Your last paragraph is totally true, Tom, but voting for a third party candidate gives you a sense of honor and defiance. You are also wasting a vote and a vote in the next election is a precious thing. Please reconsider and choose the lesser of your 2 evils.
Your last paragraph is totally true, Tom, but voting for a third party candidate gives you a sense of honor and defiance. You are also wasting a vote and a vote in the next election is a precious thing. Please reconsider and choose the lesser of your 2 evils.
No, voting for a candidate that most aligns with the policy agenda that
I think would be best for the country is an expression of democracy. I don’t give a damn about honor or defiance; your Dr. Phil armchair analysis is laughable.
Get off of your sanctimonious high horse about wasting a vote. It’s a repulsive, anti-democracy mindset, especially coming from one purporting to having a desire to ‘save’ democracy.
No, sorry. Sanctimonious high horse people don’t accuse others of wasting their vote, so that can’t be me. Happy New Year to you as well. It’s going to be an interesting year, that’s a given.
Tom, respectfully, you are bright enough to know that it is possible to waste a vote and in fact, to do more damage than good. Frankly, it's a simple process involving the lesser of two evils. Throwing away a vote could get you the worst, such as in 2000 when Ralph Nader's candidacy cost Al Gore the win in Florida, giving the presidency to Bush. Look at the disaster that followed: Iraq and the near depression that resulted.
No. No. A thousand times no. What cost the Dems were…. wait for it, registered Democratic voters who voted for Bush, in a vote total that dwarfed Nader’s numbers.
If Gore wins Tennessee, his home state, he wins the election. If he doesn’t put Clinton in the closet because of Monica, he probably wins. If he doesn’t pick a Republican as a running mate, he probably wins. If his assembled team in Florida contesting the election result cared about winning the messaging war as much as the GOP suits/thugs did, he probably wins. And if he spoke truths about the illegitimacy of the SCOTUS decision post-Bush inauguration, he probably kills Dubya’s second term, though Kerry’s clueless response to being Swift Boated might still have carried the day to another Dem loss they had no business losing.
One more time; lesser evil voting by Democrats is what brought us Trump. Dems need to start thinking long term, instead of focusing narrowly on the next election cycle. The ratchet effect is real, and has shifted the political landscape/Overton Window to the right since Reagan, election by election, regardless of whether Democrats happen to win, or hold Congress.
Respectfully, every vote cast for a Democratic candidate for President since Mondale has been a wasted vote, because every Democratic candidate who has won has betrayed FDR’s vision of a Party aligned with a working class base, and made it more likely to alienate voters who used to identify as Democrats, by caring more about donors than working people. And as long as we’re talking wasted votes, anyone who didn’t vote for Sanders in the Dem primaries in ‘16-20 wasted their vote, because they voted for incremental pragmatism in the face of economic and climate catastrophe, either out of fear or cowardice.
Tom, without a doubt, one must choose one's fights carefully, just as one must cast one's votes wisely. The obvious normally only comes into focus until after the fact.
Your last paragraph is totally true, Tom, but voting for a third party candidate gives you a sense of honor and defiance. You are also wasting a vote and a vote in the next election is a precious thing. Please reconsider and choose the lesser of your 2 evils.
No, voting for a candidate that most aligns with the policy agenda that
I think would be best for the country is an expression of democracy. I don’t give a damn about honor or defiance; your Dr. Phil armchair analysis is laughable.
Get off of your sanctimonious high horse about wasting a vote. It’s a repulsive, anti-democracy mindset, especially coming from one purporting to having a desire to ‘save’ democracy.
If anyone is on a” sanctimonious high horse” it’s you. Happy New Year.
No, sorry. Sanctimonious high horse people don’t accuse others of wasting their vote, so that can’t be me. Happy New Year to you as well. It’s going to be an interesting year, that’s a given.
Tom, respectfully, you are bright enough to know that it is possible to waste a vote and in fact, to do more damage than good. Frankly, it's a simple process involving the lesser of two evils. Throwing away a vote could get you the worst, such as in 2000 when Ralph Nader's candidacy cost Al Gore the win in Florida, giving the presidency to Bush. Look at the disaster that followed: Iraq and the near depression that resulted.
No. No. A thousand times no. What cost the Dems were…. wait for it, registered Democratic voters who voted for Bush, in a vote total that dwarfed Nader’s numbers.
If Gore wins Tennessee, his home state, he wins the election. If he doesn’t put Clinton in the closet because of Monica, he probably wins. If he doesn’t pick a Republican as a running mate, he probably wins. If his assembled team in Florida contesting the election result cared about winning the messaging war as much as the GOP suits/thugs did, he probably wins. And if he spoke truths about the illegitimacy of the SCOTUS decision post-Bush inauguration, he probably kills Dubya’s second term, though Kerry’s clueless response to being Swift Boated might still have carried the day to another Dem loss they had no business losing.
One more time; lesser evil voting by Democrats is what brought us Trump. Dems need to start thinking long term, instead of focusing narrowly on the next election cycle. The ratchet effect is real, and has shifted the political landscape/Overton Window to the right since Reagan, election by election, regardless of whether Democrats happen to win, or hold Congress.
Respectfully, every vote cast for a Democratic candidate for President since Mondale has been a wasted vote, because every Democratic candidate who has won has betrayed FDR’s vision of a Party aligned with a working class base, and made it more likely to alienate voters who used to identify as Democrats, by caring more about donors than working people. And as long as we’re talking wasted votes, anyone who didn’t vote for Sanders in the Dem primaries in ‘16-20 wasted their vote, because they voted for incremental pragmatism in the face of economic and climate catastrophe, either out of fear or cowardice.
How do like them wasted vote apples?
Tom, without a doubt, one must choose one's fights carefully, just as one must cast one's votes wisely. The obvious normally only comes into focus until after the fact.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Same to you, my brother! It sure portends to be one of the more interesting ones in my 71 years on this earth.