Going through the lying, "back room dealing" etc. at the local town level as well. It is insidious and so frustrating!! Thank goodness I'm able to get into a kayak, on a bicycle, have a great group of fellow pickleball players, and golfing ladies to help maintain a minimum amount of sanity . . . although my golf game is not the best stre…
Going through the lying, "back room dealing" etc. at the local town level as well. It is insidious and so frustrating!! Thank goodness I'm able to get into a kayak, on a bicycle, have a great group of fellow pickleball players, and golfing ladies to help maintain a minimum amount of sanity . . . although my golf game is not the best stress buster :)
I do worry about my adult kids who are also so discouraged and depressed with what they see as a very dim future. My eldest said when trump occupied the WH, his craziness and that of his supporters would be a disaster for the rest of their lives. Makes me so sad, angry, and helpless. In all seriousness, I don't know how Biden holds it together but God bless him!
Young minds are developed at an early age. Our toddlers will be indoctrinated like the kidnapped Ukrainian children have been. Children not born yet will never know what we had. They will think it is normal to live in fear of expressing themselves, have an all supreme person who controls every aspect of life and will send out the government military at the least sign of "insurrection." They will think that uniformed children always march with weapons to show loyalty to the state.
And their history classes will state that African slaves learned valuable skills while enslaved. In fact, the whole slavery thing was a massive jobs training program that those damn Yankees never understood because they hate people of color.
Karen, we were having our hair cut last week when our hairdresser showed us a picture of some of his young relatives. The older one, aged 11, was surreptitiously throwing the white power sign with a smirk on her face.
Reminds me of being heckled by some young (not even teenage) T**** supporters while marching with my fellow Democrats in a local parade back in 2016. How many generations are going to be screwed up by MAGA?
And the people pushing trump's levers are to be taken very seriously. They will absolutely implement Project 2025 and overturn the last 100 years of progress, making life miserable for all our families. That people need the threat of Roe being overturned to get out and vote, with fascism breathing down our backs, is terribly sad and infuriating. Americans are sleepwalking into the abyss.
Let us say trump is the sleeping aid for the multitude. About 50-70 million people have sleep problems (about the number of people who voted for trump in the last election). The problem with sleep aids is that are side effects, some of which are unusual thinking patterns and behavior changes. Remember your best longtime friend (who moved south) and will no longer talk to you because you said you didn't like trump? Another symptom could be a slowdown in brain activity. hmmm They are also addicting. Gotta have trump no matter what he says or does.
Janet, I've recently been reminded of a bumper sticker about stress that I saw in an Orlando parking lot in the late 1980s - "Stress - that tension between your head and heart when you want to smack the living $hit out of some a$$hole who richly deserves it" (or words close to that).
"Going through the lying, "back room dealing" etc. at the local town level as well."
Yes. Here in Bar Harbor, Maine, town councillors use executive sessions *and* misinformation campaigns. They use their office to try to shut out residents who challenge them. While praising themselves for openness. One of the council culprits is now running for state office. Against someone who would be worse. It brings home the frustrations of voting for 'the lesser of two evils.' But it does not exempt us from the responsibility to do so.
Unfortunately, it is everywhere. I even subjected myself to participating on different boards to do the business of the residents in public! Ha, what was I thinking?! A small group hounded me relentlessly (threats, nastiness) - what really got them (in addition to a woman sitting at the "head of the table") was when I would state we worked for the residents not for a specific employee or two of the Town! And, the drum beat of nefarious activities continues!
Participation: the double-edged sword. We are encouraged to take an active role in the political process; yet when we do, we are subjected to the garbage that goes along with it, both from our peers and our constituents. My sister has been on the Planning Commission for her small town of Phoenix, OR since the dreadful fires in 2020. My dyslexic, high school grad (just barely), community focused sister has been subjected to some really awful internal and external fighting and is just done.
Ally,It is certainly a double edged sword. Here in Salem we have a fairly liberal city council. Now the current mayor, Hoyt, is running against a wing nut Hoyt, no relation. Once agains some interest at our hair dressers. Wing nut Hoyt and her husband catered their wedding, then they saw her in pictures with some other local wing nuts. They are gay and they know very well which people stand with them and it is not R wing nuts. We are not in the city, but we recently got a robocall from wing nut Hoyt. I couldn't put an end to it fast enough. Kudos to your sister for being involved and I am sure that in any city in southern Oregon, it is even more difficult than it is here.
The Almeda fire was, indeed. Even today, driving Hwy 99 from Phoenix to Ashland, you can see how the creek funnelled the flames. My sister's church at the corner of Second and Church was spared; the Jackson County Fuel Committee's building just to the north across Second burned to the ground.
I never remember the name of the fire (despite its memorable devastation) but our neighbor’s son lost his home in Talent. His girlfriend only had time to grab the dog and flee in the car after the authorities came and pounded on the front door😢.
Here too--so discouraging. Our situation sounds very similar. I have been involved in town government for many years and am still on a committee. The newly elected Council people sound reasonable, or at least some of them do, but their supporters are putting out misinformation and attacking people personally. I have been banned from one of their Facebook pages--so now I can't challenge misinformation, and so many people are tuned into this person. It's bad at all levels!
Janet, we have no children, but I have many nephews and nieces, greats and great greats. One set has ties to Norway where they could go to survive a little longer. The rest of them are stuck in deep ruts in southern Illinois, and Indiana. I would be surprised if they even vote. My nephew's wife however, doesn't know conspiracy theories from the truth. She did tell me recently that she appreciated my commentary, so at least she reads it.
You are supposing they can read and understand. They are too busy having children and working, if they work, in scut jobs. One of my nieces has started a crochet business and kudos to her.
Going through the lying, "back room dealing" etc. at the local town level as well. It is insidious and so frustrating!! Thank goodness I'm able to get into a kayak, on a bicycle, have a great group of fellow pickleball players, and golfing ladies to help maintain a minimum amount of sanity . . . although my golf game is not the best stress buster :)
I do worry about my adult kids who are also so discouraged and depressed with what they see as a very dim future. My eldest said when trump occupied the WH, his craziness and that of his supporters would be a disaster for the rest of their lives. Makes me so sad, angry, and helpless. In all seriousness, I don't know how Biden holds it together but God bless him!
At least your eldest knows the score, so many of the young around me don’t even know that the game is afoot.
I agree! And, it is downright scary.
What an unfortunately sad reality for us … but a [frightening] ignorance for them!
Young minds are developed at an early age. Our toddlers will be indoctrinated like the kidnapped Ukrainian children have been. Children not born yet will never know what we had. They will think it is normal to live in fear of expressing themselves, have an all supreme person who controls every aspect of life and will send out the government military at the least sign of "insurrection." They will think that uniformed children always march with weapons to show loyalty to the state.
And their history classes will state that African slaves learned valuable skills while enslaved. In fact, the whole slavery thing was a massive jobs training program that those damn Yankees never understood because they hate people of color.
My nightmare
Karen, we were having our hair cut last week when our hairdresser showed us a picture of some of his young relatives. The older one, aged 11, was surreptitiously throwing the white power sign with a smirk on her face.
Reminds me of being heckled by some young (not even teenage) T**** supporters while marching with my fellow Democrats in a local parade back in 2016. How many generations are going to be screwed up by MAGA?
Many have been all along. Trump gave them permission to go public.
I wonder where she got that attitude from?
Hmmm. Yes.
Some do.....Gen Z https://dream4america.org/
This is an amazing group of our young.
Send some to Texas. Around here they look like the deer caught in the headlights. At least some do
It is a tough case with many reasons to feel discouraged. "Never confuse a single defeat with a final defeat." — F. Scott Fitzgerald, author.
We must never give up. Posterity is counting on us to stay the course.
And the people pushing trump's levers are to be taken very seriously. They will absolutely implement Project 2025 and overturn the last 100 years of progress, making life miserable for all our families. That people need the threat of Roe being overturned to get out and vote, with fascism breathing down our backs, is terribly sad and infuriating. Americans are sleepwalking into the abyss.
Let us say trump is the sleeping aid for the multitude. About 50-70 million people have sleep problems (about the number of people who voted for trump in the last election). The problem with sleep aids is that are side effects, some of which are unusual thinking patterns and behavior changes. Remember your best longtime friend (who moved south) and will no longer talk to you because you said you didn't like trump? Another symptom could be a slowdown in brain activity. hmmm They are also addicting. Gotta have trump no matter what he says or does.
Janet, I've recently been reminded of a bumper sticker about stress that I saw in an Orlando parking lot in the late 1980s - "Stress - that tension between your head and heart when you want to smack the living $hit out of some a$$hole who richly deserves it" (or words close to that).
One bumper sticker I saw in Oklahoma back then said “Don’t argue with your wife - dicker.”
Thanks for the addition to my collection of bumper stickers. I didn't have that one.
"Going through the lying, "back room dealing" etc. at the local town level as well."
Yes. Here in Bar Harbor, Maine, town councillors use executive sessions *and* misinformation campaigns. They use their office to try to shut out residents who challenge them. While praising themselves for openness. One of the council culprits is now running for state office. Against someone who would be worse. It brings home the frustrations of voting for 'the lesser of two evils.' But it does not exempt us from the responsibility to do so.
Unfortunately, it is everywhere. I even subjected myself to participating on different boards to do the business of the residents in public! Ha, what was I thinking?! A small group hounded me relentlessly (threats, nastiness) - what really got them (in addition to a woman sitting at the "head of the table") was when I would state we worked for the residents not for a specific employee or two of the Town! And, the drum beat of nefarious activities continues!
Participation: the double-edged sword. We are encouraged to take an active role in the political process; yet when we do, we are subjected to the garbage that goes along with it, both from our peers and our constituents. My sister has been on the Planning Commission for her small town of Phoenix, OR since the dreadful fires in 2020. My dyslexic, high school grad (just barely), community focused sister has been subjected to some really awful internal and external fighting and is just done.
Ally,It is certainly a double edged sword. Here in Salem we have a fairly liberal city council. Now the current mayor, Hoyt, is running against a wing nut Hoyt, no relation. Once agains some interest at our hair dressers. Wing nut Hoyt and her husband catered their wedding, then they saw her in pictures with some other local wing nuts. They are gay and they know very well which people stand with them and it is not R wing nuts. We are not in the city, but we recently got a robocall from wing nut Hoyt. I couldn't put an end to it fast enough. Kudos to your sister for being involved and I am sure that in any city in southern Oregon, it is even more difficult than it is here.
you are probably just too close to Idaho.....it rubs off.
Luckily Salem is not close to Idaho, but we have plenty of wing nuts right here in River City.
😥. The Phoenix and Talent fire was terrifying.
The Almeda fire was, indeed. Even today, driving Hwy 99 from Phoenix to Ashland, you can see how the creek funnelled the flames. My sister's church at the corner of Second and Church was spared; the Jackson County Fuel Committee's building just to the north across Second burned to the ground.
I never remember the name of the fire (despite its memorable devastation) but our neighbor’s son lost his home in Talent. His girlfriend only had time to grab the dog and flee in the car after the authorities came and pounded on the front door😢.
It was devastating to that area.
Here too--so discouraging. Our situation sounds very similar. I have been involved in town government for many years and am still on a committee. The newly elected Council people sound reasonable, or at least some of them do, but their supporters are putting out misinformation and attacking people personally. I have been banned from one of their Facebook pages--so now I can't challenge misinformation, and so many people are tuned into this person. It's bad at all levels!
Janet, we have no children, but I have many nephews and nieces, greats and great greats. One set has ties to Norway where they could go to survive a little longer. The rest of them are stuck in deep ruts in southern Illinois, and Indiana. I would be surprised if they even vote. My nephew's wife however, doesn't know conspiracy theories from the truth. She did tell me recently that she appreciated my commentary, so at least she reads it.
Send them this link: https://dream4america.org/
They might see what young voters are supporting
You are supposing they can read and understand. They are too busy having children and working, if they work, in scut jobs. One of my nieces has started a crochet business and kudos to her.