Not to throw any ice cold water on your comment, Mike, because I believe completely in the spirit of your post. But I feel compelled to correct what I believe is misinformation deliberately spread by the “Tr*mp Republicans”.
Simply, Critical Race Theory will never be taught in our schools. It’s a graduate level Theory, can affect theori…
Not to throw any ice cold water on your comment, Mike, because I believe completely in the spirit of your post. But I feel compelled to correct what I believe is misinformation deliberately spread by the “Tr*mp Republicans”.
Simply, Critical Race Theory will never be taught in our schools. It’s a graduate level Theory, can affect theories and action in other humanities. It’s not a noun or a thing that can become a curriculum product.
Teachers that study this theory can learn much about bias and integrate in their teaching approach.
Critical Race Theory is like the Theory of Evolution, or the Theory of Relativity. You don't need to teach tensors and covariant derivatives to teach relativity, though you do need to learn them if you intend to work in the field.
Any time a teacher asserts that "species change over time, including the human species," they are teaching the theory of evolution, and flying directly in the face of the Christian/Medieval doctrine of "as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end."
Any time a teacher asserts that the deck is rigged against non-white people in the US, they are teaching critical race theory, and flying in the face of the American doctrine of "equal opportunity."
Oh, I see. You went straight to hyperbole and I wasn't expecting it. And I really wasn't clear.
Clarification: in my schooling (back at the dawn of time), history was part of "social studies," and was a strange jumble of disparate "facts" that had nothing to do with anything. I can still tell you that the chief export of Bolivia was tin. I have no context for why this was worth remembering. I don't remember any of the dates, or succession, of English Kings we were expected to memorize to pass tests. When it came to American history, which wasn't taught until high school, it was patently obvious that it was a hagiography, not a history.
When you said (above) "just saying these things happened," I'm thinking, "yes, add these things to the laundry list of stuff to memorize for the test and then forget because there's no context."
I don't see how you could teach about the Tulsa Massacre without bringing up the threat that affluent blacks represented to the white people, and you can't explain why that was a threat without talking about the US history of slavery, the Jim Crow period, and the idea of white privilege, which is the core of what was threatened by affluent (uppity) blacks.
The Tulsa Massacre doesn't make any sense outside the context of Jim Crow, which brings up ALL the barriers placed in the way of black people. You are now talking about systems of oppression, rather than acts of individual racists, and -- if I understand the term -- you are now talking about Critical Race Theory. Not at the graduate level, of course.
You bring up a deeper point. If teachers just say "these things happened," they aren't really teaching anything at all. It's one of the reasons kids grow up hating history, because they aren't really taught history, which is not about disconnected events and dates, but about relationships, and patterns, and the "rhyme" that unites recurrent themes.
Of course, you tailor the subject to the student. You don't teach a kindergarten child about the Tusla Massacre.
I wonder which next thing that the treasonous lying bullsh*t mouthpieces will use to demonize people of color and rile up the white people to be “afraid” of black peopke taking everything from them.
Maybe it will something about “soul food” or “soul music” taking over Christian souls.
No, we didn’t destroy them. They are here doing good work, thinking wise thoughts, making great art, surviving. If we ‘destroyed them’ where did Obama, Keith Ellison, Cori Bush, Audrey Lorde, MLK, John Lewis, Harriet Tubman, John Coltrane, Nina Simone, Robin Wall Kimmerer, Sherman Alexie, Louise Erdrich, Deb Haaland, Scott Momaday, Buffy St Marie and Black Elk come from? We white people made their lives hard and took from them everything they loved, yes, but don’t seem to know how to destroy them.
But I think it's important to address the idea of slavery early. Wasn't their choice. Then we "Freed" them, and began suppressing their rights over all? And how to you grow from there when it is so difficult to start from scratch. And not to sound like it was a given favor. We let every other "nationality" into this country. And yes all had difficulties, but ones color of their skin became an insurmountable hurdle. Yes we've done good, but we can do so much more. Just my thoughts, but until you experience racism, or any kind of suppression, one just can't understand totally. WE cab't turn our heads. And right now we are. I remember when Hunter Thompson, in his book "On the campaign Trail, "72", interviewed Nixon and asked him, "But what about the doomed sir?". He replied, " Eff the doomed". I believe many are feeling the same way. And it makes me sad, and angry. Again. If you have give. Peace all. ( I know there are two sides, but in the middle is what counts. Lets meet there).
Mike yes yes yes, 100% agreement! I didn't intend my comment as a defense of White people or their dominance! I meant it as respect to the enslaved people and the indigenous inhabitants, that they could survive cruelty and barbarism as great as we know it to be, that they could triumph over it to that degree. They hold all the moral cards. It is centuries past time for reparations but we must be active about seeing to it that serious discussion takes place while Democrats are quasi-powerful in Congress. That topic has gone totally silent, after a lot of media attention last year.
Not even that. The Indians I know still speak their languages, hunt, raise horses, grow corn and beans. One resurrected the Wampanoag language at MIT weith Chomsky's help,from a single surving early 18th-century bilingual New Testament and taught it to her infant daughter, whose first lanuage it was--after 2 centuries! and it's spreading. Lots don't, I know: Euro-Americans (including Canadians) tried hard to make them ignorant of their way of life and their languages, basically kidpnapping them into boarding schools for that purpose, "Indian Schools." I'm just saying they persisted, and worked from traces, and treasured the old people who remembered, and in some areas were not even deracinated, like northern British Columbia etc. And they are scholars, writing their own histories now. Bravo!
Not to throw any ice cold water on your comment, Mike, because I believe completely in the spirit of your post. But I feel compelled to correct what I believe is misinformation deliberately spread by the “Tr*mp Republicans”.
Simply, Critical Race Theory will never be taught in our schools. It’s a graduate level Theory, can affect theories and action in other humanities. It’s not a noun or a thing that can become a curriculum product.
Teachers that study this theory can learn much about bias and integrate in their teaching approach.
Critical Race Theory is like the Theory of Evolution, or the Theory of Relativity. You don't need to teach tensors and covariant derivatives to teach relativity, though you do need to learn them if you intend to work in the field.
Any time a teacher asserts that "species change over time, including the human species," they are teaching the theory of evolution, and flying directly in the face of the Christian/Medieval doctrine of "as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end."
Any time a teacher asserts that the deck is rigged against non-white people in the US, they are teaching critical race theory, and flying in the face of the American doctrine of "equal opportunity."
I don't assume they're teaching the deck is rigged or asserting? Just saying these things happened. And we did them. And we can be better.
Oh, I see. You went straight to hyperbole and I wasn't expecting it. And I really wasn't clear.
Clarification: in my schooling (back at the dawn of time), history was part of "social studies," and was a strange jumble of disparate "facts" that had nothing to do with anything. I can still tell you that the chief export of Bolivia was tin. I have no context for why this was worth remembering. I don't remember any of the dates, or succession, of English Kings we were expected to memorize to pass tests. When it came to American history, which wasn't taught until high school, it was patently obvious that it was a hagiography, not a history.
When you said (above) "just saying these things happened," I'm thinking, "yes, add these things to the laundry list of stuff to memorize for the test and then forget because there's no context."
I don't see how you could teach about the Tulsa Massacre without bringing up the threat that affluent blacks represented to the white people, and you can't explain why that was a threat without talking about the US history of slavery, the Jim Crow period, and the idea of white privilege, which is the core of what was threatened by affluent (uppity) blacks.
The Tulsa Massacre doesn't make any sense outside the context of Jim Crow, which brings up ALL the barriers placed in the way of black people. You are now talking about systems of oppression, rather than acts of individual racists, and -- if I understand the term -- you are now talking about Critical Race Theory. Not at the graduate level, of course.
You bring up a deeper point. If teachers just say "these things happened," they aren't really teaching anything at all. It's one of the reasons kids grow up hating history, because they aren't really taught history, which is not about disconnected events and dates, but about relationships, and patterns, and the "rhyme" that unites recurrent themes.
Of course, you tailor the subject to the student. You don't teach a kindergarten child about the Tusla Massacre.
Not to be a jerk, But you teach them Jesus walked on water?
??? Sorry, not getting the point.
We teach some interesting theories in regard to religion. At an early age. What is your point sir and I asked that with respect.
I'm not sure where religious teaching came into this thread.
I wonder which next thing that the treasonous lying bullsh*t mouthpieces will use to demonize people of color and rile up the white people to be “afraid” of black peopke taking everything from them.
Maybe it will something about “soul food” or “soul music” taking over Christian souls.
Fools.
I understand. I just saying the simple bold truth. And about or native peoples. We destroyed 2 races.
No, we didn’t destroy them. They are here doing good work, thinking wise thoughts, making great art, surviving. If we ‘destroyed them’ where did Obama, Keith Ellison, Cori Bush, Audrey Lorde, MLK, John Lewis, Harriet Tubman, John Coltrane, Nina Simone, Robin Wall Kimmerer, Sherman Alexie, Louise Erdrich, Deb Haaland, Scott Momaday, Buffy St Marie and Black Elk come from? We white people made their lives hard and took from them everything they loved, yes, but don’t seem to know how to destroy them.
But I think it's important to address the idea of slavery early. Wasn't their choice. Then we "Freed" them, and began suppressing their rights over all? And how to you grow from there when it is so difficult to start from scratch. And not to sound like it was a given favor. We let every other "nationality" into this country. And yes all had difficulties, but ones color of their skin became an insurmountable hurdle. Yes we've done good, but we can do so much more. Just my thoughts, but until you experience racism, or any kind of suppression, one just can't understand totally. WE cab't turn our heads. And right now we are. I remember when Hunter Thompson, in his book "On the campaign Trail, "72", interviewed Nixon and asked him, "But what about the doomed sir?". He replied, " Eff the doomed". I believe many are feeling the same way. And it makes me sad, and angry. Again. If you have give. Peace all. ( I know there are two sides, but in the middle is what counts. Lets meet there).
Mike yes yes yes, 100% agreement! I didn't intend my comment as a defense of White people or their dominance! I meant it as respect to the enslaved people and the indigenous inhabitants, that they could survive cruelty and barbarism as great as we know it to be, that they could triumph over it to that degree. They hold all the moral cards. It is centuries past time for reparations but we must be active about seeing to it that serious discussion takes place while Democrats are quasi-powerful in Congress. That topic has gone totally silent, after a lot of media attention last year.
OK, fair enough. I stand corrected. We destroyed their way of life.
Not even that. The Indians I know still speak their languages, hunt, raise horses, grow corn and beans. One resurrected the Wampanoag language at MIT weith Chomsky's help,from a single surving early 18th-century bilingual New Testament and taught it to her infant daughter, whose first lanuage it was--after 2 centuries! and it's spreading. Lots don't, I know: Euro-Americans (including Canadians) tried hard to make them ignorant of their way of life and their languages, basically kidpnapping them into boarding schools for that purpose, "Indian Schools." I'm just saying they persisted, and worked from traces, and treasured the old people who remembered, and in some areas were not even deracinated, like northern British Columbia etc. And they are scholars, writing their own histories now. Bravo!