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Cathy Learoyd (Texas)'s avatar

I hope out of this we stop seeing wars as solutions to anything. A retired Air Force colonel one said to me that the military's job was to keep the peace, not to make war. That has always stuck with me. Unfortunately, just like drug lords are economically dependent on selling drugs no matter what the cost is to the populace; the Defense Contractors are economically dependent on selling weapons again at a very high cost to the populace. The politicians are addicted to these campaign donors.

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Ellie Kona's avatar

Today I saw a Facebook comment pointing out that criticism of the USPS for losing money is unwarranted: "It's a service. It doesn't lose money. It costs money. No one says the military loses $750b a year." (Thank you, Joan.)

With Republican moves toward privatization of public services USPS, education, and the military, can we imagine reading, "The privatized military is successfully operating at a profit." Or how profit motive, rather than national defense, would be governing life and death decision-making on a worldwide scale???

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kim  CR🌈🌴😎's avatar

This profit motive rules "healthcare"

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Ellie Kona's avatar

You are so sadly, tragically right. "Medical necessity" correlates to medical practitioners' profit, not to mention insurance companies.

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Susan's avatar

Medicare Advantage plans are a great example of privatization of healthcare. They are paid by the number of people enrolled in their plan. The insurance companies use the Medicare dollars to advertise their plan to sell it. The more enrollees the more money they are paid. If you are a high user they will offer you a free work up then you can be part of the high risk pool and the for profit insurance company will be paid more money by Medicare for those patients. They make their money my limiting tests and interventions. They sell their plans by the perks like meals after a hospital stay. I would rather have my healthcare dollars go to providing healthcare than advertising plans so they can make profits.

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MLMinET's avatar

I’m very happy with my MC plan. β€œPerks” like vision and dental coverage, which are not covered by standard Medicare, add to my overall health status. I’ve got holistic coverage rather than piecemeal coverage.

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Ken B's avatar

They're great plans until you get sick. That's when you find out that copays are much higher than standard Medicare.

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Diane Love (St Petersburg FL)'s avatar

Exactly. And their networks can be entirely inadequate, especially in less populated areas.

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Cathy Mc. (MO)'s avatar

Same experience for me, and copays or my share has always seemed fair, in the years where health events happened

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Danielle (NM)'s avatar

My Medicare Advantage plan has been more than reasonable in covering my care. Aside from the year-long delays in getting from a vertebrae displacement, requiring numerous hoops to go through before authorizing the necessary surgery, my copays were $30/doctor visits, $0/MRIs, $10/PT visits , $100/spinal injection, and $250/surgery & 2 day hospital stay. I added up all the charges on the various statements I received for the surgery and they totaled $105,000. They are losing money on me.

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Susan's avatar

As a provider the authorization process and having to justify why the patient needs the procedure to the insurance company is all about the insurance making money by denying services. If you decide you are not happy with your advantage plan after 3 years then supplemental plans have the right to deny you coverage based on pre existing conditions . Many specialists are not willing to be on their panels because of this. They also reimburse the providers at a lower rate and if the paper trail is not complete the provider is denied payment for their services. Where I live it was impossible to find mental health providers who would accept the advantage plans.

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KKimmins's avatar

You are so right Susan! I have standard Medicare and a great supplemental plan that pay 100% of my copays. It’s not that expensive when you factor in what copays can expand to. Sure, I had to get separate vision but I am receiving the best mental health care of my life! There have been no caps on the number of visits as with our previous corporate employee (very expensive) insurance and of course no copays. It has certainly been an important shift in my life.

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KKimmins's avatar

But of course Medicare for All is the way to go. It has and will be quite an uphill battle that I may not see to resolution

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Beth's avatar

I was recently gobsmacked to learn that a routine blood test for cancer was not routinely covered by a patient's Medicare coverage (no idea which plan she has) even though she has a history of cancer!

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Lanita Grice (WA, the state)'s avatar

From the wide variance in responses, it seems that the disparities among communities, providers, and companies point to the real problems with MA plans - there is no equity. I believe the impetus for Medicare-for-all is that there would be equity of benefit and that doesn't seem possible with private insurance staying in the mix and with differences between states. We older white folx with decent coverage in areas with plenty of providers in our plans' networks feel no need to change because we may be getting better coverage than we've ever had before in our long lives. However, it's clear even from this small sampling that there is a big equity issue when the entirety of those "covered" is considered.

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Barbara D. Reed's avatar

For me, it was a no-brainer to sign up for the County provided PPO medicare supplement. My monthly payment is $385 but I've had no co-pays other than for my meds, no charges for labs etc. The only significant bills since 2014 have been $200 for my knee replacement surgery and $90 for meds (I brought all my own meds with me) during my 2 week nursing home stay (which WAS covered!) after the replacement and $650 for a ceramic crown on my dental coverage (that was my co-pay; the total was $1300) (My 35 years as a nurse @ the County Nursing Home has served me well.)

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Joan Friedman (MA, from NY)'s avatar

It often does. The US war in Iraq, Geo W edition, was sold to the country based on lies. It’s real purpose was twofold: family feud between the Bushes and Saddam Hussein, and opportunities for war profiteering.

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Mary McGee Heins's avatar

And W advanced into Iraq to protect US access to oil.

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Lynell(VA by way of MD&DC)'s avatar

Gee, Ellie, a private military? It's eye-popping when you put it that way.

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L duffy's avatar

THIS, is the eye popping immorality of our current "military". When we don't have enough volunteer soldiers to do our bidding, we hire out the job(s). We enlist and train our soldiers on the idealism and patriotism of defending our country. They work ALONGSIDE their buddies who are "private contractors". Their buddies make at least 5x the salary our soldiers make. Our soldiers do not "reup" when their enlistment is over, instead, they do the same job they had been doing, except now they're bringing home $200,000/yr instead of $40,000. Who can blame them?

I am glad we're out. Maybe we'll need a draft in our next war, then I predict we won't be fighting for 20 years.

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Danielle (NM)'s avatar

The draft was the basis for much of the anti war sentiment among the young adults in the 60s. There was great resentment of the college deferments from those who didn’t attend college, and a growing understanding of the inequity among those who did. All supported by the music of the day.

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L duffy's avatar

Exactly.

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Lanita Grice (WA, the state)'s avatar

Re-instituting a draft will be effective only if the sons and daughters of the Senators, Representatives, and military-industrial complex are not allowed exemptions because of bone spurs or other doubtful disqualifiers.

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Christy's avatar

GOP is willing to pay private soldiers good wages to make sure their personal military remains loyal to them.

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Lanita Grice (WA, the state)'s avatar

This has been a well-covered reality since the stories about Blackwater came out in 2003.

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Beth's avatar

I know next to nothing about this, but I've heard that privatization of the prison system isn't going very well.

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Barbara D. Reed's avatar

The prison owners are doing just fine, the inmates, not so much.

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Cathy Mc. (MO)'s avatar

Very good points, Ellie

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Barbara D. Reed's avatar

(As far as USPS, a goodly part of the money losses is a result of the "pre-paid" requirement for pensions.)

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Christine (FL)'s avatar

President Biden’s one statement days ago, and not highlighted at all in any media source that I saw was this. Wars cannot be waged anymore to counter terrorism. There is technology, there are intelligence and counter-measures now that are more effective and that will be pursued over war on the ground.

If one really engages with younger generation on war, this is usually their comment including words like β€œold school” or comments like β€œstupid people killing war machine”. At this point I usually ask them if they are referring to the military industrial complex. β€œYeah, guns and money.” Mentioned hundreds of times in their music and domestically on our streets.

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Linda Mitchell, KCMO's avatar

It is also important for legit news outlets to stop pandering to the lies of Crocker and Panetta, who are both--inexplicably in my book so they have to be on someone's payroll--gleefully trying to destroy Biden.

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Lynell(VA by way of MD&DC)'s avatar

Everything you've "said" here today, Cathy, really resonates with me. Sorry for all my "Likes" you have to deal with!

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