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JJC in VT's avatar

I don't understand why the FBI would not be paying MTG a visit for her threats and seditious statements at the young Republican Rally in NYC. Would love to see the "youth" demographic of that gathering: a room of 60+ white guys.

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TCinLA's avatar

Reinhard Heydrich, er, I mean Stephen Miller, is under 40, that makes him "young" for Republicans.

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DebbieM (OH)'s avatar

The first time I saw Miller all I could think of was 'robot'. He reminded me of the movie "Boys from Brazil" in which Josef Mengele (Gregory Peck) secretly created a group of Hitler clones to reestablish the Third Reich. Miller is one soulless looking man

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Pamela's avatar

The fact that Stephen Miller is himself Jewish makes his remarks and actions even more disturbing.

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Solange Kellermann's avatar

as a Jew, may I say that I am deeply ashamed of his abandonment of every Jewish principle, of every Jewish dictate that we treat each other with kindness. That his grandfather is a Holocaust survivor makes him even more repellent.

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Paula's avatar

Ditto! Thank you for explaining so clearly why I am outraged and disgusted by Miller. Disgracefully, there is a neo-fascist element of Jews here and in Israel.

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DebbieM (OH)'s avatar

I agree. Maybe he thinks he's too far up the social scale to be affected like other Jews. Karma doesn't care about that...

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Marycat2021's avatar

Every persecuted group has its traitors if you look at history you'll find them. Perhaps Miller, in his youth, rejected his people's history and found he preferred to be among the oppressors.

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TCinLA's avatar

He's a KAPO, and when the time comes, as it did for all the KAPOs, he'll find he has a reserved seat on the last train to Auschwitz.

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Ellen's avatar

His own family has denounced his views.

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Solange Kellermann's avatar

didn't know that. It must be painful for them to see what he's done and is doing.

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kdsherpa's avatar

I believe that they have cut all ties with him, as well, by now.

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Bryan Sean McKown's avatar

Miller came out of West LA & his issues go far back to high school or earlier.

TCinLA?

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TCinLA's avatar

Back then, they should have stuffed him in a seabag and tossed him off the Santa Monica Pier in a storm.

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Sharon Stearley's avatar

Great idea!

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kdsherpa's avatar

LOL! Great suggestion!

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Sharon Stearley's avatar

Can you explain his issues?

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Marycat2021's avatar

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/stephen-miller

Read the section under "Background." He's been a fascist douchebag since high school.

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TCinLA's avatar

See below.

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Citizen60's avatar

Which his parents and family have said. Wonder if they were invited to his wedding.

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Sue Selman, OC/CA's avatar

Miller has disgusted and terrified me since he first appeared on the scene with Trump , and the L.A. Times wrote articles revealing what a soulless person he is. Every evil statement from Trump since that time not spoken spontaneously and/or in good English with bigly words has come from him. And he doesn’t appear to be going away. If Trump finally goes down, who do you think he’ll attach himself to or is he repulsive to all?

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NMorgan's avatar

We in beleaguered Loudoun County were told Miller orchestrated the parent group that attacked our school board over CRT, book banning, etc.

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kdsherpa's avatar

My older brother is a very "tame" pro-Orange Sadist supporter. He is a high-functioning autistic person, and lives only for statistics. He also is incapable of handling change of any sort. Unsurprisingly, the statistics about the large decrease in the white population in this country in the past 40 years has both fascinated him (the statistic part) and terrified him (the increasing diversity of people in the U.S.) He keeps his views very private, but one time when he visited, I said, "I'm not going to get into trump stuff, but the real puppeteer on immigration is Steven Miller." He looked astounded that I knew this, and then said, "He's a NOBODY!" Um, me thinks he doth protest too much. I was very concerned that even MSNBC had said nothing about that monster, so I wrote Rachel to advise. Within a WEEK, there were reports about Miller by both Chris Hayes and Laurence O'Donnell. Not sure how or why they missed it, but the truth about that particular sadist, among many in the circle of the Orange Sadist, needed to become widely known.

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JJC in VT's avatar

Miller reminded me of R. M Renfield, Dracula’s fly eating minion.

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R Dooley (NY)'s avatar

That's an image that sticks!

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Sharon Stearley's avatar

When I saw him I pictured him as the devil....I saw evil. I agree no doubt he has no soul!

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Jen Schaefer's avatar

So agree!!

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Karen RN's avatar

Heydrich was known as The Hangman and head of the “Gazpacho” . No doubt one of Steven Miller’s heroes

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Steve Abbott's avatar

Gazpacho, like revenge, is a dish best served cold. :)

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SLWeston (PA)'s avatar

Priceless, Steve Abbott.

Timing is everything.

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Sandra VO (Maryland)'s avatar

What does that mean? Many thx.

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Jon Margolis's avatar

Computer-speak for four thumbs up. Awkward, isn't it? :-)

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Barbara D. Reed's avatar

Gazpacho is a Spanish tomato based dish that's served cold.

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TCinLA's avatar

No doubt - and Miller looks like his reincarnation. Actually, the head of the "Gazpacho" was the failed chicken farmer, Heinrich Himmler.

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JDinTX's avatar

Damn, I thought Miller was a twin for Goebbels

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Keith Wheelock's avatar

Jeri I thought that Stephen Miller was a clone of Himmler. Clearly they have similar personalities and loyalty to the Fuhrer.

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TCinLA's avatar

Mentally - he is Goebbels

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Karen RN's avatar

The resemblance is frightening. Guess I had the chief Gazpacho mixed up with the failed chicken farmer. They are all so similar I get them mixed up

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TCinLA's avatar

One moron is just like the next. :-)

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Karen RN's avatar

Hey TC I’m watching this series on Netflix called “The Family”. It’s in about this “Christian” political group

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J. Nol's avatar

Do you mean one scared little boy trying to compensate with chest pounding is like the next?

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kdsherpa's avatar

Not moron, unfortunately. "Devil" is the better description.

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Harvey Kravetz's avatar

Joseph Goebbels is Miller's look alike

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J. Nol's avatar

The first time I saw a picture of him, I thought the same thing. Chilling.

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Karen RN's avatar

In Washington DC. That started the Prayer group breakfast. It is very disturbing

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MaryPat's avatar

And every President speaks at their annual Prayer Breakfast. Creepy. Powerful.

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Mary McGee Heins's avatar

Biden's remarks at this year's Breakfast in Feb. -- he took the opportunity to connect with everyone and to make a call for unity. What a great switch from the ever-prevalent political wrangling, and a good reason to attend!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/02/03/remarks-by-president-biden-at-the-national-prayer-breakfast/

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Mary McGee Heins's avatar

Yes. I have to ask Why? (every president speaks) if the group's purpose is world domination. Surely the presidents have known! Do they think it's a harmless group although seeking world domination?

Did Biden speak at the breakfast? I'm surprised Biden hasn't blown the lid on the group if they are so dangerous. When he first took office, the Chinese president, Xi Jinping, told him, "... democracies cannot be sustained in the 21st century, autocracies will run the world. Why? Things are changing so rapidly. Democracies require consensus, and it takes time, and you don't have the time."

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TCinLA's avatar

National Prayer Breakfast. They have a lot of Republican politicians involved.

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JDinTX's avatar

None actually believe in a just God, or they would be in fear of their immortal souls, goes for Franklin Graham and his ilk as well…

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J. Nol's avatar

The question is, do they believe at all, or is that just a convenient forum to gather and justify their increasingly bizarre stance.

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JDinTX's avatar

Puke on them all, ran for my life at first whiff of Repub at my former UM church

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Keith Wheelock's avatar

Jeri You continue to be the master of the understatement. On occasion I would like to know how you really feel. Puke indeed!

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Keith Wheelock's avatar

Tom If the Republican ‘Christian’ hypocrites were excluded from the National Prayer Breakfast, the turnout would be minimal.

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Sharon Stearley's avatar

I attended the last one that was held by them at our courthouse! I believe I was the only Democrat there....I felt out of place completely! There are Christians and then there are the other Christians! Needless to say in our Republican county...I lost my election!

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Keith Wheelock's avatar

Sharon You may have lost your election to the Trumpublicans, but you saved your soul and did honor to the Ten Commandants. You are the winner over those scum bums.

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Dave Dalton's avatar

“Ah, No zoup fer you”

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Jon Margolis's avatar

In what might be a cautionary tale to us all, it was said that Heydrich could play the violin so well as to make his hearers cry. And not in pain.

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Thomas Sherer's avatar

Miller is also a Jew with an obvious mental problem. Some of his extended forebears saw time in the Nazi concentration camps. Yet, he supports Nazi-like behaviors. Mental problems...

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Thomas Sherer's avatar

Amen!

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R Dooley (NY)'s avatar

And he's busy.

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Sue Selman, OC/CA's avatar

The fact he’s “busy” is most alarming.

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Mark In Colorado's avatar

Appreciate that you know your Nazi history and it’s parallels

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Bill's avatar

TCinLA, Heydrich came immediately to mind the first time I laid eyes on Miller. He has that same cold, empty look, devoid of any human compassion or understanding.

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DebbieM (OH)'s avatar

I just looked up the picture of Heydrich. OMG, yes, Miller looks like him. I do hope people are paying attention to how seriously dangerous all these Trump sycophants really are. Trump is going to eventually fall away but these lunatics (the 'quiet' ones like Miller) will still be operating. This stuff is so scary. If people would learn about history, they'd be more alarmed at what is going on.

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Mike S's avatar

"I don't understand why the FBI would not be paying MTG a visit for her threats and seditious statements"

Jerry,

Trump attempted to have Mike Pence, his Vice President, HUNG, and he golfs every day at Mara Lago, in between reading classified documents; a free, rich, white man. In Trump's violent attack on the Capitol, people DIED. I mean, dead.

SEVEN PEOPLE DIED during that attack.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/politics/jan-6-capitol-deaths.html

So why sanction MJT for just talking about doing what Trump actually did??

She and we and the entire world knows it is TOTALLY OK to attack the Capitol because one lost an election and did not get what one wanted.

We can all just relax. MJT, Trump, Cruz? They are all gonna keep trying until they WIN.

AND, this just in from the NY Times. Republicans WON the popular vote in the house for everyone thinking this is all over and we are in the clear. Americans LOVE Fascism.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/13/upshot/2022-republicans-midterms-analysis.html?unlocked_article_code=RxlPj8brn_8W5lO9wSp4ueKwrEtXUx4ub5PIcEjF9D3L11MbAJi7Wzrc3zTE9g7sIguWljZ-5EMD6RVgVVPjymX-f4I4Dq1MA5mIpNsijOfpZlUoIh_siKjArWMdvWIi6I2DEqWtDkUrbbdpIRW3o4ePtBdOoSplTLCiM2t7uxmPY_7VkYZJPEXc9GS0aNkwaHt9GjMUR_Wq6gITMOyt1ztCCZwRQfBY4ICr2eIdh0q641f8lBiy2GBLY2mgr4NCYiKC3QfhebrFHaZbKCTdiB7kBUF4JF0xOw-V8rkJPSzZILF9E2aLvIcasmGKTU1FMCk6nYbQHTC1SryNLgMthLBdgGa3Uj892Wlf&smid=share-url

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JDinTX's avatar

They have never regretted, stopped the excuses, or halted their plans to do it again. The unmitigated gall is treasonous and a warning to us all.

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JohnM upstateNY's avatar

PLEASE see also Rachel Maddow's podcast "Ultra" for more chilling examples of how America's leaders (Congress) bought into Nazi propaganda during the war and immediately afterward (1944-46) even after they had been publicly prosecuted, turned their trial into a circus and managed to get not one but 2 special prosecutors fired, employing the president, himself recently a senator (Truman) to do so. The tenacity of these repellant ideas is astonishing!

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Barbara D. Reed's avatar

Another commenter was discussing how the Republicans love Russia and I pointed out the similarity to the Ultra podcast scenario. (I don't remember which Substack column the remarks were in-I read several LOL!)

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K Barnes's avatar

Russia love comes from christian extremism, which is out from the shadows with the current crop of repubs.

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Tyler Taylor's avatar

Agree. See the book "Jesus and John Wayne", which lays out how most white evangelicals had moved, over decades, to prizing badass warriors who will fight for white conservative folks like them. They didn't hold their nose re: Trump and his band. They had been waiting for years for them!

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Mike S's avatar

However, if WE try to do something about it?

We will end up in jail in 0.5 milliseconds.

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K Barnes's avatar

AND they draw comfy salaries from us, and will retire in a comfort not known by most in this country. It is a festering wound.

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Ted's avatar

We have an unacknowledged history of falling for demagogues that lead us towards fascism. A tragic mix. Read “Behold America” to learn this pattern.

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Elisabeth Iler's avatar

Hang on Mike: SOME Americans love fascism. Too many, that is true, but having grown up just post WWII, I know what it is all about.....fascism, that is.

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Ally House (Oregon)'s avatar

The problem is that they also know about fascism and long for it.

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Elisabeth Iler's avatar

Ally, there are still more of “us” than of “them”….

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K Barnes's avatar

Might be a near 50/50 draw???

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Jennifer Morris's avatar

They’re currying young Kyle Rittenhouse, the proud, gun toting, protestor murdering Republican who wept bitter tears of remorse because he got caught. Once acquitted, the Republicans took him under their wing. Tears are gone. Aspirations for politics in full bloom.

Scary thought.

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Gail E's avatar

Those were never tears of remorse. They were tears of performative victimhood, in keeping with right-wing "principles."

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Thomas Sherer's avatar

Maybe they have. Jack Smith certainly will call her in.

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Christy's avatar

Ari Melber had a good show last night. Comparing the evolution of very recent attempted fascist coups in Peru & Germany to the one here in the US on 1/6/21.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kf-E1lQ40YI

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Linda Weide's avatar

I agree. I read someone today saying that they should be indicting all members of Congress who participated in the seditious acts. Of course, Law Professor Joyce Vance pointed out that because the goal of "seditious conspiracy is treason" it is under TREASON that one looks at the sentencing guidelines. https://joycevance.substack.com/p/the-week-ahead-549

We have people running our government who have committed treasonous acts against our nation. Marjorie Taylor Greene is among them in my opinion. Also, since these groups are terrorist groups like the KKK, the Proud Boys, the Nazis, The Oath Keepers, etc... I am for outlawing these groups from existing. Freedom, Schmeedom when it comes to speech and acts. We don't yell fire in a theater and we don't subvert the government. Mr. Musk is treading a fine line and I hope we don't have to count on the EU to smack him down.-- Last night I was talking with friends about the fact that Putin has kidnapped so many Ukrainian children. It is just horrific. My friend was saying, well, yeah, he wants ethnically Slavic people to help populate Russia because the regions they have incorporated are largely not Slavic. That is why he has been so willing to send the people in the poor non-Slavic regions in to die in battle. He only values the Slavs. This is also why he is making being LGBTQ+ criminal in Russia. It is not a good model for breeding, and that is all that counts. Given the type of father he appears to be, it is not surprising that he sees the goal of people to breed to create more of the people that he wants as his subjects. He will try to kill all the parents so that he only has victims he can brainwash to raise in Russia. While he wants to drive European haven countries into being anti Ukraine by having so many refugees, this still has not worked because he does not see what a brutal and hateful figure he is to the civilized world. I have been suggesting that we send electric generators and solar panels and make all power so local that it would be cost prohibitive for Putin to try to knock out each home that has these things. This is what helped people in Puerto Rico who had solar and generators to have power when the hurricane knocked everyone else's energy out they continued on. Even better is if we could help set up the production of solar panels and generators in Ukraine. I also find this mini nuclear reactor by University of Illinois at Urbana interesting, because by being buried underground, it would be hard to attack. If it can do what it claims it could be a useful piece of a carbon neutral energy package since it is seamless container-- so no leakage, has a very durable shell which can withstand extreme cold and heat such as desert temps, does not use water for cooling, and being buried underground would not make such a bombing target. https://npre.illinois.edu/about/illinois-microreactor-project

I assume that Russia will not automatically be provided with locations either. I believe Russia will never be given the trust of the Ukrainian people again. I just hope they can get their children back when the war ends.

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Elisabeth Iler's avatar

Jerry, she is completely vile and untethered. She claims her comments about overthrowing the government fully armed were “sarcasm”. Let’s tell that to the judge....

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Bongo-1, VT's avatar

And of course the born sleaze McCarthy is “making love” to her to-get her support for his dream to become Speaker!

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Elisabeth Iler's avatar

Ew, Hale, I can’t unsee that image….puke….

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Joan Friedman (MA, from NY)'s avatar

However obnoxious, MTG’s talk about what she did not do is protected by the First Amendment from government interference.

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Thomas Sherer's avatar

Yesterday's laughable boast may be, but when she helped organize and facilitate the Insurrection, she is not protected.

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Gail E's avatar

Unfortunately, the First Amendment protects MTG's right to say stupid things, as long as she doesn't act on them. But I've no doubt the FBI has long since started a file on her.

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Linda Weide's avatar

I believe MTG is not allowed to say just anything under the First Amendment. If she makes plans to do something that would be considered treasonous and her speech includes planning it out, and helping for actions of others to happen she can get in trouble. Also, if her speech is slanderous or harassing she might be limited.

https://www.freedomforum.org/is-your-speech-protected-by-the-first-amendment/#:~:text=The%20First%20Amendment%20does%20not%20protect%20speech%20that%20leads%20to,fact%20lead%20to%20lawless%20action.

In part, it depends on people being willing to call her on it. If she is this mean now, just think what she is going to be like in a few years. For right now her obnoxiousness has been working, but we shall see whether she is the flavor of the month or if she can stand the test of time.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/01/marjorie-taylor-greene-congress-georgia-election-background/672229/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/11/30/marjorie-taylor-greene-house-majority-committee/https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/12/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-armed-insurrection-comments/index.html

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Gail E's avatar

As I said, "as long as she doesn't act on them."

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David Holzman's avatar

I love hearing that the G7 remains strongly behind Ukraine, showing, among other things, how much Democracy matters around the world. And that Jack Smith is closing in on Trump.

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Michael Bales's avatar

Trump must see Jack Smith’s stern visage in his tormented sleep.

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Mike S's avatar

Michael,

I doubt it.

Trump knows he is never going to jail and probably will never be indicted.

Trump is well used to sleeping (very) well while breaking the law. He has been doing both his entire adult life consequence free.

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Susan Lorraine Knox's avatar

...which comes of having no social conscience.

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Fred WI's avatar

I think Trump is playing out the game he has been master of all his adult life. I'm counting on hardening of his arteries or bloviation on one of his golf course while his playmatescontinue through the 18th hole and actually win the game for once; golf I am referring to, of course. The 19th hole will give them time to get their story right about IT'S passing and their roles in it. Who to be Grand Mourner? And,who to be Chief Historian? And, who to be in charge or Counting the Crowd at his National Internment. Probably Lindsay and DeSantis will insist he be buried at Mara Largo instead of Arlington so that Florida can become the home of the New Republican Party, complete with monument and spirit of MAGA. This could work out. Now, if hardening doesn't come quickly, maybe McCarthy will accidently run over IT in a sandtrap; over and over, until the golf cart can be rescued and cleaned up while the Secret Service guards are having dognuts. I of course, jest, of course, probably, perhaps. But, what a way to end the year!

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Keith Wheelock's avatar

Fred Sounds like a far more festive close of 2022 rather than freezing at Times Square. Perhaps just leave him in a sand trap covered in classified documents?

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Fred WI's avatar

I'd help you with a case of Ketshup as topping. Imagine his as a MAGA meatloaf. Have a good new year. Maybe we shout think about a visitation to assure his demise and installation?

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Citizen60's avatar

I am totally ok with Trump being buried at Mar-a-Lago. Heaven forbid he desecrate Arlington

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Susan Lorraine Knox's avatar

We could send photos of Smith to Donald. Lots of them.

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JDinTX's avatar

Nightmares all night long for the evil who is truly an American invention.

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Elisabeth Iler's avatar

Michael, “tormented sleep”??? So much sugar consumed in so much fried fast food must knock him out, like a coma. I guess he slept peacefully through one million deaths due to his cruel ineptitude.

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J. Nol's avatar

Yes. Maybe. Why did any of these countries send their soccer teams to a country that sanctions hatred and bigotry toward gay people and women if they are so committed to supporting gender equity and equality for all?

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Carey's avatar

Exactly. The almighty dollar or whatever must matter more. Playing in and covering what happened in that place is tacit approval of the deaths and thievery resulting from its being built. We should have refused to watch. Watching was tacit agreement. I didn’t watch but that’s because it didn’t interest me. Had I but really thought about it I’d have called for a boycott. As if...

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Susan's avatar

I love these hopeful Letters from an American . . . . for some reason, it seems as though we have turned a corner. Thank you for helping show us the way.

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J L Graham's avatar

There seems to be potential to turn a corner if we run with it.

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Mike S's avatar

Perhaps that is how people in Germany felt in say, 1935?

Two years after Hitler stormed the Reichtag?

The timing is right.

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Bryan Sean McKown's avatar

The top floor of the Holocaust Museum in DC covers the 1930 's & is worthy of a closer inspection now.

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Ally House (Oregon)'s avatar

I went to Germany for the first time in 2012 at Christmas. I visited several museums, and was stunned by the similarities I saw between what I was seeing in the US and in the museums. It’s only gotten worse.

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JDinTX's avatar

But…

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

First, I want to thank you, Heather, for this fantastic report. I appreciate the great news you are bringing to us. Being a shut-in, all I have time to do now is read up on everything going on in the outside world. And I truly like getting good, true, News.

Now, for my thoughts on a few things.

MTG needs to be sanctioned, banned from the House of Representatives, and have it fixed where she can never hold a public office, of any kind, ever again. She should be arrested, and the key to her cell thrown in the deepest part of the ocean. If a common citizen had stood in front of any crowd and uttered the words MTG said, they would have been arrested before they left the microphone stand.

Now, for the Republican Party, and the group of enablers that communicated with ‘the former guy’ and his staff about overthrowing the election results, overthrowing our democracy, attacking the Capital, and involving the white supremacy groups in the attack. Every one of them need to have the same fate as MTG. None of them are fit to hold any public office, ever again. They need to be kicked out of Congress, immediately. Disgraced out of Washington DC and their respective states they all represent.

Now, I have no idea how, or who, might be responsible for getting all this bunch kicked out of Congress, but they need to get it done. I strongly believe that if “We the People” raise enough hell, make enough phone calls, write enough letters, and continue pressure on our politicians, something will be done. It should have already been done.

Let’s get with it, folks!

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J L Graham's avatar

" If a common citizen had stood in front of any crowd and uttered the words MTG said, they would have been arrested before they left the microphone stand."

We can argue about what is free speech, but it sure gets more serious in the performance of a critical, entrusted duty. We are held to very strict standards as a juror or witness in a court, yet those who make the law provably lie and display irresponsible conduct with astounding impunity. Hopefully some will now be held accountable? Joe McCarthy was held accountable, as was (till "pardoned") Nixon. We as a society desperately need to raise the bar.

“Because power corrupts, society’s demands for moral authority and character increase as the importance of the position increases.” – John Adams

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

Very true, J L Graham. Thanks for your response. But, in my days of law enforcement, “Freedom of Speech” stopped when threats were made of violence, armed assaults, etc. And this is exactly what MTG has done here with her speech.

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Mary Wimsatt's avatar

My understanding is that when a law enforcement officer is credibly accused of misconduct, that officer is suspended from regular duties pending investigation. Is it the case that Congress has no similar provision for its members that have credibly violated the oath to uphold the Constitution?

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

Actually, there’s a law in the books Yvan deals with just this. A sr toon of the constitution. I don’t remember the exact law, or the exact section of the constitution. But, yes, there is.

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Mary Wimsatt's avatar

Yvan? Sr toon?

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J L Graham's avatar

Agreed.

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Christy's avatar

I agree. And I wish that experts on the First Amendment would congregate and figure out how to secure the public health within the right to free speech. Ever so important when one person’s voice can carry far and wide and deep with the help of our technology. New discoveries require the re-evaluation of democratic tenets. Bring in the historians and seek the truth to make the best path forward. Love the John Adams quote.

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

There's a LOT that the 'experts' in Washington DC need to figure out. Free Speech is just one. A "drop in the the bucket" so to speak.

Figuring out how to make sure that candidates, no matter the party affiliation, need to be mentally, physically having the ability to take the Oath of Office, and mean it when they do. I recall when I applied to a law enforcement agency, or a fire department. I had to go through all kinds of phycological, physical, and other exams to get the job. Why isn't this done on a Federal level for our leaders. The past president has shown this is a flaw in the system, and it needs to be fixed. No matter the political office. Local, state, federal. All candidates should have to go through these exams too be sure they are capable of holding any political office.

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Christy's avatar

💯 with you Daniel! And while that’s happening let’s keep up the momentum locally so we have a very well educated populace. “With just a few outstanding races either not called or in runoffs, we can now confirm we had our most successful election ever this November. At least 258 RFS-endorsed candidates won, which means our win percentage is over 52%.

Of our winners:

58% are women

54% are people of color

25% are a part of the LGBTQIA+ community

10 are Gen Z”

https://rfsfeelgoodupdates.substack.com/p/rfs-feel-good-update-1212-celebrating

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J L Graham's avatar

I fully agree, and it's tricky as there will always be those who will try to manipulate those strictures one way or another. That said, the pubic (the hiring authority for applicants to fill positions of public trust and dependence) have a right to know more about applicant than the just plain man or woman on the street, especially one with the extraordinary powers to launch nuclear weapons and issue pardons at will. Promising pardons in exchange for wrongdoing should be a "High Crime" by definition.

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JDinTX's avatar

Love Adams quote, slap it across chump’s forehead

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J L Graham's avatar

Along with "The Surgeon General has determined that GOP is dangerous to your health".

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Emily Pfaff's avatar

Thank you JL, and John Adams!

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Anne-Louise Luccarini's avatar

(So you're not worried about the prospect of living in a corrupt Marxist dictatorship? and the Marshall Law is obviously part of the Marshall Plan, and we all know that's a Good Thing.) /s (à la MTG).

How on earth did this bunch get into Congress in the first place? which part of We The People elected them? I'd be ashamed to admit to living there.

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J L Graham's avatar

The worst part of living in a corrupt Marxist dictatorship are the ever-present Gazpacho Police!

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J L Graham's avatar

and revenge is best served cold.

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Jeri B's avatar

I laughed out loud at this! Thank you! Needed that.

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

Answering your question. Absolutely!!! I am extremely worried. I’m worried that if this bunch of Marxist’s Republicans aren’t banished from office, and the likes of our former President is ever elected again, we might be speaking Russian, Korean, or Chinese, as a National language, instead of English.

Sad part of all this is I have members of my own family that support these idiots! Un-friggjng believable!

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Rickey Woody's avatar

Fascist Republicans

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

That’s ALMOST what I said to them, only worse. I can’t say it on here or I’d be banned for life for “language unbecoming”!

And, none of them speak to me now, which really doesn’t hurt my feelings. I’m ‘old school’. “If you don’t like what I have to say, to h*** 🔥🤬 with you!”

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J. Nol's avatar

I think they are the opposite of Marxists. They are more akin to Mussolini than Marx.

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

Yes. The worst of the worst.

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J L Graham's avatar

Totalitarians of any stripe, left, right or theocratic, seem too have more in common than they are different, but yes, the the historically infamous right wing tyrants seem the most evil of all.

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SPW's avatar

It’s times such as these that make me thankful I now have few family members.

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Ally House (Oregon)'s avatar

Brother, what I am seeing from my former comrades in arms is horrible. Buying every soundbite hook, line, sinker, reel, pole, and boat. (28 years full time county LE, 7 years part time courthouse security here.)

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

Yes. Ticks (cleaned up, but I'm sure you know what I mean) me off to the hilt. We sacrifice our lives every day, and these idiots go and do something like this. It's not like we worked our asses off for years building a decent communication with the public. Then they tear it down in one failed swoop!

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Ed Nuhfer's avatar

The political party operatives pick the candidates who are too mentally challenged to understand ethics and are very easy to manipulate. That's why Republicans have held up Ronald Reagan as their "ideal." Early Alzheimers victims seem particularly favored in the selection process.

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JDinTX's avatar

My husband had Alz for 15 years, he was NEVER as mentally challenged as this crowd of MAGAts. And yes, Reagan AND Nancy were toxic to democracy, two of their kids knew it.

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Bongo-1, VT's avatar

Nancy and her astrologer ran the presidency for half of Rayguns terms.

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J L Graham's avatar

With pretty out-of-it Reagan, I often wondered who (besides Nancy) might have been lurking behind the curtain.

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Rickey Woody's avatar

the GOP decided to let the voters decide. Years ago, many of these lamebrains would not even have gotten on the ballot.

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JDinTX's avatar

This says it all “Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when once they only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community. Then they were quickly silenced, but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel prize-winner. It’s the invasion of the idiots.” From Umberto Eco, Italian writer.

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NMorgan's avatar

Easily indoctrinated, easily bribed, yes. These behaviors have nothing to do with Alzheimers.

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TCinLA's avatar

They come from the shallow end of the gene pool. The descendants of the transported felonious pig fornicators sent to the prison colony of Georgia.

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MaryPat's avatar

I've wondered about that, too, but later learned that the prisoners were more debtors than criminals for the most part:

"In the early eighteenth century, Britain’s prisons were full of its citizens who committed minor infractions. Something as minor as a small, unpaid debt could send a person to an overcrowded, filthy, disease infested hell-hole.

"Enter, James Oglethorpe—British soldier, Parliament member and humanitarian..."

https://www.hhhistory.com/2018/05/colonial-georgia-prison-colony-or-place.html?m=1

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J. Nol's avatar

So things haven't changed much. We still imprison people for being poor and disenfranchised.

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MaryPat's avatar

😣

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JDinTX's avatar

Some went to NC and TX as well.

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Anne-Louise Luccarini's avatar

Thanks for that piece of scientific research. I don't think I want to know the country of origin of the said felons. :)

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TCinLA's avatar

"the man who stole a goose from the Commons was transported to America, while the man who stole the Commons from the goose was transported to Parliament."

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Gail Adams VA/FL's avatar

Hey! My family came through that Georgia system! ; )

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Kathleen Null's avatar

"which part of we the people elected them" .......the part who stayed home and couldn't be bothered!

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J L Graham's avatar

Well, they acquiesced. It's more of a matter of negligence. Our public messaging tends to frame voting primarily as a matter of choice, so some people choose not to vote, or tell themselves that the absence of their vote sends a "message" of dissatisfaction. But in fact it just distorts the manifestation of public will. I am unaware of salient public discussion of how we all, as a constitutional democratic republic, bear a share of responsibility for the direction of our society, and increasingly, the fate of the world. I think part of the motive to sit out elections is the sense of many that their vote doesn't count, ant a sense of disenfranchisement is a society in which money is increasingly a legal performance-enhancing drug and some can apply millions while others can barely survive, much less pay to influence politics. I think we need to get real about beating back the anti-democratic excessive influence of money on our political outcomes and treat it as de facto corruption.

We also need to remind ourselves that our vote is, as well as a personal choice, a determinant that in aggregate affects the lives of millions, especially of the already disadvantaged, and that irresponsible and unwise choices can frustrate our quality of life, and even kill; potentially even bring about our own extinction, though wars or other folly.

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Bongo-1, VT's avatar

About half the country think as she does!

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

True. And that's the 37%, or so, that are 'Lost in Space'.

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Gloria L Symons's avatar

I agree with you about MTG and the enablers of Jan 6th Has it been addressed if any of these despicable people gave tours before the riot to any of the people who stormed the capitol? I hope that questions I still have will be answered in the report that comes out, that will be a great birthday present this year!

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

If I’m not mistaken, part of MTG’s ‘confession’ over the mic yesterday (now) was that she did in fact take several on tours of the Capital in the days prior to January 6th to give them a first hand look where everyone’s office was, and where they needed to pay particular attention to when entering.

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Gloria L Symons's avatar

Good Grief! She needs to be kicked out, arrested, charged, she aided criminals Thanks, I had not heard this before. She needs to be stopped right now from participating in our governing body, she is a Traitor.

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Anne-Louise Luccarini's avatar

Yes, I remember, it was noted at the time.

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Cheryl Cardran's avatar

I may be wrong, but I believe there is some video footage of some Members giving tours.

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

Yes, there is. And one of these members giving ‘tours’ is a cheaply bleached blonde female.

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Anne-Louise Luccarini's avatar

Another name mentioned was that of Lauren Boebert.

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

Same thing with this bimbo. She’s worthless. A waste if space, and good air.

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J L Graham's avatar

Sometimes called "casing the joint".

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

Absolutely.

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Christy's avatar

All that stuff she couldn’t remember many months ago when she was under oath

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

MTG hasn’t cared about her oath since she took it. It’s just words to her. I wish I had 5 minutes, a cast iron skillet, and her, all behind the barn. She’d come out a whole different woman with a whole different attitude.

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Karen RN's avatar

You have said it very well. Yes, these dangerous buffoons need to be removed from Congress. Let’s make our voices heard. Unlike Marge Traitor Grub’s plan of well armed influence.

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Richard's avatar

Sort of like what Germany's doing with its crazy right wing saboteurs. This is my dream too. That the Maga fanatics finally face consequences for wanting to and trying to extinguish US democracy. Keep dreaming- sometimes dreams come true.

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

Exactly

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Ted's avatar

Ur right. 100%. We need to pour it on and not tolerate it any longer. This may seem impossible, but it isn’t. History teaches us that fact.

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Mike S's avatar

Daniel,

If Trump can get away with actually attempting to have his Vice President hung, while authoring and sponsoring a violent attack on our government, why should MJT be sanctioned for talking about doing that?

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

He shouldn’t be able to get away with it. Or the removal of the documents, mishandling of the documents, or anything else that POS has committed! Him, or any of his enablers.

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Mike S's avatar

Daniel,

"he shouldn't"

Aye, but he has and he is, getting completely "away with it".

Correct?

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

Hopefully not. He’s trying everything humanly possible. And the sad part is is using ‘other people’s money’ to do all this fighting.

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J L Graham's avatar

My hope is that even as we speak Mr. Smith is toning up his book-throwing arm.

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Gloria L Symons's avatar

Because her words will entice violence and embolden people to do it "right" the next time they try it. Trump of course, should not get away with attempting to have Pence hung! MJT words are poison and vile and appeal sadly to so many people in our country. Her words destroy not build a better life for our country.

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

Absolutely. The issue is we don’t have law enforcement with enough spine, nor have they ‘grown a pair’ big enough to arrest these people. They can spout “Free speech” all they want to. I want them charged with: A. Violation of oath of office , B. Treasonous acts, C. Inciting Violence/Treasonous Acts against the Democracy, D. Inciting a riot, E. Causing Treasonous Acts against government, F. Attempted Assault, G. Battery, H. Assault, I. Attempted murder, J. Murder

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Gloria L Symons's avatar

Yes, yes! I agree with you!

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

Every single charge should be brought against Trump, his idiot attorneys (Gulliani), every one of the 36 congressmen and congresswomen that took part in the planning of this.

Also all the charges, with the exception of the last one, should be one count each person in the Capital that day, for each law enforcement officer, everyone. The last charge should be , right now, 7 counts, with the provision of possibly increasing it in the future.

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Gloria L Symons's avatar

I like the way you think,

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Ally House (Oregon)'s avatar

That MissyThreeNames continues to serve in Congress having been recently re-elected is an abomination. She is advocating for the overthrow of our government. I think the 14th Amendment applies here.

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

If WE put enough pressure on our elected officials, WE can pose a change and get things done that needs to be done. But it's going to take a lot of work.

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Ted's avatar

100%. She is a Dim witted demagogue.

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J L Graham's avatar

Democracy is herding cats, which is both its feature and its flaw. Part of the appeal of authoritarians is an imposed defined agenda. Mitt Romney, for example, was starry eyed over China's public works:

" I got to go to the Olympic Games in China. It's pretty impressive over there how quickly they can build things, how productive they are as a society. You should see their airport compared to our airports, their highways, their train systems. They're moving quickly in part because the regulators see their job as encouraging private people. It's amazing. The head of Coca-Cola said the business environment is friendlier in China than in America. And that's because of the regulators. That's because of government."

No NIMBY is China. No sir. But here, theoretically, we each get a share of choice, agency and responsibility for outcomes. It's (theoretically) all DIY, with the aid of our hired, full time fiduciary agents; our "representatives". Democracy needs to be a conversation in order to get on the same page. Great things happen when we focus wisely. Grass roots and elected leaders can help attract that focus, but ultimately that buck stops with us.

“In this age, in this country, public sentiment is everything. With it, nothing can fail; against it, nothing can succeed. Whoever molds public sentiment goes deeper than he who enacts statutes, or pronounces judicial decisions.” - Lincoln

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J L Graham's avatar

From a rule of law perspective, why would it not?

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JDinTX's avatar

Glory, may it happen, resistbot, text 50409

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Mary Wimsatt's avatar

I don’t know who to write to. My previous congressional district was gerrymandered and looked like a balloon animal on the map, is now given a new number. My representative from old district chose not to run again due to sexual impropriety. My new representative will be new to Congress. Should I wait to advocate for consequences for those who violated their oath to uphold the Constitution?

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

Write to the Governor of Georgia to remove MTG from office. Write to all of your state senators and representatives to have MTG, and all the other 37+ enablers, congressional enablers of the past idiot, and instigators of the attempted coup to overthrow the government, removed from ingress immediately.

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Mary Wimsatt's avatar

Thank you Daniel

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Martha Woods's avatar

I think only Congress can move to expel a member of Congress. So we know that won't happen in the house. That doesn't mean they can't be arrested, tried, and jailed in court. I do not know if a State attorney can do that or only federal. Now that would be interesting to know.

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J L Graham's avatar

"If a common citizen"

I recall a common citizen being prosecuted for laughing during a Congressional hearing. Would it have been OK had had she cried?

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

Depends on who it is, I guess. Or how much money they have. Or who’s political pocket they’re lining.

You know the drill. Been there. Done that.

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

I know. And chances of it happening after January 3rd are slim to none. Especially with Kevin McCarthy as Speaker of the House. One of Trumps biggest followers!!!

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JDinTX's avatar

He hates chump as well, biggest hypocrite on planet earth. Just sold his soul. I think the devil may find that he never had one.

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Jen Schaefer's avatar

34 members of Congress texted Meadows about refusing to honor the election...??? It stands to reason that every one of them needs to be removed from Congress and never allowed to hold public office again. They are unAmerican and plotting against our Constitution. As with MTG, doesn’t freedom of speech have limits?

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Mike S's avatar

Jen,

"34 members of Congress texted Meadows about refusing to honor the election...???"

We all comment here like it is a big joke that 34 members of Congress openly committed treason along with the President of the United States on January 06.

And, the reason we all think it is a joke?

Because every single one of those folks and Trump "got" completely away with blatant Treason and are probably planning the next round of insurrections right now.

Right? MJT mouthing off is NOTHING these days.

Under George Washington? Maybe it would have been different.

But, it is so ingrained that you cannot arrest and jail a rich white man that, well, we just don't do it.

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Dianna Beers's avatar

Agreed, Mike. And their constituents reelect them and send them back to Congress because they love it! They think it’s “owning the libs”. They are too ignorant or uneducated - or too wealthy - to want to stop the march of the traitors. All the while thinking they aren’t the ones who will be affected. Too ignorant to realize that eventually, only those in power in an authoritarian society enjoy the “benefits” of that form of government.

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Mike S's avatar

Dianna,

Correct. However, we could do well to shut Fox Propaganda down.

That would help. Because, I know folks who are quite bright that have been addled by the fake blondes handing out fake news at Fox.

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Jen Schaefer's avatar

I’m just stunned by the brazen disregard of the Constitution by these nut jobs. They text their conspiracy theories and their traitorous plans, all the while knowing it is evidence of their criminality. Feels like mass hysteria and brainwashing and cultivating their most basic instincts allowed them to get into a frenzy of words and actions. I no longer wonder how the Nazis could grip the soul of Germany-we are witnessing the same syndrome-the nazification of the US.

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Mike S's avatar

"I no longer wonder how the Nazis could grip the soul of Germany-we are witnessing the same syndrome-the nazification of the US."

I know, personally, of people who have stopped speaking to their own birth family because they love Trump so much and someone said something against Trump at a gathering.

So, no, I don't wonder about Nazi Germany anymore. Heck, a couple weeks ago Trump met with a Nazi and tweeted about how great it was or something.

Probably got 100 million likes.

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JohnM upstateNY's avatar

See comment above!

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JohnM upstateNY's avatar

To repeat:

PLEASE see Rachel Maddow's podcast "Ultra" for more chilling examples of how America's leaders (Congress) bought into and were bought by Nazi propaganda during the war and immediately afterward (1944-46) even after they had been publicly prosecuted with recently captured files from the Nazis themselves listing all the sitting American congressmen on their payroll! They then turned their trial into a circus and managed to get not one but 2 special prosecutors fired, employing the president (Truman), himself recently a senator to do so. The tenacity of these repellant ideas and those who espouse them is astonishing!

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Mike S's avatar

Will do

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JDinTX's avatar

Coming up, if there is ANY justice

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Rickey Woody's avatar

would that be a hoot? Give House control back to the Dems.

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Jen Schaefer's avatar

I love the way you think! Lol

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Karen Livolsi's avatar

Been thinking that since participants ran for and won their seats. Their constituency is okay with the them in overturning the US Constitution and overthrowing the government, but our laws are not. We are a country of laws, not men. Fortunately PA showed you don’t elect these traitors to office again after J/6.

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Anne-Louise Luccarini's avatar

What a lovely thought, with Christmas coming on...

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Jen Schaefer's avatar

I just read the article. Thank you, MaryPat-stunning and shocking all over again. The fact that the overwhelming majority of those who texted Meadows refuse to comment on their actions is an obvious admission of guilt. The thought that some of these, like Jordan, will be heading committees in Congress is a scandal. They should be removed from office and prevented from ever serving in the future. I’m not a lawyer or Constitutional expert, but in my humble opinion these texts are evidence of treason. Thx again for sharing this article.

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Sue Selman, OC/CA's avatar

And Jim Jordan is there ready to seize power. How many of the texts are his?

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Jen Schaefer's avatar

Thank you for this! I’m taking notes!

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Ted's avatar

34 members of Congress don’t believe their own intelligence reports ( assuming they can read). They believe what they hear from RT.

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Jeff Carpenter's avatar

❗️ ❗️ ❗️

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Michele's avatar

An interesting and far ranging report on the news of the day. Thank you Heather as always for your letters. I see that Gangrene is using the usual R excuse that no, I didn't really mean what I said. It was sarcasm...just a joke, folks. The list of seditious Congress pols is long and nauseating. The party of death and treason.

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Dave's avatar

White Supremacists always use the same excuse when they start getting heat for what they say. “Awe, shucks, can’t anyone take a joke these days?”. They know they’re not joking, and so do we.

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J L Graham's avatar

Old news from CBS," Lawyers for conservative attorney Sidney Powell told a federal court on Monday that "no reasonable person" would conclude her unfounded claims of voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election were statements of fact". True enough that no reasonable person would believe her, but she still told slanderous lies. The judge didn't buy the "only kidding" defense.

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Ted's avatar

MTG’s constituents believer her 100%. Perhaps she believes it herself too, or is she pandering to the true believers? Either way, Irrational delusions lead to violence.

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Michele's avatar

I enjoy jokes and sarcasm and I can tell the difference between that and what Gangrene said. It has become the usual m.o. Say something outrageous and awful, catch flak, and then all of a sudden it is a joke. The people there knew that she meant it as they could also see facial expression and tone of voice. Responsible public figures do not say things like that.

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Victoria Wilson's avatar

The scary part is that these traitorous Congresspeople are still representing constituents. How can this be when they don’t believe Biden is the legitimate POTUS?They owe their allegiance to Trump and think he is the POTUS. They must not be allowed to continue to represent the people who elected them. These legislators do not legislate the will of their people and are siding with a traitor.

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Mary Wimsatt's avatar

I would think that all of the representatives that proved they violated their oath to uphold the Constitution would be sent home or at least not allowed to vote on measures.

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Bongo-1, VT's avatar

I dread having to listen to the pervert supporting Gym Jordan blathering his insane bullshit as Chairman of the Judiciary Committee.

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Linda Bailey's avatar

Hale you are going to hear it for years to come. Buy yourself a good pair of noise canceling headphones.

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Bongo-1, VT's avatar

Don't need to I am pretty feaf. Left my hearing in a few helicopters in my youth. Trouble is I will still see him in his shirt sleeves and read his asininity on my phone or computer 🙄

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Bongo-1, VT's avatar

Deaf

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Dianna Beers's avatar

Because the constituents who elected them AGREE WITH THEM!!! They will keep returning them to Congress.

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Victoria Wilson's avatar

This is not true in every instance. The odious Jim Jordan is my House rep and I certainly did not vote for him. He and the others who helped facilitate January 6 should all be held accountable.

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Ted's avatar

Is there a map that shows what counties and states 1/6’ers came from?

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Victoria Wilson's avatar

That's a good question.

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J L Graham's avatar

A tangled web indeed.

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Anne-Louise Luccarini's avatar

So am I, and I'd only just finished laughing at "Marge Traitor Grub".

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JDinTX's avatar

Mr too

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JohnM upstateNY's avatar

Remember name-calling and dehumanizing is one of the many tools "they" use in their infowars!

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Michele's avatar

I refuse to feel bad about name calling with regard to these public figures. If they had one ounce of acting like decent human beings, I wouldn't. Of course, I could resort to the ages old names applied to people like these, but enjoy the creativity of people applying their wit. As a former educator, I can tell you that students become very adept at this sort of thing also.

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Linda K's avatar

Could it be that my Christmas wish comes true? Thank you for the latest updates, dear Heather!

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evelyn spiess's avatar

Wouldn’t that be grand?!!!!!

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Irenie's avatar

Thank you Professor for the updates on the War in Ukraine and the G7. To see countries working together, especially in the G7 is an amazing contrast to TFG’s attempt to take it down, as he had great disdain for cooperation and collaboration.

This particularly stands out:

“Taken together, the G7 and its international partners, the statement says, are demonstrating their resolve to work together to address both major systemic challenges and immediate crises. “Our commitments and actions,” they say, “pave the way for progress towards an equitable world…[and] a peaceful, prosperous, and sustainable future for all.”

I’m filled with Hope and great appreciation for the attempt by our country and each of these countries to work together for now and the future. The key to a peaceful world will be Justice for all. Not power over, but together. That is happening with the Biden presidency.

Lest we forget: Below is a G7 story from TFG’s years. It speaks for itself.

https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/08/23/donald-trump-g7-summit-america-first-1473385

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Anne-Louise Luccarini's avatar

Brings it all back. "“Each of these global meetings has become more adversarial,” said a former senior administration official, who cited the president pulling out of the Paris climate agreement, the Trans-Pacific Partnership and the Iran deal as top-line ways in which Trump has blown up the global order." You'd almost think someone was prompting him...

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Olof Ribbing's avatar

War gen.VI, according to Putin, who is pulling the strings to obtain global disorder where he figures to have his best chances. Just too bad he managed to get trump into the White House, and 70 million puppets to go with him.

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Anne-Louise Luccarini's avatar

Quite so. And it worked terribly well until November , until things came unstuck at the end of 2020.

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Joan Friedman (MA, from NY)'s avatar

Pulling out of TPP was one of the few good things Trump did. There’s a reason it was being pushed through Congress without full scrutiny or debate. It included provisions that corporations could sue governments for damages, if a government instituted policies that decreased the company’s profits.

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Kathy's avatar

Thanks, Irenie .Also love viewing the the pic again of Angela Merkel doing her best Nancy Pelosi imitation.😉

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Mike S's avatar

Great post. I love the way you have juxtaposed today with Trump days.

Thank you.

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Ted's avatar

TFG did more for Putin than all the Russian ambassadors combined. A one man state department for Vladimir.

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Gayle Cureton's avatar

It might be slow mo, but it’s thorough, and totally happening!

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Georgia Fisanick's avatar

The Bulwork article has provoked some very dark thooughts.

That the newest "documents with classified markings" came from unsecured locations other than the White House and Mar-a-Lago is mind-blowing to me. It sounds like Trump was expecting to have a garage sale to sell off memorabilia from The Office of the 45th President" to be sold to the highest bidder.

The seriousness of the national security breaches is extreme. That Trump had so little regard for maintaining the nation's safety and security takes narcissism to a new extreme. But now I am feeling gut punched by my thought that he would actually sell the secrets for personal gain . It is a thought that won't go away.

Trump hanging on to the Kim letter felt like keeping a souvenir to me--he wanted something to remind him of this time as the most powerful man in the world. Everyone knew about it. But his keeping the hundreds of top secret documents that were only known to intelligence professionals in different hiding places speaks to a different motivation--greed.

That is a grift on a whole different level and the stuff of nightmares.

From the Bulwark article:

"The greater significance of this disclosure is that the newly revealed classified documents came from a different location—not the White House, but an office in Northern Virginia used by Trump staffers—and they were transferred to a different location—not Mar-a-Lago, but a storage unit in West Palm Beach.

The fact that Trump kept classified materials at locations other than the White House and moved them to locations other than Mar-a-Lago raises not only ongoing concerns as to whether there’s still more out there, but it also exponentially complicates assessment of the national security risks.

New questions abound: Which Trump staffers had access to these materials when they were still at the White House? How were they packed up? How were they transferred from the White House to the Northern Virginia office? Who had access to them during the transfer? Once they arrived at the Northern Virginia office, who then had access to them? What kind of security was in place at the office?"

https://www.thebulwark.com/its-time-to-indict-donald-trump/

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Mike S's avatar

Yes,

It is mind blowing that Trump can:

Plan a violent attack on the Capitol.

Sponsor a violent attack on the Nation's Capitol that killed seven people.

Attempt to have his Vice President hung during the attack.

Steal loads of classified documents.

Then, head to Mara Lago for some rounds of golf and then?

Run for President AGAIN so he can do a repeat.

Mind blowing.

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

And, act like he’s done absolutely NOTHING wrong!!! That’s mind blowing! 🤯

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Mike S's avatar

I hate to say it but:

As a white man in America??

He pretty much CAN do no wrong. At least historically.

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

Yes, and he’s BEEN doing wrong ever since I can remember. He has the ‘art of conducting criminal activity’ down to a science. He always has others do his activity for him. Has others break the law. Makes them huge promises he never keeps, like “I’ll take care of you if anything happens.”

In the 70s to the late 80s I was fjrtumste enough to be on s task force looking into him, and his ‘activities’. He had plenty do his ‘bidding’ fir him, where they ended up doing his prison sentence.

Maybe this is why MG is taking his sweet time putting this case together. To make sure when he closes the lid on him, it will be shut, tight, and stay locked up fir the rest of his natural life. L

All one can do is pray this is correct.

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ScannyDo's avatar

Thanks for this link. One account I follow on Twitter has brought up —a few times— the fact that AFTER Trump took all those documents, a number of our secret agents abroad were murdered. Is there a link? Did tfg tip off their undercover identities to our adversaries? Tfg is capable of anything. He is absolutely corrupt.

https://www.trtworld.com/americas/nyt-report-rival-agencies-killed-captured-busted-dozens-of-cia-spies-50537/amp

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/us/politics/cia-informants-killed-captured.html

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J L Graham's avatar

Sociopath. No conscience. Modern Republicans are into that.

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Mike S's avatar

yes,

WHILE Trump was in office the rate death rate of overseas CIA agents went way, way up in both China and Russia.

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

It wouldn’t surprise me if DJT hadn’t already just given copies of all these “top secret”, “classified”, documents to the idiots in Russia, North Korea, and China, just to mention a few. He’s that crazy, and in their pockets. Deep!!!

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Steve Abbott's avatar

Knowing what motivates Trump, I would also say that at least some of the classified, secret, and top secret documents were stolen to be used as leverage (i.e. blackmail) if needed later. Kind of like insurance for sociopaths.

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Daniel L. Cooper's avatar

I agree. He’s been that way all his career. The f******g crook!!!

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Ted's avatar

Narcissists all share this weird quirk. Tfg like Putin is also a kleptomaniac. We are surprised and shocked because we typically do not allow narcissists to become our leaders. SM and entertainment tv can falsely package a person as a “successful businessman and a “Patriot”, but this is a fictional character created by PR experts and tv show producers. They have the ability to camouflage personality faults and hide their true character. Paul Manafort new how to do this. He was successful convincing Ukrainians that Victor Yanokovich was somehow good for democracy and for the people of Ukraine when actually he was always a Russian gangster and Putin stooge.

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Jeff Carpenter's avatar

❗️ ❗️ ❗️

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Patrice Fitzgerald's avatar

I’m so glad you’re posting this early. We value what you do so much, and I worry that you push yourself day after day. Also… I tend to stay up until I see your post for each day! We all need our sleep. 🤗

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Chuck Lavazzi's avatar

"Greene’s downplaying her statement after criticism from the White House suggests she is getting nervous about her role in the attack on the Capitol, or at least trying to distance herself from it." Unfortunately for her, she's too stupid to keep her trap shut in the first place.

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MLMinET's avatar

I’d love to see her get good and nervous.

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Mike S's avatar

Stephen,

First, Trump attempted to have his own Vice President hung on Jan 06 and his only consequence was exile at Mara Lago for some golf lesssons and liesurely reading of classified documents (if he can read).

So, why get excited about MJT just talking about violence?

Obviously, sponsoring violence on our Capitol is TOTALLY OK.

Right? Trump has suffered ZERO consequences for attempting to kill his Vice President.

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Michael Bales's avatar

She also once called it “marshall law.”

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Karen RN's avatar

I think they must have been grown in peach-tree dishes spawned by Jewish space lasers

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Ally House (Oregon)'s avatar

🤣😂🤣

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Pat Cole's avatar

Peach-tree dishes? And we give you carte blanch with needles?

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Karen RN's avatar

Those were Marge traitor’s words not mine. It was her rendition of spelling Petri dish.

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Pat Cole's avatar

You must realize that her rendition of petri-dish means feeding the dogs. Your paraphrase was brilliant, shiny, illuminating and put you in circles of influence that you can’t finagle out of. I realize many in Oregon have a propensity to duck!

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Karen RN's avatar

😹 love it Pat! Ducking is quite popular here.

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Sharon Stearley's avatar

Thank you Heather!

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Karin J. Olsen Campia's avatar

There does seem to be light at the end of the tunnel! Thanks ever so much, Heather, for your insightful and thoughtful writings! It is great to know that the wheels of justice are turning, however slowly, towards the light. My dad has said to me many times, "Don't worry, dear girl, #45 will sink his own ship." :+)

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Peter Pappas's avatar

The GOP is self-destructing before our eyes.

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Jen Schaefer's avatar

From your keyboard to God’s ears!!!

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Jen Schaefer's avatar

True, however, many of the electorate on both sides are influenced by their faith. As a person of faith. I believe I am called to be a good citizen. My prayer is that truth and Justice and peace will prevail.

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Mike S's avatar

Or? Are they destroying the United States?

Remember, one day before that last election everyone on this board was on the edge our seat that "Democracy", such as it is here, might be over for good.

And, we SQUEAKED by with 0.01% vote margins.

The GOP is anything but destructing. It is planning. It is buying local election people, it is packing the courts.

The GOP is not planning on doing anything but winning.

And, half of America is on their team.

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Ted's avatar

Agree but not half. Half of voters is not the same as 1/2 of all people. 30 to 40% maybe, but around 1/2 of Americans do not vote.

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Ann W's avatar

My guess is that the executive committee of the Texas Republicans wants someone even more closely tied to Trump; Ronna McD has edged away from him on some occasions. (But I'd like to be wrong in my assumptions; hopeful that even Texas GOP has begun to see the destruction tfg has created for the party.)

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