Almost six months have passed since President Joe Biden asked Congress to appropriate money for Ukraine in a national security supplemental bill. At first, House Republicans said they would not pass such a bill without border security. Then, when a bipartisan group of senators actually produced a border security provision for the national security bill, they killed it, under orders from former president Trump.
"...we have an out-of-power ex-president who is in effect dictating American foreign policy on behalf of a foreign dictator or with the interests of a foreign dictator in mind.”
This goes beyond merely acting in bad faith and veers towards the criminal.
Every congressperson taking orders from an ex-"president" at the expense of their country is culpable.
How can it possibly be legal for an ex president to work against our current president and weaken our status in the world? And why isn’t anything being done to make sure the majority of America know this is happening? Is anyone doing anything to stop this behavior?
Doesn’t this mean Trump’s envoy, directly, and Trump, indirectly, violated and are repeatedly violating the Logan Act with far-right foreign government, officer, etc.?
“The law reads: “Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”
Would the act of proposing US policy towards these nations should the ex-President regain office, and as we all know he does threaten them to do as he wishes now, in opposition to or with no regard for current US policy?
This is scary but who can suggest introducing Logan’s Law against Trump so that aid can get to Ukraine? If he is imprisoned for 3 years, he cannot legislate especially if he loses the election. Can’t this law be enacted right now?
Gee whiz.. The Logan Act ... " shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both" So, who's going to arrest these guys and send them to prison? Did I miss something here. who has the authority to do that? Where are the grownups?
If you haven't watched "20 Days in Mariupol" yet, you should. If you want to see the actual horrors that Russia inflicted on a peaceful people, watch that film. Share it. Spread it. It is shocking. It is a big part of "why" the U.S. needs to free up assistance for Ukraine.
It is time for us to take extraordinary measures to deal with a criminal rapist with an orange face, a bleached blonde bully that lies almost every time he speaks. The psychopath has taken his fascist approach to seduce the racist element in our country that reacted to two terms of a non-white he claimed was born in Africa. Our former president is simply a psychopath. 70 million races in this country have been seduced by his brand of fascism simply because he ridiculed Obama and objectifies anybody that isn’t white this man is a fascist, he is criminally insane, he’s engaged in dishonest, treasonous activities with the worlds, most dangerous government, and his every action may be described as criminally, insane, and aimed at the destruction of our democracy and our position in the world if this isn’t enough for us to take extraordinary measures, what is? he has destroyed our Supreme Court. He has managed to seduce the wicked elements in our Congress. He has teamed up with various domestic players who understand well how easy it is to trigger racism in the white trash of the United States. This was the case with fascist aviator Charles Lindberg And fascist Catholic priest, father of Detroit we’ve seen this movie before. It took Japan bombing Pearl Harbor for us to address Hitler and Mussolini in Europe. The Japanese saved America from its vicious fascist elements that were threatening the democracy in the 30s. What is going to save us now? How are we going to approach the psychopathic elements in our country? When face with an internal criminal in command of one of our two parties. When faced with a fascist dictator in the making, a pathological liar, making love to other pathological liars around the world, it is insufficient to play the game with Marcus of Queensbury rules. Extraordinary measures are needed. We have an internal Civil War. Abraham Lincoln‘s death left us with Johnson and the Ku Klux Klan. Today we have something worse. We have a bleach blonde Adolf Hitler in the making in common concert with a vicious chiller in Moscow, who thinks nothing of throwing people out windows And poisoning his enemies right left, and set when I say extraordinary measures, I mean it. Somebody with greater power than I must determine what needs to be done to end this threat to our democracy, to our nature and to our children President Biden has done a wonderful job. I wonder if he is capable of dealing with a psychopathic opponent cannot tell the truth and wishes to destroy our nation in Plainview. Clearly, he lacks the vocabulary to say what I am saying here. But it needs to be said and extraordinary actions needs to be taken. Now.
As usual, I'm struck how we direct anger and dismay in the wrong direction. We already understand Trump's intentions to establish a dictatorship in America. What we still DON'T understand is why our State and Justice Departments are complicit. Whey do they deliberately refuse to hold Trump accountable? Why don't they take forceful action when he conspires with foreign leaders? There is no ambiguity. Trump and the Republican Party are traitors. Where the hell are the CIA and FBI? Where the hell is Merrick Garland? Where is President Biden? Why isn't the Democratic Party openly charging the Republican Party as a fifth column—they certainly project that on to the Democrats. Why are our journalists complicit? Why won't mainstream media honestly make a case that Republicans now function as Russian agents? Why do they normalize all reporting with both-sides-ism? Our outrage is misdirected. We should be raging at our government for being too weak to protect our Constitution and protect our elections. We should be raging at news media for being too fearful to proclaim the truth. I mean seriously—how could any patriotic American rationalize letting a former President who plotted and executed an insurrection run for reelection instead of facing immediate prosecution? We're insane!
Trump’s actions are not only unacceptable, but should vault him into prison! He’s never going to acquiesce to our government agencies & will continue to be disruptive in foreign & domestic affairs. That is until he’s stopped in his tracks! He can’t be allowed to play by his rules anymore!
If what is said in this letter is correct shouldn’t it follow that proceedings pursuant to the Logan Act would be taken against Grenell, and Trump, and maybe Speaker Johnson as well.
Are the foreign dictators, demagogues, and nationalists as organized as are U.S. billionaires?
Perhaps the fat orange guy's emissaries travel among the world's worst with constant wink, wink, nod, nod. But I wonder how much U.S. billionaires shovel out to cohere such unified threats to democracy.
Can Dems running for U.S. Senate and other vital offices this year name some names?
Can our best Dems cite some dollar amounts budgeted by Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation, the Claremont Institute, and other bastions of far-right skullduggery and dictator sucking-up?
Shouldn't defending our democracy and our ally democracies by a matter of public record, public urgency?
Trump has a remarkable iron grip on power. Any other citizen undermining U.S. Foreign Policy would be treated as, at best, someone who failed to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) and at worst a spy. And why should he cease and desist?
Mike Flynn (pardoned by Trump and notably still collecting a full military pension in spite of his crimes) subverted the sanctions placed upon Russia by then President Obama prior to Trump's taking office. Trump did this before his Presidency, and he's orchestrating it after.
In terms of the Justice system -he's been indicted for 91 crimes the most visible being related to the violent insurrection of January 6, 2021. It has now been over three years since this crime against the United States resulted in the deaths of Capitol Police officers. Can anyone reading this imagine any other individual committing crimes leading to the deaths of police, enjoying their freedom, playing golf, attacking judges, DA's, their families, and continuing to act has a Foreign agent IN PLAIN VIEW? He doesn't have to proclaim innocence saying that as President and as former President -he can just do as he pleases with full immunity. Posting a bond -that's too much money, here's a few bucks -that should suffice.
Trump has laid bare for all of us to see that justice is not for Philando Castile, George Floyd, Amadou Diallo, Trayvon Martin, or Sandra Bland. Justice is for those who can afford to delay, attack others, and misdirect people away from a mountain of evidence toward anything. Don't like the AG? I'll file papers that someone once thought they saw her use Monsanto's Round Up on her lawn -therefore, she must be removed from the case.
While I mourn the so-called justice system in the United States, the consequences of Trump are more dire in Ukraine, where hard-fought defense of their country from the murderous madman Putin is at grave risk due to the criminal Trump, and religious zealot Mike Johnson.
While people are quick to suggest that Merrick Garland and the DOJ are doing "all they can" as long as Trump remains free to conduct a shadow State department, his co-conspirators and accessories after the fact remain active in Congress, and the ethically challenged members remain on the Supreme Court, it seems the DOJ is fine with the nearly complete subversion of our system provided it is not a direct and violent overthrow of the government. If it remains "behind the scenes" that is perfectly fine.
This unofficial directive by Trump, the actions by Grenell are unacceptable.. Both he and Grenall should be arrested, taken into custody by the FBI and charged.. Trump must be told in no uncertain terms that there is only one President at a time..Dems in the house need to have a private back room “talk” with Johnson on the merits of a floor vote on the $60 million aid to Ukraine that should happen immediately..
"...we have an out-of-power ex-president who is in effect dictating American foreign policy on behalf of a foreign dictator or with the interests of a foreign dictator in mind.”
This goes beyond merely acting in bad faith and veers towards the criminal.
Every congressperson taking orders from an ex-"president" at the expense of their country is culpable.
I’d love to see Grenell charged with the Logan Act—it just at might dissuade the Victor Orban group of Congress Critters from contacting him further.
How can it possibly be legal for an ex president to work against our current president and weaken our status in the world? And why isn’t anything being done to make sure the majority of America know this is happening? Is anyone doing anything to stop this behavior?
Why isn’t anyone mentioning Citizens United effect of allowing all this foreign money to support Trump?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a certain document that forbids "adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort"?
I think this is one of the documents that come bundled with the Trump Bible. Too bad he hasn't read either one.
Doesn’t this mean Trump’s envoy, directly, and Trump, indirectly, violated and are repeatedly violating the Logan Act with far-right foreign government, officer, etc.?
“The law reads: “Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”
Would the act of proposing US policy towards these nations should the ex-President regain office, and as we all know he does threaten them to do as he wishes now, in opposition to or with no regard for current US policy?
This is scary but who can suggest introducing Logan’s Law against Trump so that aid can get to Ukraine? If he is imprisoned for 3 years, he cannot legislate especially if he loses the election. Can’t this law be enacted right now?
Gee whiz.. The Logan Act ... " shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both" So, who's going to arrest these guys and send them to prison? Did I miss something here. who has the authority to do that? Where are the grownups?
If you haven't watched "20 Days in Mariupol" yet, you should. If you want to see the actual horrors that Russia inflicted on a peaceful people, watch that film. Share it. Spread it. It is shocking. It is a big part of "why" the U.S. needs to free up assistance for Ukraine.
It is time for us to take extraordinary measures to deal with a criminal rapist with an orange face, a bleached blonde bully that lies almost every time he speaks. The psychopath has taken his fascist approach to seduce the racist element in our country that reacted to two terms of a non-white he claimed was born in Africa. Our former president is simply a psychopath. 70 million races in this country have been seduced by his brand of fascism simply because he ridiculed Obama and objectifies anybody that isn’t white this man is a fascist, he is criminally insane, he’s engaged in dishonest, treasonous activities with the worlds, most dangerous government, and his every action may be described as criminally, insane, and aimed at the destruction of our democracy and our position in the world if this isn’t enough for us to take extraordinary measures, what is? he has destroyed our Supreme Court. He has managed to seduce the wicked elements in our Congress. He has teamed up with various domestic players who understand well how easy it is to trigger racism in the white trash of the United States. This was the case with fascist aviator Charles Lindberg And fascist Catholic priest, father of Detroit we’ve seen this movie before. It took Japan bombing Pearl Harbor for us to address Hitler and Mussolini in Europe. The Japanese saved America from its vicious fascist elements that were threatening the democracy in the 30s. What is going to save us now? How are we going to approach the psychopathic elements in our country? When face with an internal criminal in command of one of our two parties. When faced with a fascist dictator in the making, a pathological liar, making love to other pathological liars around the world, it is insufficient to play the game with Marcus of Queensbury rules. Extraordinary measures are needed. We have an internal Civil War. Abraham Lincoln‘s death left us with Johnson and the Ku Klux Klan. Today we have something worse. We have a bleach blonde Adolf Hitler in the making in common concert with a vicious chiller in Moscow, who thinks nothing of throwing people out windows And poisoning his enemies right left, and set when I say extraordinary measures, I mean it. Somebody with greater power than I must determine what needs to be done to end this threat to our democracy, to our nature and to our children President Biden has done a wonderful job. I wonder if he is capable of dealing with a psychopathic opponent cannot tell the truth and wishes to destroy our nation in Plainview. Clearly, he lacks the vocabulary to say what I am saying here. But it needs to be said and extraordinary actions needs to be taken. Now.
As usual, I'm struck how we direct anger and dismay in the wrong direction. We already understand Trump's intentions to establish a dictatorship in America. What we still DON'T understand is why our State and Justice Departments are complicit. Whey do they deliberately refuse to hold Trump accountable? Why don't they take forceful action when he conspires with foreign leaders? There is no ambiguity. Trump and the Republican Party are traitors. Where the hell are the CIA and FBI? Where the hell is Merrick Garland? Where is President Biden? Why isn't the Democratic Party openly charging the Republican Party as a fifth column—they certainly project that on to the Democrats. Why are our journalists complicit? Why won't mainstream media honestly make a case that Republicans now function as Russian agents? Why do they normalize all reporting with both-sides-ism? Our outrage is misdirected. We should be raging at our government for being too weak to protect our Constitution and protect our elections. We should be raging at news media for being too fearful to proclaim the truth. I mean seriously—how could any patriotic American rationalize letting a former President who plotted and executed an insurrection run for reelection instead of facing immediate prosecution? We're insane!
Trump’s actions are not only unacceptable, but should vault him into prison! He’s never going to acquiesce to our government agencies & will continue to be disruptive in foreign & domestic affairs. That is until he’s stopped in his tracks! He can’t be allowed to play by his rules anymore!
If what is said in this letter is correct shouldn’t it follow that proceedings pursuant to the Logan Act would be taken against Grenell, and Trump, and maybe Speaker Johnson as well.
Are the foreign dictators, demagogues, and nationalists as organized as are U.S. billionaires?
Perhaps the fat orange guy's emissaries travel among the world's worst with constant wink, wink, nod, nod. But I wonder how much U.S. billionaires shovel out to cohere such unified threats to democracy.
Can Dems running for U.S. Senate and other vital offices this year name some names?
Can our best Dems cite some dollar amounts budgeted by Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation, the Claremont Institute, and other bastions of far-right skullduggery and dictator sucking-up?
Shouldn't defending our democracy and our ally democracies by a matter of public record, public urgency?
Trump has a remarkable iron grip on power. Any other citizen undermining U.S. Foreign Policy would be treated as, at best, someone who failed to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) and at worst a spy. And why should he cease and desist?
Mike Flynn (pardoned by Trump and notably still collecting a full military pension in spite of his crimes) subverted the sanctions placed upon Russia by then President Obama prior to Trump's taking office. Trump did this before his Presidency, and he's orchestrating it after.
In terms of the Justice system -he's been indicted for 91 crimes the most visible being related to the violent insurrection of January 6, 2021. It has now been over three years since this crime against the United States resulted in the deaths of Capitol Police officers. Can anyone reading this imagine any other individual committing crimes leading to the deaths of police, enjoying their freedom, playing golf, attacking judges, DA's, their families, and continuing to act has a Foreign agent IN PLAIN VIEW? He doesn't have to proclaim innocence saying that as President and as former President -he can just do as he pleases with full immunity. Posting a bond -that's too much money, here's a few bucks -that should suffice.
Trump has laid bare for all of us to see that justice is not for Philando Castile, George Floyd, Amadou Diallo, Trayvon Martin, or Sandra Bland. Justice is for those who can afford to delay, attack others, and misdirect people away from a mountain of evidence toward anything. Don't like the AG? I'll file papers that someone once thought they saw her use Monsanto's Round Up on her lawn -therefore, she must be removed from the case.
While I mourn the so-called justice system in the United States, the consequences of Trump are more dire in Ukraine, where hard-fought defense of their country from the murderous madman Putin is at grave risk due to the criminal Trump, and religious zealot Mike Johnson.
While people are quick to suggest that Merrick Garland and the DOJ are doing "all they can" as long as Trump remains free to conduct a shadow State department, his co-conspirators and accessories after the fact remain active in Congress, and the ethically challenged members remain on the Supreme Court, it seems the DOJ is fine with the nearly complete subversion of our system provided it is not a direct and violent overthrow of the government. If it remains "behind the scenes" that is perfectly fine.
This unofficial directive by Trump, the actions by Grenell are unacceptable.. Both he and Grenall should be arrested, taken into custody by the FBI and charged.. Trump must be told in no uncertain terms that there is only one President at a time..Dems in the house need to have a private back room “talk” with Johnson on the merits of a floor vote on the $60 million aid to Ukraine that should happen immediately..