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Frank Loomer's avatar

Remember, guys, that autocrats need mass markets to sell their corporate products and services as much as anyone else.

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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

Frank, As I understand, without the container of democracy, of the rule of law, of civil society, which help level the effects of distribution, we find pockets of vastly disproportionate amounts of wealth, power, and influence.

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Frank Loomer's avatar

totally agreed, even with the "container of democracy" wealth and with it political inequality has ballooned to historic heights.

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Justin Sayn's avatar

Yeah Frank, the Supreme Court that left us with Citizens United would agree. Teddy Roosevelt would not.

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Frank Loomer's avatar

The antitrust laws likely did little to change wealth distribution. eg Rockefeller made tons from the forced sale of his oil companies, more likely than he would have otherwise. I personally treat Teddy Roosevelt with a grain of salt that way myself. FDR and Francis Perkins, leaning on the social reforms installed across the "pond" to resist communist suasion, did more to put a foundation on the "welfare" state, a misleading term but will do for now. In Europe they call it "social democracy". We have more of that in Canada than the US has yet to obtain.

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Justin Sayn's avatar

Y'all are more polite like that. What I was hinting at was that history does have its fluctuations as you might say. I've often thought that it was ironic that Teddy was enshrined on Mount Rushmore before his 2nd cousin became president.

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Frank Loomer's avatar

lol MR with more space might have had "more room to grow"... that sculpture was a long "work in progress" last i heard. Wasn't it in Hitchcock's North by Northwest"?

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Justin Sayn's avatar

I'm not sure. It's been a while since I've seen that one.

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Frank Loomer's avatar

me too. 1959, but yes it was Mt Rushmore, and i kind of remember the "crop duster" attack. As for the plot, that remains very vague indeed. Cary Grant, now that i check Google. Aha, he's running from the cops and communists ... can rent it for $5 on Prime, or heck, download it on a torrent. Wow, dvds etc still go for a little fortune, after all this time. Very dated acting, but hey, that's how drama was done then.

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