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Bill Katz's avatar

You left out one big issue; white working class moved from the Democratic Party beginning with the Dixiecrats and Nixon’s Southern strategy and culminating with s self of being racially left out as crazy as it sounds. Also, Democratic Party foolishly added to this sense of abandonment. Now you have a bigger picture.

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GJ Loft ME CA FL IL NE CT MI's avatar

Bill- Foolishness is why I can't go full-on Democrat.

And yet, I have only voted for Democrats and Independents for most of this century. Most Republicans prefer to hate instead of love and they are gullible to the point of stupidity. The faux-Christian white nationalists believe the Bible condemns abortion when the only passage in the Bible dealing with the topic says a priest (rabbi) can order an abortion if a woman is pregnant with someone baby other than her husband.

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T_Allen's avatar

Because why? Voting for Democrats? My conclusion....as I vote the same way.....is because only the Democratic party has any Progressives. They foolishly let Republicans make the word 'liberal' into a negative epithet, almost a swear word.

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GJ Loft ME CA FL IL NE CT MI's avatar

The Republicans are no longer conservative unless you want to classify Fascists as conservative. What have they done since Reagan that is conservative?

They are repressive regressives and Fascist.

I agree, liberal and progressive are not negatives. IMO - Regressive, Fascist and Repressive are very negative.

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T_Allen's avatar

I was raised a Conservative. For me conservatism had to with change and the rate of change. That changing too fast was radical. That change was about keeping the best and tweaking things on the edge with making it better. One problem with Conservatism in the US is that it changes too slowly to keep up with the world we live in. There is this unrealistic, almost poisonous nostalgia about the past that so many long for so much that they want to turn the clock back and go the other direction. That is not Conservatism.

Fascists are quite the opposite of Conservative. They want to change everything... right now. Nothing about keeping the best and throwing away the worst. They're not about tweaking, they're about dismantling and wholesale replacing governmental form and institutions. That form of course is absolute authoritarianism. But they would likely keep capitalism even if its slightly modified..... as long as no one has the ability to challenge them....and none of this dress-down Friday bs.

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GJ Loft ME CA FL IL NE CT MI's avatar

Apparently there really is a term for turning back the clock - Regressivism

From the Urban dictionary-

An Ideology of turning back time or reattempting previously failed ideas. Unlike Conservatism, Regressivism is usually for the detriment of people rather than supposed progress or a return to morals. Such a title is more commonly used as a sarcastic insult rather than a self-applied political stance but may exist as both. Contrasts with both Conservatism and Progressivism

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T_Allen's avatar

I'm pretty sure they left out the part about which race is clearly in charge. How many minority people do your remember from Leave It To Beaver or Father Knows Best?

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