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Mike S's avatar

Fern, one of the very best predictors of the future is the past.

Trump has been a well known crook in NY City his entire adult life, and, has had accounting firms lying for him his entire life and.....

Trump has never been charged with a single crime, in fact, the NY DA was never interested until AFTER he moved to Florida.

Trump was operating as a criminal and everyone knew it for 35 years.

So, given that history, what do you predict for Trump's future??

Also, WHY was Trump never charged even though the NY Post routinely wrote articles about his law breaking???

Because, all those reasons are still there.

Trump is not going to jail Fern. He has not even been charged with anything.

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Ally House (Oregon)'s avatar

Greg Olear writes some compelling information about how tRump is a Soviet (and I use the term intentionally) pawn. He's also a malignant narcissist. I believe he'll self destruct before there is any hope of accountability (read: prosecution).

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Mike S's avatar

Trump's son openly admitted to a reporter that "they got all the money they needed from Russia" in buying two Scottish Golf Courses.

So, EVEN when one's blood relative openly admits to a reporter, who then publishes the fact that Trump was laundering Russian money into Golf courses, Trump is not charged or otherwise bothered by the law.

In fact, he became President of these United States with a great following of LOVE among LAW ENFORCEMENT people.

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Ally House (Oregon)'s avatar

I can only speak for the local level of law enforcement, and tell you that you're not wrong about 2/3 of the rank and file (in my admittedly small, and unscientific statistical sample). There was an "R" after his name in the ballot. I must have had a dozen friends say that they "held their nose and voted for him" who had quit holding their noses and voted for him in 2020.

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

Ugh! People became blind and deaf when it came to TFG. They still are. They don’t realize that they have been given a huge cup of bullshit to drink. Led like sheep, by their noses, to a cliff.

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Grace Kennedy's avatar

It’s all so tribal and macho and white, and that power is slip slip slipping away from them because of it.

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Mike S's avatar

Yep. Trump, the law and order President.

Now the word most appropriate for that?

Guffaw.

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Nancy Fleming's avatar

I've always believed that he's been programmed and supported by Putin. He is just not bright enough to have done all of his destruction by himself. I'm also hopeful that the intense pressures coming at him from all sides will end up destroying him. Let's hope.

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Barbara Mullen's avatar

Manchurian candidate?

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Mike S's avatar

Well, Trump is too unpredictable to be a reliable Manchurian candidate.

However, if he can concentrate long enough for Putin to tell him what to do, then, yes.

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Rosalind Gnatt's avatar

Al Capone was sent to jail for tax evasion. I enjoyed reading into Wiki's introduction: "Donald Trump was an American gangster and businessman who attained notoriety during the Covid pandemic era as the co-founder and boss of a large part of the Republican Party. His seven-year reign as a crime boss ended when he went to prison at the age of 75." .... just dreaming, Mike.

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Stephen from Sunny Seattle's avatar

Sweet dreams are made of this...

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Rosalind Gnatt's avatar

I know the song...

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MaryPat's avatar

This one will! tRump will be Al Caponed!

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Sharon Dequaine's avatar

Mike, please let us dance in expectation of him being paraded naked in the street before you rain on our parade. I do fear you are correct but let us dance a bit.

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Mike S's avatar

Sharon. My apology. My kids say I am always the guy bringing a suitcase full of reality to an otherwise good party.

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JDinTX's avatar

My cross to bear also.

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Barbara Mullen's avatar

You are most likely right Mike. But we all do enjoy seeing the legal pile on. Think trump is sweating any of this?

Once again the pattern continues. When the law gets too close people like trump and jordan start screeching and the rest like hawley keep their mouths shut. (Except for Hawley obstructing critical appointees).

and I never say this but here goes. These are really dark times.

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Mike S's avatar

"Think trump is sweating any of this?"

No, I think Trump acts as if he is invincible to the law. Because, he has every reason and data set supporting that approach.

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FERN MCBRIDE (NYC)'s avatar

Mike, You got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning; you're also making up things. I never wrote that he was going to jail. Trump will be stark naked in a barrel falling into Niagara Falls. Got the picture now?

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Mike S's avatar

Fern! Actually, I did not understand the reference to naked in a barrel and thought it meant jail. I did not think about him naked in a barrel going over Niagra Falls. My apology.

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FERN MCBRIDE (NYC)'s avatar

So, isn't this the best punishment? Think of the photos we will treasure and pass on!

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MaryPat's avatar

Eeuuuww!! Thanks Fern.

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Jack Lippman (FL-NY-NJ)'s avatar

Agree that, come what may, he ain't going to jail. All of Mike's reasons are still there because enough people in NY's government and real estate communities went along with not doing anything ... and today want to avoid being considered his accomplices. Also, fear of the civil strife his present-day extremist supporters would cause if he were indicted protects him. But eventually, they will find another leader as the defeated former president rots away on whatever corner of Mar-a-Lago remains after his lenders call in his IOU's. He might pitch a tent there, if zoning permits it.

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Rosalind Gnatt's avatar

You're correct. In my real estate brokerage years, I was appalled at the lack of principle, as brokers frantically lapped up the gains from foreign investors buying Trump properties.

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Judy White's avatar

Well, Mar a Lago was built although the city had said it could not be built!

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Jack Lippman (FL-NY-NJ)'s avatar

Mar-a-Lago was built by Marjorie Merriweather Post, heiress to the Post Cereal fortune, a century ago. On her death, she left it as a historic landmark to the US gov't which couldn't afford to maintain it, gave it back, and it fell into the hands of the defeated former president during the 1980's. Over the years, he managed to get the place licensed as a private club and catering joint as a way of maintaining it. The Town of Palm Beach went along with it since it was a landmark and not doing so would have resulted in its destruction. Contrary to the nearby City of West Palm Beach, a very urban place, the Town of Palm Beach is inhabited by unbelievably wealthy people. The defeated former president never was accepted by them as more than the owner of a catering establishment. Many of the uber-wealthy of Palm Beach donate generously locally to museums, hospitals, concert halls, the opera, theatre and numerous charities. The defeated former president was never counted among them. I suspect most, including the Koch's, would be glad to see him go.

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Barbara D. Reed's avatar

Especially if TFG gets to be broadly known as an associate of the Koch family.

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Barbara D. Reed's avatar

Given the neighborhood, I expect there are rules against pitching tents.

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Jack Lippman (FL-NY-NJ)'s avatar

Agree ... No tents permitted. Ultimately, the place will be torn down and divided into generously-sized individual lots selling for twenty or thirty million dollars each. The estate of the defeated former president will need the money to pay off their creditors.

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EssBee's avatar

I fear this is true. The underlying corruption hasn't changed, really, at all. Trump can take too many other well heeled crooks with him.

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Dick Montagne's avatar

Our prisons have plenty of room for all of them and if not we can always build more.

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Mike S's avatar

Trump has been an open, blatant crook his entire life and always untouchable.

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MaryPat's avatar

Several writers suggest tRump has been protected over the decades as an informant for the FBI. I'm thinking he is done informing.

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FERN MCBRIDE (NYC)'s avatar

…finished, caput!

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MaryPat's avatar

Always loved the sound of that word: ca-put!

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MaryPat's avatar

Mafia in New York, but ya, MISinformed.

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Kathleen Allen's avatar

🤨🧐🤐🙄🤨

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EssBee's avatar

I hope your prayers work. I'd love to be wrong.

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Joyce's avatar

I totally agree!!! We may yet see the entire Trump family in orange jumpsuits 🤗

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Mike S's avatar

Sophia, I assume your prayers are Greek Orthodox ones. :-)

My wife is Greek. She is not sure about her prayers and Trump. He seems invincible to all potential threats.

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H.H. Rose's avatar

Al Capone and John , the Teflon Don, Gotti also seemed invincible.

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Judith Swink (CA)'s avatar

Note that H. R. Rose's verb is past tense - *seemed* invincible. So, take heart & hope that -as put by someone here put it - that tfg will be "Capone'd" at the very least.

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MaryPat's avatar

Heck, I believe. Channel surfing one day, I "accidentally" stopped at PBS where some nicely dressed church lady was instructing viewers to "Ask for 3 Signs and a Miracle every week." Ya right. Guess What! It works! Don't know for sure if there is a God or a Devil, but I am pretty sure there is "The Great Irish Tea Party in the Sky" where my female relatives in the Great Beyond humor me. They always were a witty bunch, so I must be very careful what I ask for! Fun! And always wonder-full.

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Sheila B (MN)'s avatar

Great Irish tea Party in the Sky! So THAT’s what Grandma and my aunties are up to…I hear near constant tittering after asking for help. 🤣

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MaryPat's avatar

That's it! The aunties tittering! Maggie and Delia and Anna!

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MaryPat's avatar

They surely do. All the Best with your books!

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Barbara D. Reed's avatar

There are plenty of activists out there taking action, including this 70 year old one.

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Mike S's avatar

Sophia, very good. Cancer free is very good and your ask your mother to send prayers. :-)

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MaryPat's avatar

YES! tRump shall be Al Caponed!!

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Patricia Andrews (WA)'s avatar

Therer’s such a delicious double entendre in Al Caponed — we all know what a capon is, right?

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MaryPat's avatar

😂

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Julie M Murray's avatar

I hope you are right!!!

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JDinTX's avatar

Waiting…

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Patty. Dubin's avatar

Trump offers to pay these people off and when he doesn't come through, they can not complain because of their wrongdoings. People have lost their sense of right and wrong. Trumps accountants can only work with the numbers trump gives them.

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Irenie's avatar

Sophia, if you’re bringing GOD and the DEVIL into this conversation, then that means, I, too, will have to PRAY. All those TFG followers must be in church today.

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