He’s just a symbol of the collective consciousness that was brewing anyway. It’s now had the light shone on it. He is not the problem. He’s just the logo.
He’s just a symbol of the collective consciousness that was brewing anyway. It’s now had the light shone on it. He is not the problem. He’s just the logo.
Absolutely agree. When he won it was a wake up call of the peril. That so many voted for him a second time... There is a dangerous ugliness that has settled into the soil of America. Growing.
The confederacy, just a part of the white supremacy mindset in the US, lives on in the hearts of a country that has never told itself or its children the sordid truth of its founding.
Rosalind - they could be told and it would not matter very much IMO. We find this week in the hate crime trial that the perpetrators of the Armond Arbury killing indeed have exhibited plenty of racist rhetoric and behavior prior to the murder. Duh. Anybody surprised? Not me. I see it in my own family. Anyone who has lived in the deep south (I certainly have), knows just how pervasive racism against blacks has been, and to only a slightly less extent, still is. It colors everything; not a day goes by where the average Georgia whitey doesn't at least mutter some derogatory word about blacks. It is a fundamental component of white peoples' psyches - something that doesn't seem to go away. In too many anyway. Well that element of human behavior is alive and well not just in the deep south - it's just more overt and more concentrated there. And I believe that racism is a very important element of the Trump appeal nationwide. He exploited it just as he has exploited religion to jazz up the religious right. As a result these people became emboldened. It is evil, corrupt, soulless. I am afraid that as long as racism is alive and well in this country, we are going to have to contend with Trumpy people at the voting booth and Trumpy people in power. The best thing to do IMO, is what we did to the south in the civil war. And that is to forcefully beat them into submission and keep them there. That can be done in the voting booth and also in the department of justice. Only this time don't let them sneak back into power. For this reason, it is time for our Democratic controlled government to stick it to the perpetrators of the insurrection - the evidence is obvious. Give them what they deserve. Perhaps more racists will crawl back under the rocks they were hiding under before Trump won in 2016.
Jay, I’m a native Georgian, and have long referred to racists as the roaches that crawled out of the woodwork. But here’s the thing. The Tangerine Terrorist didn’t start this. The Tea Party and its advocates did, in 2008. Suddenly, it was A-OK to say the quiet parts out loud, not to mention stringing up the president in effigy in front of a gas station, or a church. By the time 2016 rolled around, the seedbed had been well fertilized by rampant racism against a man who DARED to president while black. These idiots were scared s***less that their supremacy was at stake, and they still are. Trump was just another load of manure.
AND...while Georgians are holding forth...in an area that is still overwhelmingly pro-T***p, it must be noted that a large proportion of them may not use the N-word per se, but the new monikers are "hoodlum" or "thug". And then around here, they will tack on "Atlanta" before it, since all these hoodlums and thugs, of course, are coming up from Atlanta to prey on us. Uh-huh...right. There are sites aplenty one can go to and read this kind of language, one of the worst being the "NextDoor" one. I use it for its practical side (things for sale, businesses and individuals to refer to for services, etc.), but the right-wing trolls do regularly show up and turn even the more benign topics into politics. (It's also remarkable to read it and see what people do to the English language...) Now I'm reading more and more about people who are moving here from other parts of the country because "...people around here still love America and have the right kinds of values..." and crap like that. The bulk of the people I keep in my circle are like-minded, so we kind of keep a low profile, but it is galling when you still see evidence of so much hatred and ignorance and feel surrounded by it.
Jay, my great grandfather's gravestone in the Palatka, FLA "White" cemetery proudly boasts, "A Lover of Christ and a Friend to his Fellow Man." The footing boasts in large letters: KKK. 200-plus years of white racists in my maternal family. I agree with what you say. Believe me, as we say in the South, you're preaching to the choir.
I’ve been thinking about trump as a logo. The discontent has been there. He’s just found a way to monetize it - for his personal benefit, of course. How terribly sad that his most successful use of branding (think unsuccessful steaks, wine, university) has been to undermine our democracy.
Speaking of logos, Josh Halsey is selling a coffe mug with his infamous 1)6 photo complete w/ fist raised high in a solidarity with the rioters. Anything for attention and profit!
More profit (and cover) being president than running casinos, a university, prime time contests, or selling steaks and wine. Regulation you can ignore with impunity, free advertisement, and income that gets laundered at government expense. Perfect business model. And you breed an endless stream of customers without ever having to create an actual product. And, finally you get Congress to stand behind you all the way and a Supreme Court to rewrite the constitutionality of the Model for perpetuity. Couldn't be better. Yep, Raskin is write. Institutionalized Authoritarianism.
He may fit the politicians who are Republican right now but Disagree with you that he fits all Republicans. It’s so easy to throw everyone in a basket. I know a lot of great Republicans who want the same things I do, Who are good solid people and who care about others deeply.
So the barrel I am talking about is those who put and kept Trump in power and would do so again - no matter how he might offend their image of themselves. Or as Clinton said 'the deplorables.'
There are many good solid caring Republicans who had to hold their collective nose to vote for Trump, for the sake of what they most profoundly care about - guns, zygotes, the primacy of religious creed, GOP small government, dominating the Supreme Court.
There were Republicans who voted for Biden. But not enough.
He’s just a symbol of the collective consciousness that was brewing anyway. It’s now had the light shone on it. He is not the problem. He’s just the logo.
Absolutely agree. When he won it was a wake up call of the peril. That so many voted for him a second time... There is a dangerous ugliness that has settled into the soil of America. Growing.
Yes. As I said last week, Tr. is the Pandora who opened the box of the ugliness that is destroying our ever-fragile democracy.
Can I resist?
Growing. Fertilized by a whole lot of right wing BS being spread around.
and watered by money from oligarchs, foreign and domestic
The confederacy, just a part of the white supremacy mindset in the US, lives on in the hearts of a country that has never told itself or its children the sordid truth of its founding.
Rosalind - they could be told and it would not matter very much IMO. We find this week in the hate crime trial that the perpetrators of the Armond Arbury killing indeed have exhibited plenty of racist rhetoric and behavior prior to the murder. Duh. Anybody surprised? Not me. I see it in my own family. Anyone who has lived in the deep south (I certainly have), knows just how pervasive racism against blacks has been, and to only a slightly less extent, still is. It colors everything; not a day goes by where the average Georgia whitey doesn't at least mutter some derogatory word about blacks. It is a fundamental component of white peoples' psyches - something that doesn't seem to go away. In too many anyway. Well that element of human behavior is alive and well not just in the deep south - it's just more overt and more concentrated there. And I believe that racism is a very important element of the Trump appeal nationwide. He exploited it just as he has exploited religion to jazz up the religious right. As a result these people became emboldened. It is evil, corrupt, soulless. I am afraid that as long as racism is alive and well in this country, we are going to have to contend with Trumpy people at the voting booth and Trumpy people in power. The best thing to do IMO, is what we did to the south in the civil war. And that is to forcefully beat them into submission and keep them there. That can be done in the voting booth and also in the department of justice. Only this time don't let them sneak back into power. For this reason, it is time for our Democratic controlled government to stick it to the perpetrators of the insurrection - the evidence is obvious. Give them what they deserve. Perhaps more racists will crawl back under the rocks they were hiding under before Trump won in 2016.
Jay, I’m a native Georgian, and have long referred to racists as the roaches that crawled out of the woodwork. But here’s the thing. The Tangerine Terrorist didn’t start this. The Tea Party and its advocates did, in 2008. Suddenly, it was A-OK to say the quiet parts out loud, not to mention stringing up the president in effigy in front of a gas station, or a church. By the time 2016 rolled around, the seedbed had been well fertilized by rampant racism against a man who DARED to president while black. These idiots were scared s***less that their supremacy was at stake, and they still are. Trump was just another load of manure.
AND...while Georgians are holding forth...in an area that is still overwhelmingly pro-T***p, it must be noted that a large proportion of them may not use the N-word per se, but the new monikers are "hoodlum" or "thug". And then around here, they will tack on "Atlanta" before it, since all these hoodlums and thugs, of course, are coming up from Atlanta to prey on us. Uh-huh...right. There are sites aplenty one can go to and read this kind of language, one of the worst being the "NextDoor" one. I use it for its practical side (things for sale, businesses and individuals to refer to for services, etc.), but the right-wing trolls do regularly show up and turn even the more benign topics into politics. (It's also remarkable to read it and see what people do to the English language...) Now I'm reading more and more about people who are moving here from other parts of the country because "...people around here still love America and have the right kinds of values..." and crap like that. The bulk of the people I keep in my circle are like-minded, so we kind of keep a low profile, but it is galling when you still see evidence of so much hatred and ignorance and feel surrounded by it.
I came to metro Atlanta in 1995 thinking I was moving to the "New South." I was wrong, with some, but nowhere near enough, exceptions.
Jay, my great grandfather's gravestone in the Palatka, FLA "White" cemetery proudly boasts, "A Lover of Christ and a Friend to his Fellow Man." The footing boasts in large letters: KKK. 200-plus years of white racists in my maternal family. I agree with what you say. Believe me, as we say in the South, you're preaching to the choir.
True. Trump creates chaos. But for the rest, he just put his brand/logo on the GOP. Trump fits Republicans to a T.
I’ve been thinking about trump as a logo. The discontent has been there. He’s just found a way to monetize it - for his personal benefit, of course. How terribly sad that his most successful use of branding (think unsuccessful steaks, wine, university) has been to undermine our democracy.
Speaking of logos, Josh Halsey is selling a coffe mug with his infamous 1)6 photo complete w/ fist raised high in a solidarity with the rioters. Anything for attention and profit!
Entirely unrepentant tassel loafer insurrectionist.
More profit (and cover) being president than running casinos, a university, prime time contests, or selling steaks and wine. Regulation you can ignore with impunity, free advertisement, and income that gets laundered at government expense. Perfect business model. And you breed an endless stream of customers without ever having to create an actual product. And, finally you get Congress to stand behind you all the way and a Supreme Court to rewrite the constitutionality of the Model for perpetuity. Couldn't be better. Yep, Raskin is write. Institutionalized Authoritarianism.
Brilliant.
He may fit the politicians who are Republican right now but Disagree with you that he fits all Republicans. It’s so easy to throw everyone in a basket. I know a lot of great Republicans who want the same things I do, Who are good solid people and who care about others deeply.
So the barrel I am talking about is those who put and kept Trump in power and would do so again - no matter how he might offend their image of themselves. Or as Clinton said 'the deplorables.'
There are many good solid caring Republicans who had to hold their collective nose to vote for Trump, for the sake of what they most profoundly care about - guns, zygotes, the primacy of religious creed, GOP small government, dominating the Supreme Court.
There were Republicans who voted for Biden. But not enough.
Logo - great if unattractive way to describe him.