6 Comments
User's avatar
โญ  Return to thread
Peter Burnett's avatar

Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he reap.

These too are sowing hell on earth.

Expand full comment
Mike S's avatar

Peter, yes, Jesus did teach that one "reaps what he sows".

But, I have to offer: My own obervational data indicates that, certainly in corporations, the absolute nastiest, most vile, people rise to the top and those that even come close to approximating Jesus get literally crushed.

Hence, my own middle ground walk through corporate America. I stayed highly technical, mostly avoiding management, so that, at least for a very long time, they could not get rid of me and paid me well so I would stay and keep making them richer.

But, I never saw anyone that was kind, compassionate, helpful and caring rise up in management in an American corporation. Not ever. Not once.

Similarly, in politics it seems the same. Trump became President.

So, I have to say, my observational data does indicate that Jesus may have been a little off with his assessment of outcomes.

Expand full comment
Ron Boyd (Denver)'s avatar

"๐˜‰๐˜ถ๐˜ต, ๐˜ ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ท๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜ธ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ธ๐˜ข๐˜ด ๐˜ฌ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ, ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฑ๐˜ข๐˜ด๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ฆ, ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ฑ๐˜ง๐˜ถ๐˜ญ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ฆ ๐˜ถ๐˜ฑ ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ข๐˜จ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ˆ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ. ๐˜•๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ฆ๐˜ท๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ. ๐˜•๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ."

I was told once that the qualifications for business leadership are those that describe a psychopath. I can't find the exact quote, but a little research will show some truth in that.

"๐˜๐˜ฏ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜‹๐˜š๐˜”-5, ๐˜ถ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ "๐˜ˆ๐˜ญ๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฏ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ท๐˜ฆ ๐˜‹๐˜š๐˜”-5 ๐˜”๐˜ฐ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ ๐˜ง๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ ๐˜—๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜บ ๐˜‹๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ด", ๐˜ˆ๐˜š๐˜—๐˜‹ ๐˜ธ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ฉ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ด๐˜บ๐˜ค๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฑ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ค ๐˜ง๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ค๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ข๐˜ด ๐˜ค๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ค๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ป๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฃ๐˜บ '๐˜ข ๐˜ญ๐˜ข๐˜ค๐˜ฌ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜น๐˜ช๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜บ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ ๐˜ง๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ณ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฃ๐˜บ ๐˜ข ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ข๐˜ญ ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜บ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜บ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ด๐˜ฌ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ข๐˜ฅ๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ท๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ท๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ด (๐˜ฆ.๐˜จ., ๐˜ง๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ถ๐˜ฅ๐˜ถ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ).' ๐˜“๐˜ฐ๐˜ธ ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ท๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ด ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ธ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฅ๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ธ๐˜ข๐˜ญ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜จ๐˜ฉ ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ท๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ด ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ-๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฌ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฃ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ธ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ฉ ๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ธ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜น๐˜ช๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜บ "

"๐˜‰๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜จ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต, ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฅ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ต, ๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ด, ๐˜ท๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ด, ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ค, ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜จ๐˜ฏ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ต, ๐˜ฃ๐˜ณ๐˜ถ๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ญ, ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ง๐˜ถ๐˜ญ; ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ช๐˜ฑ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜บ๐˜ข๐˜ญ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ถ๐˜ฏ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ฉ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต; ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ท๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ฆ; ๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜ถ๐˜ค๐˜ถ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต, ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ด, ๐˜ง๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ด."

"๐˜™๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ข๐˜ค๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ด, ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜จ๐˜ณ๐˜ถ๐˜ฅ๐˜จ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ, ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ๐˜ญ๐˜บ ๐˜บ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฏ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ; ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ; ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ท๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ด, ๐˜ข๐˜ท๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ด; ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ด๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ฌ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ท๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder#:~:text=In%20the%20DSM%2D5%2C%20under,high%20levels%20of%20attention%2Dseeking

Expand full comment
Peter Burnett's avatar

Sounds just like Trumputin the Great...

Expand full comment
Peter Burnett's avatar

Short-term outcomes.

It does rather more than just educate the mind to live by the assumption that all causes will have effects.

Expand full comment