It seems quite simple. The southern states of the civil war era have become the republicans of today. As far as Haley it was simply a 'DUH' moment which she can spend the rest of her life trying to live down.
It seems quite simple. The southern states of the civil war era have become the republicans of today. As far as Haley it was simply a 'DUH' moment which she can spend the rest of her life trying to live down.
My sister and brother-in-law moved to SC some years ago. My guess is that although they won’t vote for Trump, as long as it’s racism clothed in Christianity, they’ll be ok with any Republicans.
It is not odd that so many Protestant Christian's are now so poorly read in the key teachings of Christ that they are willing to support a guy (Trump) who was arrested for beating his wife in the early 1990's, a guy who raped a woman in a department store, a guy who has been divorced (many) times, a guy who openly makes fun of charity, forgiveness, kindness, valuing difference, and who openly only thinks and talks about himself.
I spent age 11 to age 18 in a Protestant Baptist Church (the SBC version) in East Texas and I can tell you that the hints of Trump were there back then.
THE most common event in a Baptist Church is:
1. The guy that some all male group of members who run the church selected as the "Preacher" gets caught with one of the all male member's wives, usually naked and in bed.
2. The guy whose wife was caught leaves the church and start another Baptist Church with his money. About half the church follows him.
3. One half of the church starts to hate on the members who left and that continues until everyone is dead.
4. Both churches continue to demonize anyone different from them from the pulpit on Sunday morning and preach a gospel of hypocrisy.
5. People like me, who, by age 16 had actually quietly read all of the gospels carefully and, sometimes sadly, internalized those "radical" messages of forgiveness, tolerance, acceptance........ LEAVE the Baptist Church.
6. The Baptist Church labels people like me as Christian "Deconstructionists". It is not that I have read the scriptures and understand that Baptists are WAY OUT IN WEEDS of Christianity and that many preachers have never read the New Testament or the Old Testament. Nope. It is that I am "astray" and "lost".
7. Preachers give looong, boring talks on the people like me who are astray and how we are "LOST" from the "FLOCK" of those who know that selfish white men should be in charge of (everything) and guys like me, well, we are a goin' t' HALE.
So, in such a mess of a culture it is easy to see how Trump, who is not much different than many SBC preachers, has been fully embraced by a bunch of white people who care more about their status, their money and their "Positiion" than they care about a "Democracy" the enables HEATHEN like me to have the same rights they do.
Because, God knows I do NOT deserve any rights at all that they don't grant me.
Damn, you’ve been there. My Baptist friend could verify all your points. I went with her as a teen and the big question was which group to support and which to hate. Sorry, but Baptist has always seemed like a dirty word to me.
Me too, such self-righteous blather, opposite of Jesus if you ask me. Methodists were better before Karl Rove made all churches arms of the Repub party in 2004.
Yes! I was in Ohio for Christmas and it made my skin crawl, being a northeast liberal, I couldn’t get out fast enough. My sister lives there..(long story no need to get into)....ugh, and I’ve spent enough time in the south to know that’s not for me either.
I lived in the south from 1934-1997 and find Chicago the most racist place I have ever lived. Learned real “colorblindness” from my father and at UNC-CH.
It seems quite simple. The southern states of the civil war era have become the republicans of today. As far as Haley it was simply a 'DUH' moment which she can spend the rest of her life trying to live down.
My sister and brother-in-law moved to SC some years ago. My guess is that although they won’t vote for Trump, as long as it’s racism clothed in Christianity, they’ll be ok with any Republicans.
Virginia,
It is not odd that so many Protestant Christian's are now so poorly read in the key teachings of Christ that they are willing to support a guy (Trump) who was arrested for beating his wife in the early 1990's, a guy who raped a woman in a department store, a guy who has been divorced (many) times, a guy who openly makes fun of charity, forgiveness, kindness, valuing difference, and who openly only thinks and talks about himself.
I spent age 11 to age 18 in a Protestant Baptist Church (the SBC version) in East Texas and I can tell you that the hints of Trump were there back then.
THE most common event in a Baptist Church is:
1. The guy that some all male group of members who run the church selected as the "Preacher" gets caught with one of the all male member's wives, usually naked and in bed.
2. The guy whose wife was caught leaves the church and start another Baptist Church with his money. About half the church follows him.
3. One half of the church starts to hate on the members who left and that continues until everyone is dead.
4. Both churches continue to demonize anyone different from them from the pulpit on Sunday morning and preach a gospel of hypocrisy.
5. People like me, who, by age 16 had actually quietly read all of the gospels carefully and, sometimes sadly, internalized those "radical" messages of forgiveness, tolerance, acceptance........ LEAVE the Baptist Church.
6. The Baptist Church labels people like me as Christian "Deconstructionists". It is not that I have read the scriptures and understand that Baptists are WAY OUT IN WEEDS of Christianity and that many preachers have never read the New Testament or the Old Testament. Nope. It is that I am "astray" and "lost".
7. Preachers give looong, boring talks on the people like me who are astray and how we are "LOST" from the "FLOCK" of those who know that selfish white men should be in charge of (everything) and guys like me, well, we are a goin' t' HALE.
So, in such a mess of a culture it is easy to see how Trump, who is not much different than many SBC preachers, has been fully embraced by a bunch of white people who care more about their status, their money and their "Positiion" than they care about a "Democracy" the enables HEATHEN like me to have the same rights they do.
Because, God knows I do NOT deserve any rights at all that they don't grant me.
Damn, you’ve been there. My Baptist friend could verify all your points. I went with her as a teen and the big question was which group to support and which to hate. Sorry, but Baptist has always seemed like a dirty word to me.
I know! I know I shouldn't, but I shut down at the mention of Baptist.
Me too, such self-righteous blather, opposite of Jesus if you ask me. Methodists were better before Karl Rove made all churches arms of the Repub party in 2004.
Not the Episcopal.
Well put. In the words of Emma Watson, "F*** the patriarchy."
And "F" the white faux-Christian nationalists.
Yes! I was in Ohio for Christmas and it made my skin crawl, being a northeast liberal, I couldn’t get out fast enough. My sister lives there..(long story no need to get into)....ugh, and I’ve spent enough time in the south to know that’s not for me either.
I lived in the south from 1934-1997 and find Chicago the most racist place I have ever lived. Learned real “colorblindness” from my father and at UNC-CH.