I wince whenever I see the word "President" anywhere near that name. He was an embarrassing fake, a fraud, a very dirty trick, a piece of sabotage. It should never have happened, and when people like Linda tried to warn, they were treated like Cassandra.
I wince whenever I see the word "President" anywhere near that name. He was an embarrassing fake, a fraud, a very dirty trick, a piece of sabotage. It should never have happened, and when people like Linda tried to warn, they were treated like Cassandra.
I say that he was "installed." He never won the popular vote and he had a lot of
hostile domestic and foreign entities interfering. When he kept saying if he "did not win, the election is rigged," anyone who understands brainwashing projection knew he knew things were being rigged in his favor. I believe he was installed into position. Rachel Maddow had information on all of this early on who the oligarchs were who were positioning and funding Manafort, Bannon, Conway and Co.. I do hope someone has been investigating 2016 deeply. T'would be lovely to make the entire rethuglican party and their dictator's stain on our Oval office seat and all their actions for the past 7 years completely null and void. And as the party of the coup d'etat, they pay every penny back we/they spent on their skulduggery plus extra for pain, suffering and deaths caused by their actions.
And to make sure I used skulduggery correctly in this instance—I looked it up: "Skulduggery is dishonest words that are meant to trick people, like your brother's fast-talking that leaves you doing all of his chores and your own, plus giving him your allowance." He's a master of skulduggery. So perfectly fits the maga cult-leader and many of his propaganda cronies, no?
Yes. I agree that he did not win the popular election and the electoral college is some antiquated piece of garbage that gives voice to the rural over the urban. Bush and Trump were placed in by this horrendous tool, which Trump is poised to manipulate. When Gore did not win because of Florida, Dems did not go stop the steal, like we should have. Then Nader was the third party spoiler. I wonder if he is able to feel badly about the role he has played in the destruction of our environment. If Gore had become president we would have had a different environmental trajectory. Also, given how Tipper was so big into protecting children from television and songs, I would imagine there would have been much greater efforts made to protect us all from the technology running our lives. I do not consider the midterms legitimate, but have been analyzing the immigration patterns to see how a preponderance of immigrants from post Soviet European countries, and so called socialist Latin American countries has converged to make us much more conservative as a nation. Unfortunately not everyone who leaves a fascist country knows how to live in or understand a democracy.
Linda, I think about that travesty with Bush installed over Gore all the time, and how this climate tragedy would have been a priority for decades, now. It's heartbreaking. I agree 100%, we should have been all hands on deck to stop that steal.
I think it's more accurate to say that the Supreme Court stole the 2000 election for Bush2, but that's a quibble. I've been an activist on immigration for two decades, which I consider big biz' way of reducing wages, as well as a major environmental problem--the average immigrant's greenhouse emissions rise threefold after arrival in the US, as we're the major industrialized nation with the greatest per capita GH emissions and thus the worst place on the planet to put more people, and if you've come up with something solid suggesting that immigration is making us much more conservative, I'd be very interested to speak with you. The email I give out in public places is supernova1@aol.com--email me there and I'll give you my phone number.
Yes, Roger Stone created the chaos to enable the Supreme Court to steal the election after Federalist Society puppies, Brett and Amy, traveled to Florida to "help count" the ballots. It was all a scam. As to immigration issues, I am not up on the environmental impact of immigrant labor, but it makes sense. I do have 2 friends who are immigration lawyers and their stories are heartbreaking.
The Electoral College was part of the set of compromises that made the Union possible in the first place. Does messing with it risk undermining the Union?
Anne-Louise Luccarini; I wish Trump had never been elected. IMO and of others, if Hillary had won, there would have been no Covid Crap. There would not have been four years of "Russian Interference" BS and two impeachments.
Sure, Hillary might have started WW III sooner than Biden but so what?
All Trump did was delay the shit coming by four years. I'm not getting any younger and the past three years were total shite.
It is helpful to try to look at where we are today as a positive in that every brick in the foundation of America has dark, smelly issues etched into them and we are now having to finally face their impacts in these modern times. It is our turn to look at ourselves as country and do some soul-searching in who we are and who we want to be. We must face our shadows of racism, bigotry, misogyny, xenophobia, gender phobias, immature narcissism, white privilege and corporate domination and invasive algorithms. All of this impacts what we are taught and intentionally not taught. How we live in this century of rapid technology whose impact and control upon us is barely beginning to be understood on a mass level. We need to re-create America and bring her up to date with stricter laws, swifter justice, facts, and educate people on our real history, hone critical thinking skills and our responsibilities to one another and to a planet that cannot sustain this level of greed. The old days of white, colonial, corporate domination and the days of keeping women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen are over.
We are hearing the screams and smelling the stinking lies of the dominators who feel the death knell of those days and desperately want them back. We must deal with all our isms in this huge melting pot of multi-tinted citizens. Our form of democracy may have to look different if people cannot mutually respect rules, laws, one another and this sphere we live upon. I have no interest to return to the wild west nor to some fearful, apocalyptic vision of the future where everyone has concealed weapons and fights like hell for scraps. Let's move towards a future of decency instead of scarcity, fear and ignorance.
Pensa, this assessment is accurate. Until we (as a country) address that our rise to power (which was meteoric for the times) has as its foundation the theft of Indigenous Lands and the near genocide of the Indigenous Peoples combined with the kidnapping and enslavement of Black Africans, we cannot move forward through the sludge of presumed white supremacy and Christian dogma (as adopted by Christian Nationalists). Then we can address the other "isms" of gender, class, and orientation.
My brother and his family just moved to Singapore where safety is extremely important and they give up certain rights to maintain that safety. I am in the process of studying how they have no crime and poor behavior is checked swiftly. I would like to understand their system since they are a huge melting pot of people from around the world. (rather wealthy). I would give up certain rights if we could stop the constant massacres of American children... and abuses of the 1st Amendment that has now moved into mass brainwashing.
My guess is that there is no Bill of Rights in Singapore, no rules of evidence.
There is no reason to give up "certain rights" when the issue you refer to is purely one of the Republican party's making. Your comment is flirting with authoritarianism.
I stated that I said I was studying Singapore, I did not say I understand how their system operates. You are guessing and making assumptions about who/what I am flirting with. My mind is very open to questioning what works and does not work. Currently, America's system is not working well and needs major checks and balances for authoritarian despots. That does not mean we have to allow thugs to rule our country. Let's find or create the best that will work for All The People.
It was what you said about how "certain rights" are sacrificed made me remember Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." I was also taken aback by what you said about people who misbehave being dealt with quickly.
I was not guessing. And a democracy does not need checks and balances for despots because democracies, as a rule, don't have despots. And wow, the sentence about thugs is hyperbolic. Perhaps you've forgotten that almost every democracy in modern times has been modeled after ours.
Pensa_VT: I agree with most of your comment. Unfortunately every country on Earth has bricks with dark smelly issues etched in them.
Saying you are against racism and then mentioning "white privilege" and "white...domination" just feeds the fire. Race is a myth, a lie, developed by the eugenicists.
You are defeating your own arguments by putting "white" or any other skin color in your arguments. I try hard not to do that. It sometimes slips in anyway. So many people use color of skin to describe people. It's eugenics propaganda.
I agree with you that Americans need to learn about the past. Don't destroy it or bury. Don't tear down statues and cancel history. How do we learn where we came from?
Oliver Cromwell sent 50,000 Irish slaves to the American colonies during his invasion of Ireland in 1649-52. The Irish slaves were free. The African slaves cost money. But all people hear and read about are the African slaves.
Free Africans in the colonies owned both Irish and African slaves. In the Caribbean the Irish and African slaves united in slave revolts. The first person to petition the Virginia House of Burgess to make the buying of African slaves legal in Virginia was a free African man himself who also owned Irish slaves.
And this myth about male domination keeping women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen is something I've never run into. I agree with Terry Thomas in the film "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World". America is the biggest matriarchy on the planet. Women sit under hair dryers eating bon-bons gabbing away while their husbands work themselves to death and die early from heart attacks.
That was one of life's worst shocks. She had outclassed him in absolutely every field. He'd displayed himself as an ignorant oaf. How could it have happened? Then we started finding out.
Anne_Louise Luccarini: Barrack Obama chastised Hillary for not going to Wisconsin, Michigan, and the other swing states in 2016. Hillary believed the polling data. She got lazy. Trump is a lot of things but he isn't lazy. The guy is a dynamo of energy. Trump campaigned hard.
Plus, all the media coverage (hatred) of Trump just gave him millions of dollars of free advertising.
The Democrats lost that election through stupidity and hubris.
I wince whenever I see the word "President" anywhere near that name. He was an embarrassing fake, a fraud, a very dirty trick, a piece of sabotage. It should never have happened, and when people like Linda tried to warn, they were treated like Cassandra.
I say that he was "installed." He never won the popular vote and he had a lot of
hostile domestic and foreign entities interfering. When he kept saying if he "did not win, the election is rigged," anyone who understands brainwashing projection knew he knew things were being rigged in his favor. I believe he was installed into position. Rachel Maddow had information on all of this early on who the oligarchs were who were positioning and funding Manafort, Bannon, Conway and Co.. I do hope someone has been investigating 2016 deeply. T'would be lovely to make the entire rethuglican party and their dictator's stain on our Oval office seat and all their actions for the past 7 years completely null and void. And as the party of the coup d'etat, they pay every penny back we/they spent on their skulduggery plus extra for pain, suffering and deaths caused by their actions.
And to make sure I used skulduggery correctly in this instance—I looked it up: "Skulduggery is dishonest words that are meant to trick people, like your brother's fast-talking that leaves you doing all of his chores and your own, plus giving him your allowance." He's a master of skulduggery. So perfectly fits the maga cult-leader and many of his propaganda cronies, no?
Yes. I agree that he did not win the popular election and the electoral college is some antiquated piece of garbage that gives voice to the rural over the urban. Bush and Trump were placed in by this horrendous tool, which Trump is poised to manipulate. When Gore did not win because of Florida, Dems did not go stop the steal, like we should have. Then Nader was the third party spoiler. I wonder if he is able to feel badly about the role he has played in the destruction of our environment. If Gore had become president we would have had a different environmental trajectory. Also, given how Tipper was so big into protecting children from television and songs, I would imagine there would have been much greater efforts made to protect us all from the technology running our lives. I do not consider the midterms legitimate, but have been analyzing the immigration patterns to see how a preponderance of immigrants from post Soviet European countries, and so called socialist Latin American countries has converged to make us much more conservative as a nation. Unfortunately not everyone who leaves a fascist country knows how to live in or understand a democracy.
Linda, I think about that travesty with Bush installed over Gore all the time, and how this climate tragedy would have been a priority for decades, now. It's heartbreaking. I agree 100%, we should have been all hands on deck to stop that steal.
A well orchestrated parade in 2000 in Florida has Canadian forests burning in 2023.
2000 Florida recount: How the 'Brooks Brothers Riot' killed the Bush-Gore ... https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2018/11/15/its-insanity-how-brooks-brothers-riot-killed-recount-miami/
I think it's more accurate to say that the Supreme Court stole the 2000 election for Bush2, but that's a quibble. I've been an activist on immigration for two decades, which I consider big biz' way of reducing wages, as well as a major environmental problem--the average immigrant's greenhouse emissions rise threefold after arrival in the US, as we're the major industrialized nation with the greatest per capita GH emissions and thus the worst place on the planet to put more people, and if you've come up with something solid suggesting that immigration is making us much more conservative, I'd be very interested to speak with you. The email I give out in public places is supernova1@aol.com--email me there and I'll give you my phone number.
Yes, Roger Stone created the chaos to enable the Supreme Court to steal the election after Federalist Society puppies, Brett and Amy, traveled to Florida to "help count" the ballots. It was all a scam. As to immigration issues, I am not up on the environmental impact of immigrant labor, but it makes sense. I do have 2 friends who are immigration lawyers and their stories are heartbreaking.
The Electoral College was part of the set of compromises that made the Union possible in the first place. Does messing with it risk undermining the Union?
“Skulduggery!” I’ll have to remember that one to apply within any future reference to tfg. Thank you!
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
In addition to our home grown oligarchs "installing tRump", Putin and his fellow Russian Yacht Brigade contributed to the coronation.
Anne-Louise Luccarini; I wish Trump had never been elected. IMO and of others, if Hillary had won, there would have been no Covid Crap. There would not have been four years of "Russian Interference" BS and two impeachments.
Sure, Hillary might have started WW III sooner than Biden but so what?
All Trump did was delay the shit coming by four years. I'm not getting any younger and the past three years were total shite.
It is helpful to try to look at where we are today as a positive in that every brick in the foundation of America has dark, smelly issues etched into them and we are now having to finally face their impacts in these modern times. It is our turn to look at ourselves as country and do some soul-searching in who we are and who we want to be. We must face our shadows of racism, bigotry, misogyny, xenophobia, gender phobias, immature narcissism, white privilege and corporate domination and invasive algorithms. All of this impacts what we are taught and intentionally not taught. How we live in this century of rapid technology whose impact and control upon us is barely beginning to be understood on a mass level. We need to re-create America and bring her up to date with stricter laws, swifter justice, facts, and educate people on our real history, hone critical thinking skills and our responsibilities to one another and to a planet that cannot sustain this level of greed. The old days of white, colonial, corporate domination and the days of keeping women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen are over.
We are hearing the screams and smelling the stinking lies of the dominators who feel the death knell of those days and desperately want them back. We must deal with all our isms in this huge melting pot of multi-tinted citizens. Our form of democracy may have to look different if people cannot mutually respect rules, laws, one another and this sphere we live upon. I have no interest to return to the wild west nor to some fearful, apocalyptic vision of the future where everyone has concealed weapons and fights like hell for scraps. Let's move towards a future of decency instead of scarcity, fear and ignorance.
Pensa, this assessment is accurate. Until we (as a country) address that our rise to power (which was meteoric for the times) has as its foundation the theft of Indigenous Lands and the near genocide of the Indigenous Peoples combined with the kidnapping and enslavement of Black Africans, we cannot move forward through the sludge of presumed white supremacy and Christian dogma (as adopted by Christian Nationalists). Then we can address the other "isms" of gender, class, and orientation.
Unresolved national trauma which is now showing its' 'shadow side.'
Well said.
Thank you for your inspiring vision of a renewed nation.
My brother and his family just moved to Singapore where safety is extremely important and they give up certain rights to maintain that safety. I am in the process of studying how they have no crime and poor behavior is checked swiftly. I would like to understand their system since they are a huge melting pot of people from around the world. (rather wealthy). I would give up certain rights if we could stop the constant massacres of American children... and abuses of the 1st Amendment that has now moved into mass brainwashing.
My guess is that there is no Bill of Rights in Singapore, no rules of evidence.
There is no reason to give up "certain rights" when the issue you refer to is purely one of the Republican party's making. Your comment is flirting with authoritarianism.
I stated that I said I was studying Singapore, I did not say I understand how their system operates. You are guessing and making assumptions about who/what I am flirting with. My mind is very open to questioning what works and does not work. Currently, America's system is not working well and needs major checks and balances for authoritarian despots. That does not mean we have to allow thugs to rule our country. Let's find or create the best that will work for All The People.
It was what you said about how "certain rights" are sacrificed made me remember Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." I was also taken aback by what you said about people who misbehave being dealt with quickly.
I was not guessing. And a democracy does not need checks and balances for despots because democracies, as a rule, don't have despots. And wow, the sentence about thugs is hyperbolic. Perhaps you've forgotten that almost every democracy in modern times has been modeled after ours.
Um, parliamentary democracies (India, Israel, etc.) might have been modeled after the British.
Pensa_VT: I agree with most of your comment. Unfortunately every country on Earth has bricks with dark smelly issues etched in them.
Saying you are against racism and then mentioning "white privilege" and "white...domination" just feeds the fire. Race is a myth, a lie, developed by the eugenicists.
You are defeating your own arguments by putting "white" or any other skin color in your arguments. I try hard not to do that. It sometimes slips in anyway. So many people use color of skin to describe people. It's eugenics propaganda.
I agree with you that Americans need to learn about the past. Don't destroy it or bury. Don't tear down statues and cancel history. How do we learn where we came from?
Oliver Cromwell sent 50,000 Irish slaves to the American colonies during his invasion of Ireland in 1649-52. The Irish slaves were free. The African slaves cost money. But all people hear and read about are the African slaves.
Free Africans in the colonies owned both Irish and African slaves. In the Caribbean the Irish and African slaves united in slave revolts. The first person to petition the Virginia House of Burgess to make the buying of African slaves legal in Virginia was a free African man himself who also owned Irish slaves.
And this myth about male domination keeping women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen is something I've never run into. I agree with Terry Thomas in the film "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World". America is the biggest matriarchy on the planet. Women sit under hair dryers eating bon-bons gabbing away while their husbands work themselves to death and die early from heart attacks.
But I agree with most of your comment.
Beautifully said and facing facts of what we have become.
That was one of life's worst shocks. She had outclassed him in absolutely every field. He'd displayed himself as an ignorant oaf. How could it have happened? Then we started finding out.
Anne_Louise Luccarini: Barrack Obama chastised Hillary for not going to Wisconsin, Michigan, and the other swing states in 2016. Hillary believed the polling data. She got lazy. Trump is a lot of things but he isn't lazy. The guy is a dynamo of energy. Trump campaigned hard.
Plus, all the media coverage (hatred) of Trump just gave him millions of dollars of free advertising.
The Democrats lost that election through stupidity and hubris.
I have never called him president. Not once.