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"Melt down" is a polite way of foreshadowing what we're in for in the coming weeks. As the walls close in, he will lash out with increasing rage and incoherence. He is running to stay out of prison, and the more it looks like he might lose, the more the house of cards on which he has built his life teeters and crumbles, the more rabid his response. May the coming days continue to reveal him for what he is: a sociopathic fraud who, were he not so dangerous, is simply pathetic and trivial. And may the messages of consequence for actions penetrate his violence-prone supporters' consciousness.

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My fact checking today didn't include too much of Trump, my Republican liar given a microphone was Kevin D Roberts (President of the Heritage Foundation) who was invited to speak from New York Times reporter David Gelles at the NYT Climate Forward event.

Apparently David Gelles wasn't familiar with Kevin Roberts typical smoke & mirrors disinformation, because, in front of the event crowd, he told the audience that it was the climate agenda (his term)—not the ACTUAL climate change SCIENCE itself—is what should most concern people.

To Roberts, climate wasn’t the REAL issue. Progressive climate policies were. The Inflation Reduction Act, he said, was imposing the will of “elites” onto the American people by forcing a transition to clean energy and electric vehicles.

(“I’m very happy, by the way, in my diesel F-150,” Roberts later joked, “because I enjoy my high carbon lifestyle.”) What an immature embarrassing unprofessional thug Kevin Roberts was, and his game of playing dumb was in extreme bad taste. Who can believe that the Heritage Foundation brags about the "think tank of intellectuals" that wrote up the playbook for Project 2025.

Lets tell Kevin Roberts to pick-up and read John Doerr's book 'Speed and Scale: An Action Plan for Solving Our Climate Crisis Now.' And try telling Swedish environmental activist, Greta Thunberg, who has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize every year between 2019 and 2023, what an embarrassment the US has for our Republican party.

Here are my two references where I found the story:

Mother Jones - https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2024/09/project-2025-kevin-roberts-climate-ira/.

and

Inside Climate News - https://insideclimatenews.org/news/26092024/activists-disrupt-occidental-petroleum-interview-at-new-york-times-climate-event/

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I live on the southeastern NC coast. Climate change is an everyday consideration in my life. I garden every day. Climate change in the form of two devastating hurricanes a year apart severely damaged my house and took out all of the mature trees in the backyard, about 10. Now in summer, the full sun makes it too hot to be outside. The USDA hardiness zones have been bumped up five degrees. Anyone claiming climate change is a hoax is lying.

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Please try to stay safe, a big one is coming your way.

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I've got a dear friend in Wilmington (she runs "Cape Fear's Going Green" publication). She was visiting her sister (my best friend) here in Eugene this summer, and said just about the same thing.

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Meanwhile, on the Chesapeake Bay in Virginia our summer was so temperate my tomatoes were a disappointment and the “normal” summer heat was very short lived.

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Deliberately lying

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I thought the NYT was out of its damn mind to invite him in the first place! Was there any kind of push back? Fact check, maybe?

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The NYT is going through a crazy, bizarre, right wing period - I wish they gave Trump a modicum of the scrutiny they give Harris. It's become pretty crazy. Here is an excellent interview on the subject with Rebecca Solnit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0ORWJ2RfkU

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Well, but didn't they just post "Trump is unfit to be president"?

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Pax, it seems the NYT may say in one place that Trump is unfit for office, then invite a climate denier to speak. Everyone already knows the position of climate denial, so presenting an ignoramus is a slap in the face to the readers, but I suspect it brought in some money from someone.

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The only place they are doing so is on their Op-Ed page and not as an official NYT editorial. They are using "avatars" to bury that message even as their headline writers obfuscate the facts in the stories they write and the articles they feature. For instance, in the morning "Headlines" email, the opinion piece that "concluded" that CFDT is not fit for office was not in the email as a featured essay. It appears in the Opinion newsletter, but it was buried in the paper.

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Pax, as I have written on this thread, they knew what he is and his position on climate, and well, everything else. It is unclear to me if they invited him for their ridiculous false balance agenda or because they wanted his viewpoint blasted out from a respected or should I say, formerly respected news source. Or, maybe it was both.

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I did think, reading the articles, that maybe they wanted to expose him....it kind of worked, maybe.

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I pasted the links to both articles (with my comment)

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Yes! And I did read them! Thanks!

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Kathaleen, now, let's raise our hands if we think the NYT folks really didn't know the position of their "invited guest." I am guessing no one has their hand up because everyone knows even when the NYT screws up, it isn't because they didn't know what they were doing. They clearly have a corporate agenda and wanted to get their guest's views out there without themselves having to state the nonsense. I keep hearing that they really are impartial from various sources, the latest, Maggie Haberman, but I know better just by reading what they are publishing and listening to their people defending the indefensible. Ah well, money can even corrupt a noted newspaper/news service.

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Yah, I heard NYT Maggie H. get interviewed on PBS Fresh Air with Dave Davies, and she made her job sound so difficult and *sigh* they’re doing the best they can because theres so many changes. I think the NYT culture is not the quality they used to be. The NYT doesn’t fact check their Election news, and when I read that Kevin Roberts was trying to impress with a cowboy swagger and recklessly behaving like his head has been in the sand for the last 20-years - it’s pathetic.

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I would change CAN to HAS!

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And Kevin Robert's outsized ego led to his thinking that the electorate would embrace Project 2025.

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No, he thought that chump could slip it in and Dems would be treading water and wouldn’t expose it.

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From yesterday's newsletter: "In 2004 a senior advisor to President George W. Bush famously told journalist Ron Suskind that people like Suskind lived in 'the reality-based community.' They believed people could find solutions to problems through careful study of discernible reality. But, the aide continued, Suskind’s worldview was obsolete."

That doesn't say everything we need to know about the Republican party. The other thing we need to know is that it is killing itself. The only question is the number of innocent victims that already include Brian Sicknick, Amber Nicole Thurman, Candi Miller, their families, their friends, etc.

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So typical of the upper class style Republican bubble net that keeps them also safely wrapped & ensconsed in their favorite ongoing assumption of superior self-worth that can make up the rules for everybody else out of their 'kingly' status. Cheap. Lazy.

Boring. Stupid. Quite obviously heartless.

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The same cretins that W depended on are still around. Only surprise to me is that Chaney has withdrawn his support. All this was incubated with W/Dickie

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As Bob Marley said in Redemption Song, “Emancipate yourself from mental slavery; None but ourselves can free our minds.” To a significant extent, Dick Cheney has redeemed himself, but he still has a lot to answer for. The same is true of his daughter. That happens in Step 9 of the 12-step program.

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Bring back some memories, why don't you. ALANON knows

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Good Lord, has the NYT already been bought by Rupert? Or have the owners decided that Elon is right. Money can buy anything…

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Immature thugs need to be seen to be believed, by the people who aren’t paying attention.

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Paul, I am also concerned that he might be taking some kind of medication that keeps him from dozing off regularly and keeps the craziness flowing from his mouth. Some of the sentences he is saying now almost make sense, but not in context. I am concerned that some people will see them as proof that Trump is really just fine, since they don't really listen to what he is saying anyway; he isn't fine!

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Adderall. I’m not a medical professional by any means, but there’s been evidence of his misuse of this medication for years. https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-63163/adderall-oral/details

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The military does authorize some critical people to use certain drugs in critical situations where they have to stay awake. The ones I talked to were advised to test them in a safe environment to see how they individually were affected by them, though most I talked to didn't test them in advance. Some few did finally use them when they had no other choice, as in behind enemy lines, escaping and evading, or long, multi-aerial refueling ferrying flights.

See https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240314-the-drug-pilots-take-to-stay-awake

If Trump was actually using them, he certainly wasn't using the stimulants as he sat in court, maybe he was advised to take the opposite type medication to keep him from further incriminating himself.

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Derek, doesn't Adderall have some challenging side effects, particularly if you don't really need it?

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According to the American Addiction Centers:

"Other serious side effects of Adderall misuse include:

Anxiety.

Tremors.

Insomnia.

Hostility.

Psychosis. "

Whoda thunk it...

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Ally, that is interesting, all symptoms he has at least in part. I suspect we will never know what/if Trump is using.

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Adderall is a methampletamine analog and would explain this. He's reputed to have been on it for years.

At his age, it most definitely can cause aberrant behavior,

So could his life experience. And his tiny fists.

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😜

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Big buck right wing media made him a god. Can it be that the more he acts like the pathetic phony his is, the more he becomes one? You can always fool some of the people all of the time, but I think that more are starting to notice.

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JL Did you see the survey of "evangelical preachers" that showed his support among this group has dropped from 68% to 61%. There could be several reasons for this, but one may be because their flocks are shrinking because people are tired of hearing the same old BS at church all the time.

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Maybe the 7% drop is due to the ones now incarcerated and no longer available for polling.

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Ran for my life during tea party insanity. Nuts have multiplied by leaps and bounds

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🙏🏼. It would be lovely if the MAGats finally recognize the true “elites” on their golden thrones.

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Not in my world, JL. I posted on a friend's pro-fpotus Facebook post "better a prosecutor than a convict." All I've gotten is cries of "weaponized prosecution" and "she sounds like a prosecutor summing up a bad case". No, they are doubling down on the crazy. These were both former cops, by the way...

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I see it too Ally. Some are in full meltdown, with the whole “immigrant are criminals living off taxpayers” nonsense in full swing.

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So typical of the upper class style Republican bubble net that keeps them also safely wrapped & ensconsed in their favorite ongoing assumption of superior self-worth that can make up the rules for everybody else out of their 'kingly' status. Cheap. Lazy.

Boring. Quite obviously heartless.

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Amen to that, Paul!

I fear there may be a run on strawberries as he hurtles precipitously toward his Captain Queeg moment

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Movie or book goes on my to-do list after Dr Fauci’s book. The audio version is great.

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Not sure which is the best way to do that. I was a "book then movie" and it really worked well for me.

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The MAGAs are coming for your Ketchup.

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There won’t be enough ketchup for Trump to throw at the wall during one of his tantrums!

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We'll have a better idea if he starts rolling the metal balls in his hands...

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Paul, that's the ticket to our winning the election- that the "messages of consequence for actions penetrate his violence-prone supporters' consciousness."

I've been waiting for that to happen for eight years. Thank goodness some have come to their senses, but he still commands crowds of cheering, laughing, clapping people who wear tshirts with F___ Biden, and tshirts of the flag with Trump's face plastered on it.🙈

Trump says he "doesn't know the situation" about Robinson. Who, in their right mind, believes that?

Well, we saw in NC yesterday the folks who DO believe everything he says. That is so frightening to me.

The people I have tried to convince otherwise will not listen to anything but praise for him.🙉

What's sadder and more frightening is that Trump "doesn't know the situation" on anything of importance. Who could possibly want a person of his disgraceful character as president of our United States.

Therein lies the problem. Many do.

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It’s his excuse for being an idiot…. Only works with idiots at this point…

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When you realize how tRump has gotten away with so much fraud and crimes that there just might be his comeuppance soon. All of his claims that the system is rigged against him as he tries to convince his base that he is a victim. His whole MO is based on what he has learned and has practiced his entire adult life he learned from Roy Cohn like he is Roy Cohn's incarnation.

Lessons learned and faithfully practiced:

#1: All publicity is good regardless of how negative it is.

#2: When attacked attack back harder. When sued counter sue for more.

#3: NEVER apologize.

#4: Whatever happens claim victory.

#5: You do not have to believe what you say.

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Good as Goebbels rules for propaganda

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Heather has been saying this for the past 6 years. Trump is unraveling, Trump is floundering, Trump’s supporters are dwindling. At the same time she claims Biden is sharp as a tack still. Reality check- Trump's numbers and base are stronger than ever, and Biden is in obvious cognitive decline. We can deny the reality, love Kamala’s and Joe’s team who are truly running the show, but let’s not play pretend. Even Trump’s voters admit they would not have him for dinner, but like his policies better. Neither Joe nor Kamala can articulate a coherent thought. For two different reasons, but none the less it’s true and we all see it. Keep Kamala and Walz away from live interviews and tough press question like was done with Joe and perhaps we can get them over the finish line.

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Indeed…well said, Paul.

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Forced myself to watch that "speech" and press conference yesterday. Barely coherent and the body language and his monotone showed alot of breakdown.

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His TV ads are increasingly nasty attacks on kaMAla with distorted paste-ins of her giggling while someone reports that she is uninformed and dangerous.

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And some think that chump is the coherent one, go figure????

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well said.

there is no depth to how low they will go

let's not be distracted, focus on the goal

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