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Gina's avatar

I agree our political

Parties have flaws but the Republicans emphasis on making the country great by saving white supremacy, ignoring climate change, controlling women and in general oppressing people who they deem different means there are not “fine people on both sides”.

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Tom High's avatar

No argument the GOP is worse. But that’s a mighty low bar.

Race - The Democratic Party refuses to support a commission to even study reparations much less support the concept itself. It reneged on a promise to retire student debt for HBCU grads.

Climate - The Dems refuse to support the ‘leave it in the ground’ strategy, coupled with the renewables moon shot agenda necessary to seriously address the issue.

Women - Which party was it in ‘08-10 that controlled Congress and the White House and refused to legislatively codify Roe when it had the chance?

If the advocates of the Democratic Party would put half the energy they use demonizing the GOP and its supporters into pressuring their own elected officials to do the right thing for working people and the poor instead of bending over to corporate donors, we might put an end to the election ratchet effect that ensures governmental dysfunction.

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Gina's avatar

Sorry but the racism and violence that Republicans proudly promote trump (pun intended) the Democrats' reticence to deal with racism. Racism goes way beyond student debt and reparations. It's an everyday existential threat to people of color-especially Black folks who've had to endure the impact of America's choice to practice racism for centuries.

Once again, imho there are not fine people on both sides.

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Tom High's avatar

So some people are fine, and others are deplorable. Gotcha. And so we get lesser evil voting. Gotcha. Which does occur on both sides, because while your side is fine, the other side thinks they are fine, and you are deplorable. So they lesser evil vote, too. And both parties are owned by donors, so between the ownership and the lesser evil voting, nothing gets fixed.

Yes, racism goes beyond reparations and student debt. But racism can’t be decoupled from economic class warfare in the U.S., because that is what created our American racism. If it is the existential threat you suggest, then why won’t Democrats address the economic class issue (thank you, capitalism) in a meaningful way?

I’ll answer the question - they won’t because their donors pay them not to.

Trump garnered more votes from people of color in ‘20 than he did in ‘16. Early polling suggests he will top that in ‘24 if it is a Biden-Trump contest. The existential threat messaging needs work it seems.

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Julie Dahlman's avatar

I do agree with a lot of what you say and have been holding my nose for over decades and vote blue but ...................... I still will. I voted for Nader in 2000 and even held an event to promote him. I don't regret my vote for him out here in Oregon as the repugs were bound and determined to get GWB in there with the help of Florida politicians and brotherly corruption.

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Tom High's avatar

Totally understand, and recognize your right to make your own choice in the voting booth. That’s one facet of democracy.

That said, your over decades remark made me smile, and gave me another moniker for Democratic Party other than Team Blue; the Hold Your Nose Party.

Illustrative of the current landscape within the duopoly.

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