and picked up the stick, pipe, or paddle and stirred the cauldrons--producing thick, fetid, oily black smoke. It took hours of stirring, because the diesel did not mix with the urine and feces by itself. The smoke was inescapable, and you burned until all that was left was a thin lumpy tar product. Then you cooled the drums, slid them back into the latrine, and brought out the remaining drums, repeat. Like, standing there under the hot tropical sun, you say, "I'm just not warm enough--I need to burn me some sh#t!" Wonderful fragrance on your fatigues, nose hairs and lungs, but it beat combat! And I was lucky--it was temporary duty, and I came home ALIVE. With a bunch of medals and certain smells that my nose will never forget....
Gus!
All of us here love you, respect you, and are so very grateful for the sacrifices you endured in service to America.
You, and all returning military service men/women are our heroes!
We owe all of you more than we can ever repay, but we all hope to be able to honor you by helping make your living life much more comfortable, peaceful and full of joy.
Ohhhh Gus…my heart goes out to you. I had been with my husband for over 20 years-before I learned about his experiences in Nam (68-69). The only reason was that he suffered a breakdown, out of the blue. He applied for PTSD benefits but writing three incidences that he
was involved in while in combat. It was there I learned the horrors he lived through. I burst into tears. He was referred to a psychiatrist who had been denying every veteran their right to compensation and help. Before he saw him, we learned the VA told him he had to stop that “practice”. My husband should've been given a 75% or a 100% as it affected his job but no, he was given 50%. That was over 30 years ago and he never has been reevaluated because he despises the VA and the government. I hope you are taking care of yourself, Gus.
Oh Gus. I pray that somehow President Biden’s administration will restore the care that President Obama’s administration gave to strengthening and streamlining procedural structures within the VA.
I too get almost all of my medical care here in GA at the VA. The Atlanta VA did indeed shut down as soon as the virus started, but so did the assisted living facility my father was in, and maybe that was part of the reason the hospital shut down, they have a lot of end of life veterans on the upper floors. They have been reopening but like you say, it’s not the same as before. The insipid clown did as much as he could do destroy the federal government, including the PO and the VA. I have found the people there almost universally to be caring and considerate especially now after 2 years of this goddamn virus 🦠. I still prefer to get my care there, and I have excellent private insurance, because I like being with my brothers-in-arms, we still get each other’s backs and I find that comforting. The individual clinics, hematology, hearing, eye care, dental, mental health etc. are as good as you can find and if they can’t help you they will refer you outside of the VA to specialists who can. I know they have been hampered on purpose, but they are swimming against that current heroically from what I have witnessed.
ThankYou. Your insightful and detailed reporting is very useful. A good continuation of Gus' comment.
Can’t “heart” this, Dick but I have noticed since my husband put in a claim for hypothyroidism recently, that the VA has been over-responsive. This is a welcomed sight, in my opinion. In fact, here in No. California, the people who have examined him have been female and are very patient with an impatient man. I am happy to hear your (and others) experiences have been so good.
Hi Melanie, I too am having 'heart' problems, ❤
Dick, thanks for your service, Trooper! My wife and I were both receiving care at the Atlanta VA, for over 25 years, and no substantive complaints besides understandable beaurocratic hiccups and the occasional bad apple. Amazing what they did with all they were faced with, if you could find a parking spot....and they improved that over the years. My wife was there for months at a time, and I had many surgeries including open heart, and an agent orange tumor ablation. Got to know the place really well, and see improvements up close. President Obama's Veterans Choice program has now become Community Care in spite of republican efforts to kill it when they could no longer personally enrich themselves.
I agree with everything you wrote, and we chose the VA for the same reasons. I have every hope that President Biden will repair the damage and do good things for us, but I am getting to the point in life when I will have to choose one or the other, and I just may not be able to wait for the VA to recover itself. Thanks again!
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Lin, I’m not sure what the source of your information regarding the VA is, but there is misinformation in it. Medical facilities (VA and non) no longer “stockpile” supplies. It was found to be wasteful as many items were thrown away because they expired before they could be used. People tend to paint the whole VA with a broad brush, when there is an error or problem at on facility there is an assumption it occurs in ALL facilities. With that being said, many/moats VAs slowed or cancelled services at various times throughout the pandemic, but there has never been a threat of them closing down. The services were limited to conserve supplies - because of the global healthcare supply shortages (masks, gloves, sterile gowns, etc.) due to manufacturing limitations. To be clear, the VA and military healthcare facilities will be able to get supplies long before non-VA healthcare settings because of the purchasing power of Uncle Sam. The VA, like every other business, has bad employees (doctors, nurses, administrators), but the vast majority of its employees are there because they want to serve Veterans. Direct care providers are verbally and physically abused by Veterans and their families, yet they continue to come to work and greet the Veterans with respect. Every complaint I’ve heard about care and administrative faux pas at the VA happens in non-VA settings as well, you just don’t hear about them. Are there things they can do better? Yes! But given the antiquated electronic medical system it is working with and the BILLIONS of dollars it costs to upgrade the entire (national) VA computer system - it does a damn good job. As you can tell, I’m a VA employee, a Veteran and a nurse - and I’m damn tired of the VA bashing and misinformation. *rant over*
I was an Air Force nurse. The VA operates just like any other hospital system where there are good locations and bad. The administrator at each location is vital. The biggest problem our VA system has is they get the short shrift from political appointees who can do massive damage. TFG despises our military men and women who put their life on the line for this country and would deny them medical care because they’re “suckers and losers”. I think he wanted to privatize VA healthcare to make a profit just like everything else. Already Vietnam veterans have suffered terribly with mental health issues and many are still living on the streets today. I don’t see this trend changing unless someone strong gets in there and fixes the separation process to help everyone leaving military life transition to civilian life.
So right you are.
I have to jump in here. I'm a Vet on disability (60%) and receive all my healthcare from my local VA. As Gus noted, their care has saved my life twice. I have nothing but good things to say about the professionalism and compassion shown me over the past ten years with VA.
Yes, the paperwork drill can be exasperating at times. But one of the other non-combat skills I learned in the Army was how to do battle with a Bureaucracy. It's amazing what a phone call from a Rep or Senator on an Armed Services Committee can do. Know your enemy, have a plan and a back up plan.
Glad to hear you learned how to deal with the bureaucracy. There needs to be an office dedicated to dealing with the transition from military to civilian life.
TO, ThankYou for your work. Being a government employee can be tough. You are a trifecta of public service on many frontlines. ThankYou! Your experience and perspective are really important and welcome. Please do not feel that your contribution is 'a rant.'
I think you are replying to Gus' comment and I think he provided some clarification in another of his comments.
It is complicated. Both the science and the logistics and both are complicated by politics. And now the pandemic.
Thank You, from an RN.
ThankYou, as always, Gus. I look forward to your comments.
Yes, for decades, my mother worked for a very prominent physician and somewhat greedy man, and another who had been a bombardier and was a socialist, both of whom every week volunteered their services at VA facilities.
It is not only veterans who suffer depletion of services. Military in combat zones and stateside suffer as well. Trump stole money for his wall - from funds allocated by Congress to improve dilapidated military housing.
Republicans give those who serve lip service. But for decades it has been useful to them to have a population of angry men with tactical training and armed to the teeth - not caring about suicide and self harm. Let alone 1/6.
Yes, Lin, we have found that out with members of white supremacy groups invading the armed services and police forces, now haven’t we?
And often the other way round. The mindset of many police officers fits right in. There is considerable overlap, and it is not "invading" that is causing that overlap. It goes in both directions.
Oh. No.
Hard to heart this, they were a destruction derby from before day one. Your last sentence is the bookend for Bannon’s boast about destroying the administrative state. They chose heads to destroy departments, not lead them, as was done to the USPS in 2006. Like W, chump pretended that he had a mandate and bulldozed as much of the government as he could. Why is this not a clear and concise message from Dems…
"Why is this not a clear and concise message from Dems…"
Please let me know what you mean by this?
Since Reagan openly declared 'government is the enemy' and Norquist spoke of 'shrinking government so small that you can flush it down the drain' Republicans have set to work dismantling FDR's New Deal, LBJ's Great Society, and even programs that Nixon signed into law such as the EPA and Head Start. Of course McConnell stuffed the ACA so full of poison pills they expected it to strangle at birth and when it didn't Republicans dedicated themselves to repealing it in Congress and dismembering it in the courts. Also since Reagan, Republicans have underfunded and understaffed programs and agencies. Trump was the first to endanger all of government and all of us by assembling a Cabinet and larding the Executive branch with not only incompetent and unqualified people but ideologues opposed to government in general and the missions of the agencies they were planted in.
Democrats talk about this all the time. In office, on the campaign trail, to the press . . . not sure what more you are asking for. But please let me say, it is a rhetorical trope on the Left to note the sins of the GOP, and then blame the Democrats. And just the way your comment is structured brought that to mind.
That said. It is easier to message a lie clearly and concisely, than to unpack the facts of the case and analyze them. It is easier to destroy something than to fix it.
For instance. Look at pandemic policy. It is easier to say 'the virus was created and spread by China' than to trace its origins, the mechanisms of viral spread, and its trajectory. It is easier to say 'mandates take away your freedoms' than to keep revising policy to reflect changes in the virus and in scientific knowledge.
Democrat messages need to be simplified for the dumbed down/headline reading only/think they know it alls who like to argue. Hillary’s emails, Benghazi and now freedom were constantly repeated. After President Biden said so brilliantly “pay your fair share” three times in a speech, I never saw or heard it again. And it relates to so many repubs right up (or down) to idjt45.
Yes. Make America Great vs ... Love Trumps Hate? Most stupid campaign slogan ever. Love Trump, Love Trump ... argh.
Gingrich whipped GOP rhetoric into shape. I think he sent out 'word/phrase of day' cheat sheets to keep them lockstep on message. You can hear it any day of CSpan.
GOPAC word list
https://uh.edu/~englin/rephandout.html
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/newt-gingrich-says-youre-welcome/570832/
That said. Thoughtful messaging is difficult. Not impossible but difficult.
The 'It Gets Better' campaign for LGBTQ youth for instance.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3IYv1__mSpE
Of course you are right, just wish the cultist in my red state had a clue
It is so essential to have people like you in red states. Not easy for you, but really important for all of us. ThankYou for finding the strength and fortitude.
Lin, I just want to say that I always appreciate your posts for their thoughtful clarity. Thank you.
Jared Golden is being challenged by Lepage/Trump acolyte and former Congressman, Bruce Poliquin. Golden’s voice needs to remain in DC.
From my experience, Golden is as threatened by Left wing ignorance, intransigence, and self indulgence as he is by Right wing rage and propaganda.
In collecting signatures to get Golden on the 2022 ballot, I have already had Indivisible 'activists' (who never show up to Get Out The Vote) saying 'we might as well have the Republican, there is no difference between the parties.' This is a lie of those who oppose parties in general and have a fratricidal/suicidal hatred of the Democratic party in specific.
I am in a blue dot, in a little purple circle, in a vast red wasteland and am already volunteering with the Hancock County Democratic Committee and the Golden campaign.
I am Left of my landsman (Brooklyn homeboy) Bernie Sanders and of anyone you care to name on the Progressive Caucus. But I have campaigned for Golden from the start - some of his big votes frustrate and anger me so I always go back to his full record which is overall good on environmental, labor, civil rights issues which you don't hear of in the press much and which many on the Left do not bother to research or want to know about.
Please Contact your local Democrats or HCDC.
Thank you lin...I feel the same way. Some of Golden's votes and positions are frustrating, but I have never questioned his character, honesty and desire to truly serve the best interests of ALL of his constituents in the 2nd CD. Indivisible seems only to look at the end of their nose....Jared is light-years beyond and above Poliquin and I'd never vote for any Republican in a contest with Golden. I campaigned for Bernie...I was a state level Bernie delegate and one of the twelve Dems in my town. (We joke that our caucus could have been held in a small shed)....but we do what we can, where we can!
Yes. And as a party..we better realize we have become little more than a lost ball in the weeds. Complacency brought us here. Now we are suffering because many Democrats, (and hard working Republicans!) failing to see any action taken by our politicians (Presidents included!!!) to address the simplest of tailgate crap, jumped aboard the B757 hauling the owner who promised to 'take care of it'. Yup.., ticked-off voters from everywhere jumped on the maga-expess. We Democrats, fumbling around with red-flag words like "socialism" just pee'd in our sneakers. Presently, we need to get behind every Democrat running for Governor, Senator, and Representative, plus those already there, Like Rep Golden. Wake up! "This aint no puss game" people.
AGREE 100%. Poliquin is an obsequious worm. Did you see the news of him "marching" to the state Capitol a day or so ago, in company with that other loathsome egomaniac, LePage. Poliquin did a terrible job of representing the 2nd District. He only wishes to represent himself to garner as much wealth and influence as he possibly can.
Yes, we caught that on the news. I am so disgusted that Lepage is back. Was not at all surprised to see Poliquin tagging along to suck up to him and grab that indecent exposure.
Concur! He was fortunate to see the light of day, too many did not. Still, others are 'making do' sans arms, legs, eyes. Now, Rep Golden, is on another battlefield where rules of engagement are just as fuzzy & blurred, and T-snipers abound.
Golden was not drafted into the military. After 9/11 he left college and chose to enlist in the Marines, where he was likely to be sent into combat. He has spoken openly about PTSD.
In general, I try to avoid military metaphors for other struggles. When I try to do that, I really see how overwhelmingly prevalent and almost unavoidable they are. I fear it not only reflects our mind set but bends it to combat rather than cooperation. Eventually you have to come to the bargaining table, best not have too many bodies to climb over. Actual or metaphorical.
Oh, my… :’-(
"The harm Trump and the Republicans do ripples out across the nation. Much of it irreparable for many of us."
lin, don't hold back now, are you sure that they are not "true patriots"?
:-)
Representative Jared Golden has worked hard for Maine-while I haven't always agreed with his positions as a Centrist Dem, I do respect his character, honesty and integrity. That is something I CAN'T say about Mr. Bruce Poliquin, the "conservative" slimewad who is looking to be his opponent. Poliquin is the former Representative for the 2nd District, who was so evasive about answering questions that he hid in a women's lavatory rather than face the media. He was seen marching to the state Capitol a few days ago in the company of another loathsome reject of Maine politics, Paul LePage who wants another term as Governor, since he evidently hadn't considered his mission of decimating state government to be complete enough in his first two terms (won by a lucky plurality, both times). Grrr.
OMGosh. You nailed it.
Bathroom Bruce and TeaParty LePage. They're Back. Tanned, ready, and rabid.
Some left wing 'person not party' damage can be mitigated by RCV for Golden. But as some wording in the Maine constitution blocks ranked choice for the gubernatorial race, the Elliot Cutler cultists could hand LePage a win, again.
I can verify Rep. Golden's statement about veterans not receiving their military records for needed causes.
I filed for a copy of my military records on Nov. 22, 2021. A couple of days later, I checked online, and they acknowledged receipt of my request, and the next step would be processing my request. I've checked back every week or two since then, and my request has not moved forward one bit. I checked again five minutes ago and still no movement on my case.
Four compelling stories to digest, Heather! Thank you for picking up on the most authentic points in all your communications.
A note of thanks to Judge Mehta as well for his ruling on tfg's role in the insurrection and his meticulous reading of all the evidence.
Such a great deal to be proud of tonight: a presidential president, a most effective and efficient US intelligence service, and while "[w]e do not know where the next several days will lead, of course, but it is notable that the solidarity of the countries allied against authoritarianism, strengthened by U.S. diplomacy, is holding strong."
INDEED!
Of all the important stories coming at us, one is of searing personal interest to me. My husband, Mark, was born in Odessa, Ukraine. It is a seaport in the south-west of the country, on the shore of the Black Sea. Mark was less than a year old when his family left Ukraine to come to the USA. It was a long journey without any guaranty that the family would be able immigrate here. Now we wait as more than 44 million Ukrainians prepare for war.
Those people are not simply a mass of strangers in a far away land. They have been building a democracy after living for many, many years under one tyranny after another. We can begin to know Ukraine as we anticipate what its people will be going through.
The first link opens with a mother and son in the USA visiting the homeland.
'Ukraine is more than a sphere of influence. Our staff writer Franklin Foer, whose family has roots in the country, has found himself “swept up in the nation’s struggle to free itself of corruption, authoritarianism, and its dark past.” He offers a plea to remember the people who live there.' (AtlanticMagazine)
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/02/defending-ukraine/622063/
The second link takes you to Donbas, a historical, cultural, and economic region in south-eastern Ukraine,[5][6] some of whose territory is occupied by two unrecognized separatist states. This is a digital presentation by the Washington Post, which I hope you'll all be able to see.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2022/ukraine-russia-donbas-dpr-war/
The next two links provide understanding of the conflicts that have been part of Ukraine;s history. When you hear news of the country, you will be able to have some sense of what is at stake for them and for us.
https://www.vox.com/22917719/russia-ukraine-invasion-border-crisis-nato-explained
https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/conflict-ukraine
Thank you Fern for the excellent links and also the reminder that this war or conflict is not only between leaders. Innocent people are always the victims, for some reason called “collateral damage.” And you have first hand knowledge about Ukraine with your family experience. My grandparents escaped Kiev in 1909. And other relatives came later in the 1980s. Some stayed and were victims of the Chernobyl nuclear power disaster. It is hard for Americans in this generation to understand what it means to live with wars and dictators in real time. Yet all we have to do is watch world news. It’s not so far away if a tyrant or autocrat takes over and is not stopped. Held accountable.
Irenie, I felt as though I was listening to a sister when I read your reply. 'Innocent people...' at the will and whims of tyrants. Thank you, Irenie.
Yes, Fern, we are sisters.
Irenie, my family story is somewhat similar to yours. You are correct that some “Americans in this generation” have a tough time grasping onto these thoughts. I think what they do know about is about domestic terrorism given all of the high school shootings and now, the insurrection. They know that America is in a fight with herself.
An impending war in Europe is deeply, deeply disturbing. Heather is looking for the bright side, but if and when it starts, there won’t be one.
Greg Olear is of Ukrainian heritage. [it’s Oh-Lay-Are]. I’ve learned a great deal about Ukraine from him.
https://gregolear.substack.com/p/the-ukraine-fallacies-with-victor?utm_source=url
Thanks, Roland, for continuing to shine a light on Greg Olear’s work. I discovered him a while back because you recommended his writing. I’ve learned a great deal about many things from him!
He does brilliant work. A perfect complement to LFAA (Letters from an American)
Enlightening and well worth the few minutes to read. Thank you so much for sharing this!
Thank you for the reference and the history lesson! Urge all to read.
Roland, gratitude for this! I have been educated more (about my heritage and current events) reading Greg Olear than anything before. In searching for more specific DNA, Eastern Europe is the answer. So broad and definitely not specific. On a 1909 Ship Manifest, my family country of origin is Kiev, Russia. But Kiev is the origin. And Lithuania is on the other side of family history. Even today, because of our (my) ignorance of geography and history of that region Ukraine might be considered a minor country. History is blurred and this is the way Russia (Putin) wants to keep it. Is it possible or obvious that tfg and his cronies know more Hi$tory than the average American? Back to school, USA.
Thank you for sharing about your heritage. Fascinating.
No, not possible. The dfg and his entourage are ignorant, not educated.
Wow...that was a wonderfully informative article---many thanks to the commenters here, who have turned me on to so many writers to whom I can subscribe to get the best picture possible of a wider world than that provided by the corporate controlled mainstream media!!!
Excellent!!
Thanks to you, Roland, J read Greg Olear’s articles. You and TC turned me onto him many months ago.
Yes! Greg Olear is EXCELLENT! His in-depth analysis of current events is intelligently written. He also writes about music and literary interests. A great variety of interesting and timely information. I also happily subscribe to his Substack.
Interesting article.
Fern, the facebook site, "View from my Window" with wonderful submissions of pictures from folks all over the world, has been filled in the past few weeks with photos and stories from citizens in Ukraine! Beautiful, civilized, peaceful views of cities, homes, gardens and countryside. And wishes that their country will remain so. The thousands and thousands of responses in support of these Ukranians are incredibly heartfelt and supportive. Prayers, hugs, thoughts, energy, hope - from every corner of our globe! I repost as many as I can. We are The World.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/viewfrommywindow/?ref=share
That is just SUPERB! I looked and looked, until it finally told me to connect or go away.
So glad you connected!!! I "travel" the world everyday, Google mapping the locations and measuring the distances. Enjoy!
It's brilliant. So simple! Basically, we all like the same things.
Yes. All of us around the world.
Thank you MaryPat. I haven't been on Meta(Facebook) for many years. Social Media and Fox are the primary sources of disinformation/conspiracy theories and misinformation. They are toxic forces, which need to be properly regulated. HCR's history lectures and sites, such as the one you described, offer worthwhile perspectives, but until the never-ending social pollution of social media and Fox is cleaned up, I'm a no show.
I can readily understand your stance about FB, Fern. I limit the time I spend there. FB is not meta anything, meta-universe is a flim-flam name borrowed from physics, where it has been for a good long time as a valid concept in physics theory. But I value the ability to stay in touch with people I know and care about while keeping my inbox manageable. (And I enjoy exchanging photos!) Plus there are some interest groups which are valuable to me in what I do, though most of that is done by other means nowadays. One advantage of sticking around in the peripatetic way I do is that periodically I can give FB a piece of my mind publicly. Which is fun.
❤️With mutual understanding, Annie. Salud!
Absolutely delightful, MaryPat. I have friends in various places with whom I exchange garden and yard photos, but this takes it to a whole new level! Such a pleasure. And of course I joined. Thank you for the gift.
Thanks, MaryPat, great link.
Gratitude, Fern, for these links and your story
Thank you for your care and support, kim.
in case you didn't get the notice, I adore you.
You just shut me up! I don't know who'll be happy about that. I don't talk very much, but when I do -- watch out.
We need you, Fern. Keep talkin'
Ditto here Fern!
Here’s to Fern’s Fan Club!
Same, Kim! Fern is a treasure, enlightens me daily. She needs to join us on an HH call.
Thank you for this share. It reminds us of how so many friends and family risked/risk everything to come to a country where the Mother of Exiles lifts her lamp.
And Drumpfs who came from Germany.
Yes, the Drumpfs were the family of thugs, thieves and degenerates who SHOULD have been incarcerated at the border and shipped back to Prussia.
Kallstadt
I think TFGs mother came from Ireland.
Scotland. But it's not her fault... or Scotland's! Some mothers have 'em.
I think we now need one to symbolize giving rejects the boot.
Poignant, important, real. Thank you Fern. I have felt my heart and spirit so linked with the people of Ukraine. It’s like I’m almost willing the entire free world to link in our human spirits with them as they stand strong in their sovereign rights and resist authoritarianism.
It simply must be.
Fern, your sharing of your husband's story brings home to us the reality that we are all connected in some way, either directly or indirectly. I met a young attorney from Kyev three years ago on vacation (when we were still able to do that), and learned from her more about that country and its people than ever before. Ukraine is no longer "some little country over there near Russia " and isolation is no longer a moral option.
That was heartfelt. Thank you so much.
Thank you for your care, Anne-Louise.
the more I learn about you, the greater my admiration.
Fern, after I read every link you posted, it, of course, takes time to scroll through all of the comments before I get to yours. The first post, from The Atlantic, was where my heart started beating a mile a minute. This was my father’s story. He was born and raised in Boryslav Poland. This village was pilfered through by the Bolsheviks, the Nazis, the Polish and Russian armies. His relatives died either in the fields or in the camps. This village, very similar to the one in “Fiddler On The Roof”, was rich in agriculture and oil. His grandfather, who raised him, owned land that had both. It was stolen out from under him and my father’s family like a in two seconds. The village is now part of the Ukrainian area where everybody speaks each other’s languages. My father was only taught Yiddish, growing up, but his grandfather saw the writing on the wall and enrolled my dad in a Catholic school. All of the Jewish boys had to stand up throughout the classes. He was humiliated but he learned Polish and a big of Russian. When he was able to come to America in 1938, he tried going through the American embassy to help him regain ownership of the land. Never was it to occur. He knew in his lifetime that he would not achieve that goal but thought maybe in our (my sister’s & mine) we just might. That is unlikely but I will give my girls this task as they are willing to pursue it. All I can say is that the article was extremely emotional for me. The writer had been to the area and even accompanied his mother. I have not had the opportunity to go there. Now I am wondering if I ever will get to. As always, Fern, thank you!
Marlene, your story is amazing, a book. You have the history which must be passed down, never forgotten. It is the story that is part of many, yet we don’t have access to every chapter. Thank you for making history as relevant today as the day it began.
Thank you, Irenie. Yes, I think we all have stories to tell. One of my daughters wants to do a documentary about my husband as he had a very tough childhood and then went to Vietnam. I guess I am really going to have to find the time to write what my folks experienced and how it affected them and my sister and I throughout the years. You also, have an interesting background.
Marlene, have you read the book, https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51231528, “I Want You to Know We’re Still Here, A post-Holocaust memoir” by Esther Safran Foer? She’s a writer, journalist, the mother of Franklin, Jonathan and Joshua Foer who have traveled with her to and written about Poland among other books. You can find out more online. Publisher: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/577021/i-want-you-to-know-were-still-here-by-esther-safran-foer/
Marlene, my heart goes out to you and to your father. The truth of your parents' lives lives on through you and through your heirs. It should not be forgotten -- it's so important to keep it alive ... to remember what was, what has been, and what will be in your lives.Yet the present and the future count, too; they complete the history that your father wanted for you and your siblings.
Thank you, Rowshan. My dad, a very self-learned man who worked very hard at a job he never enjoyed, but he was his own boss. He owned a clothing store along with my mother for over 25 years. He started writing his story down for my sister and I but unfortunately, dementia set in and many memories were lost. I try and keep whatever I know alive. We have our 2nd cousin, who is still alive, in his mid 80’s, who I really need to get information from. I haven’t spiken to him in years so I am praying he is still lucid.
I hope for your sake that you will be able to speak with your second cousin and find out more about about your dad and his past.
Marlene, I cried as your story unfolded. Our memories are alive as is the smell and feel of unrelenting tyranny. It falls upon us, the people held in the cauldron of dictators.
Mine is just one of many stories, Fern. I think of all the tyranny in our country that man has progressively caused. The treatment of black folks, Asians, Mexicans, Jews, women, and add gun violence. it’s maddening that it is still going on!! You are right though, there is a definitely a cauldron of dictators and many are are waiting in the wings. All set up by Leonard Leo and Company. I envision him and orhers sitting on their thrones somewhere, pulling levers and cackling like a gaggle of hens. Makes me shiver.
I’m terrified for the Ukrainian people. I haven’t been there but I met a beautiful Ukrainian woman on my last trip to Provence in February 2020. Luckily she had relocated to Forcalquier but I asked about her family and they are still there.
Liz, Your care is important. These people have suffered for centuries. They will need our help. When the time comes, please call your senators and representatives to let them know that we want to support the Ukrainian people. Thank you.
Yes, me too.
Much as I was terrified for the Iraqi people in 2003.
Fern,
Wow! Thanks for helping us get closer to the people of Ukraine. I have not gone through all of the links, but, looking out at the weather, I might get through them today.
The Atlantic, with journalist Anne Applebaum, seems committed to telling the full story of the Ukraine.
Thinking of all Ukrainians and how worried they must be! Thank you, dear Fern, for your husband's story and the important links. Now I understand why your heart is so profoundly compassionate.
Rowshan, Your care for others, respect and personal strength illuminate the forum. Thank you.
Namaste. Thank you for these kind words, Fern❣️
❤️🌍❤️
I agree with Fern. You are a great blessing here, Rowshan.
Awww! You're a pal, Roland! That's such a lovely thing to say. I'm so honored -- just look at where the compliments are coming from: our stars!
Thank you profoundly, Fern, for your comments, and for the important additional links to crucial information.
Thank you, Judith. We are all learning from one another. Salud!
Fern 💙.
trump should go to prison first of all for his mishandling and theft of classified materials from the white house to mar-a-lago. If he gets away with that with a slap on the wrist, it's a massive insult to the many thousands of military and civilian employees who have handled top secret material so responsibly.
Many years ago, I was in the Army and worked with classified material. All the men and women in my unit had top secret clearances with crypto access. I was told by an NCO that speaking ONE word about what we did could land us in prison for 20 years; and that's Ft. Leavenworth not some Club Fed. And that non-disclosure agreement lasted for 20 years after we left service. And trump took boxes of classified material home to mar-a-lago.
I'll bet trump was selling classified material to foreign governments or certainly some type of quid pro quo. Also, Jared Kushner was granted ultimate security clearance when he lied on the application form, and some 35+ security advisors and lawyers advised trump not to give that clearance. If we don't straighten this whole thing out, we're in even worse trouble than imagined.
The fact that tfg installed unqualified family members in key White House and government positions should be a scandal. Clearance was not instant.
Remember Mike Pence at the UN: "I have the honour to represent the President of the United States, Donald J Trump", and he waited for the applause. There was total silence.
Perfect! Wish I could have been there.
Yes, it was one villainous move after the other. His sycophants must have threatened many people.
I know. He just installed his favored family members. We're supposed to have a government composed with "checks and balances." But with trump, we rarely saw "checks" or "balances." Most of congress seemed afraid of him. He ruled and still does according to some corrupt reps. and senators.
I remember being shocked. Family members and later friends with zero experience in the positions they were assigned. Yes, Heydon, Seriously! No checks. No balances. But it was just one more example of his pre- presidential corrupt life. Not even hiding. The post office turned into a hotel for dignitaries? Emoluments? What’s that mean? And no consequences for breaking the law. Yet.
Jared is certainly a threat
He is insidious. I want to see a full accounting of his every business deal in the trump years. And then getting his father a full pardon through trump on top of it all.
"I'll bet trump was selling classified material to foreign governments or certainly some type of quid pro quo."
I will bet with you.
I'm part of that betting pool
So am I.
Me too. Almost certainly Middle East billionaires. Exhibit A as evidence: Zelensky and the first impeachment
Chump and company violated as many rules as they knew existed, deliberately and in plain sight. We all watched it…
"They let you do anything when you're a celebrity".
That is a trump truism. He actually warned us in advance and then fulfilled his dictum.
That's it. His crew were searching full-time for endless ways to profit from the presidential power. Yes, it was done deliberately and in plain sight. We watched the visible part of it, but I'm sure they got away with so much more.
It occurred to me too that tfg, the man without either morals or conscience, could be profiting from the material he stole. He clearly has no allegiance to the US.
So true. Absolutely no allegiance to the U.S. and Americans.
Yes, and then had his kids search out even more ways to loot.
" If he gets away with that with a slap on the wrist, it's a massive insult to the many thousands of military and civilian employees who have handled top secret material so responsibly."
Let us see if he even gets a "slap on the wrist". I do have my doubts.
If he doesn't even get a slap on the wrist, it exposes our whole government as weak and absurd.
Heydon, I feel it exposes the entire American culture and racial heirarchy for what it really is: A system setup to enable mediocre white men to become fantastically sucessful while holding down everyone else of talent.
My notion was it was his hedge against utter penury...that his plans were to sell them when the auction hammer came down on all his "property".
I think he probably considered them as a revenue source all along.
Unfortunately I didn’t even know Biden was giving a speech today and I imagine many other Americans were u aware of this as well. One of the unfortunate consequences of the proliferation of media we have available is that we become siloed. When I was a child we have a choice of five or six TV stations and when the President have an important address, all programs were preempted. That’s no longer the case and unless one is listening or watching live media we might not know about events of importance.
Yup.
there is a White House facebook site.
Yep. Where is Walter Cronkite when we need him?
Fewer and fewer independent media exist...and the rest are owned by conservatives. And even farther to the right, the misnamed Fox "News" bears heavy responsibility for the distorted negative view "the base" has of the United States and, conversely, the worshipful view it has of the former president. In the last few days, my FB feed has been filled with ads for "Let's Go, Brandon" apparel and glowing statements about the former president. I hope many are bots but I doubt all are.
Thank you for this amazing recap. Yes, a lot has been happening in the last few weeks. Trying to maintain perspective on it all. I hadn’t thought about the fact, till you noted here, that perhaps President Biden was speaking again from the US as the leader of the free world -that would be a welcome return of international standing.
It seems like a big turning point day. Keep breathing, everyone!
A chance to exhale after holding our breath. Thank you for solidarity everywhere against authoritarianism…. Including this forum with Professor Richardson. To even have a chuckle in a serious letter chock full of stories with a common thread. When she paused and added a little salt common to historians when records become inaccessible or willfully altered in some way or destroyed. I quote, “But her emails.”
Oh HCR. Hahahahahhaha. I love a little salt.
🧂
Don’t we all love a little salt—and yes I love that interjection—but her emails…..
Oh, the caterwauling about possible national security breach with private server and her emails, and mere months in office brings Lavrov and Kislyak INTO the Oval Office ALONE with trump, using his own PRIVATE unsecured cell phone. Not to mention trying to set up BACK CHANNEL comms to Russia in basement of trump tower during campaign! The hypocrisy party makes my hair hurt.
I remember it all, sad that Fox watchers never knew it at all…
“Makes my hair hurt.” Perfectly put, Cary, and so true.
Yeh - I really wanted that mug! But Australia doesn't exist on their mailing list.
From your lips to the goddesses' ears! 😊
It seems to me a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago and all electronic devices owned by Trump, his family, and staff, including copy machines, is justified and should be carried out immediately. We should assume that copies of the material in question now reside in a secure file cabinet in the Kremlin.
And Donald J. Trump should be under arrest for violation of espionage laws.
All together now; “Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!”
Yes, a search warrant without warning. No knock.
A no knock warrant..I like it! And if he pulls a gun, shoot the son of a b.... ! Seems to me it's pretty easy to get away with murder that way.
Pam, this is the first time I’ve seen you post, and I like you already‼️
... and make the S.O.B. a martyr??
Sadly, that much is true. His worshipping cultists would NEVER let the matter rest.
Ralph,
It would seem that locking up Trump is something that America is not really organized to do.
However, we do have Angola prison, that former slave plantation, down in Alabama, where, I think it is still legal to use prisoners to pick cotton.
Angola to make sure that if a black man steals a loaf of bread from the 7-11 to feed his starving family, because there are no jobs for black folks, he gets properly locked up to pick cotton in the summer.
It worked before: "Vote him out! Vote him out! Vote him out!"
I was irritated with the reporters who were complaining about verification of the US intelligence claims. Once burned, and all that [Colin Powell]. But to me, it was all for an audience of one, Mr. Putin. As Tony Blinken quickly reminded folks, we’re trying to STOP a war, not start one. Neutralizing the disinformation and exposing the cyber warfare and false flagging may hobble the roll-out.
There's a lot of absurd whataboutism going around. It borders on the irrational.
Whataboutism? Irrational? Russian bots? Do elaborate.
I've seen media questioning U.S. motives in Ukraine because of its past wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan. NPR has repeatedly raised questions about whether Biden is being provocative by focusing attention on Russian attempts at provocation.
Do YOU believe Biden is being "provocative?" I don't. After Biden's speech today, someone pointed out how he reinforced the values of democracy, in helping Ukraine's sovereignty to be respected. One of the ways he has been doing this is to reveal intelligence analysis to hobble or frustrate the well-established pattern of Putin's disinformation and false-flagging campaigns.
I think Biden is doing exactly what he needs to do. By revealing Putin's disinformation and fans-flag operations, Biden is undercutting these tactics. NPR's "Morning Edition" twice this week has tried to leave the impression that Biden is making matters worse, which is absurd.
I am beginning to despise NPR with their relentless "both sides" baloney, kowtowing to corporate support.
NPR has been, in some ways, the soundtrack of my life for many years. That's because the Portland NPR affiliate, KOPB, does excellent work. My wife and I help support it financially. with monthly contributions. During OPB's recent fund drive, I considered reducing or stopping the payments because of NPR's decline in quality journalism. When I'm driving I find myself swearing at some of the crap I hear.
Might be a Republican talking point.
Which program?
"Morning Edition," especially Monday this week. New host Leila Fadel.
I'm hoping/praying that Putin will take the hint and only do a minor attack to save face and strut away like he won WWIII. Wildly spinning the narrative, no doubt. Putin, not content to be czar of Muscovy, wants desperately to gather all 15 former Soviet states back--because without the former territorial acquisitions of the Soviet regime...Moscow doesn't amount to much.
Colin Powell, as we all know, will lie for the Republican Party.
BIG lies.
? He died last year.
Putin wants to prove to Ukrainians that NATO cannot protect them and wants to crush their democratic movement. And he wants to take back territory once controlled by the Russian Empire and then the Soviet Union.
Just as Hitler resented the Trianon treaties at the end of WW1, Putin resents the treaties at the end of the Cold War.
If Trump were in office, you can be darn sure he and his Republican facilitators and synchofants would have the FBI taking Bill and Hillary Clinton into custody if NARA found boxes of Whitehouse and classified records at their private home.
Just like the Russian aggression against Ukraine, we have a world of double standards. One set of, or more correctly no set of standards for bullies, law breakers and people of privilege, and a well defined, enforceable and enforced set of standards for everyone else. We see this throughout our Jim Crow South. We see this with white privilege. We see this with "pro-life" people with guns. The examples are endless, and they are promoted on social media, by talking heads like Joe Rogan, by FOX. We live in a very dangerous time where all of our resources are spent navigating this jungle rather than providing for people and our shared future.
Isn’t that essentially the difference though between those of us who believe in and want a democracy and those that want an authoritarian tyranny? We treat others as we wish to be treated. We’re striving to be more than just a wild pack of vicious, angry animals all fighting thru any means possible to just be the alpha at the top.
Correct. A woman would have been arrested immediately. Or Obama. But.....?
It would seem that locking up Trump is something that America is not really organized to do.
However, we do have Angola prison, that former slave plantation, down in Alabama, where, I think it is still legal to use prisoners to pick cotton.
Angola to make sure that if a black man steals a loaf of bread from the 7-11 to feed his starving family, because there are no jobs for black folks, he gets properly locked up to pick cotton in the summer.
A very sober and accurate observation. Thank you David. 🏆
"NARA “has also learned that some White House staff conducted official business using non-official messaging accounts that were not copied or forwarded into their official electronic messaging accounts,”
Reporting on this goes back to 2017 and through 2019. "The New York Times had reported that at least six officials, including former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, former strategist Steve Bannon, and aides Stephen Miller and Gary Cohn, had used personal accounts for at least some official business."
Members of Trump's administration and family - bit of an overlap there - ignored NSA guidelines and negligently and purposefully by-passed official servers which automatically archive communications.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/us/politics/jared-kushner-whatsapp.html
It would seem that locking up Trump is something that America is not really organized to do.
However, we do have Angola prison, that former slave plantation, down in Alabama, where, I think it is still legal to use prisoners to pick cotton.
Angola to make sure that if a black man steals a loaf of bread from the 7-11 to feed his starving family, because there are no jobs for black folks, he gets properly locked up to pick cotton in the summer.
Thanks, Mike. Your wording here clarifies a great deal for me.; Indeed, a big part of the problem is that "America is not really organized" to lock up Trump.
No. it is not.
Yes, our system does not do much to indict, try, convict, and punish rich white men who commit white collar crimes.
Angola is a Louisiana maximum security prison. So I think Trump would have to be prosecuted for crimes in Louisiana. In New York there are Sing Sing and Attica, so he might be sent 'up the river where he belongs.'
I think Federal transfer across state lines to Angola would be in order.
:-)
But what about Her emails!
"It's pretty remarkable how far the US intel community has come in counter-active measures efforts in the last few years. The analysis paralysis of the past has been replaced by an intentional workstream declassifying intel to expose plans before they're set in motion. Kudos.
February 18th 2022". Chris Krebs' tweet. How many are the "last few years"? If that means "since 2017", it's no surprise to hear that there was "an analysis paralysis". It was noticeably enforced - the paralysis, that is. The truth, even shredded, is now being carried out in boxes.
Anne -Louise “ The truth, even shredded, is now being carried out in boxes.” YES!
There once was a salty historian
Who found documents one could but glory in
But that didn't measure
Up to the pleasure
From driving her time-trav'lin' DeLorean
🥰
And through all of this, the Republicans fail to mention that both George W and DJT had personal servers just like Hillary's and that GWB DELETED over 1/2 a million emails from that server. With DJTs penchant for destroying documents and his socialmediaaccounts, how many did he delete. AND Hillary's have all been pored over, sanitized and declared a non-issue by all the top security agencies 'lo these many years. AND they probably cost her the election. What did it cost GWB or tRUMP?
The thing about the emails that still haunts me--other than just the Great American Industry of Hating Hilary--is the headline, streamed across the front page of every major newspaper as if the conclusion were obvious--"FBI Re-Opens Investigation Into Clinton Emails." There are all sorts of factors that contributed to the outcome of that election, but that particular way of handling that particular piece of information at just that particular moment in time had a very large impact.