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Carl Selfe's avatar

Those on the right need to stop shooting each other. Just a thought. The alleged shooter, Tyler James Robinson, comes from a Republican family, though Tyler is not registered to any party. His father is a retired sheriff in Washington County, Utah. There are photos of Tyler and his family with guns. Tyler Robinson dressed as Donald Trump for Halloween: a devout supporter, it would seem, who donated to Donald Trump in 2020. Tyler, we know, hated Charlie Kirk because Charlie Kirk was not far enough to the right.

Grifting to turn grief into grievance, manipulating the many’s mourning, Donald Trump solicits rage that he can exploit for violence—before there is any proof the left contributed to the shooting. The facts do not matter to Trump. That is irresponsible leadership from Trump. Republican members in Congress mimic their leader in jumping to conclusions whose only foundation is a pack of prior Trump lies. They ignore history that tells us they are deluded cultists. Gross irresponsibility of this magnitude is criminal malfeasance.

It is Trump who constantly and vociferously demonizes the left with his rhetoric. He does not seek to quench the Nation’s anger, to break with violence. He seeks to inflame any given moment, stoking the flames well before investigation uncovers any facts at all. It is he and Kirk that traded in vile, demonizing, and inflammatory rhetoric designed to incite violence. They both traded in an inflammatory speech to monetize the anger they created. The cult no longer has the intellectual ability to rationalize the moment.

These two people monetized their hostility like the money changers they are. They gaslighted the rest of us whenever a fire broke out, and they simultaneously fanned those flames while pouring gasoline on the fire.

History dictates that the shooter will be a Republican supporter. They are all angry white men with right leanings. EVERY ONE! If you do not see that, yours is a delusional world. Have you paid no attention at all to the political and racist violence of last decade? If so, you know the party of violence. I gathered a list for you. https://hotbuttons.substack.com/p/bilious-hate-mongering?r=3m1bs

Loren Bliss's avatar

Again proving its post-WW-II, Nazi-War-Criminal-recommended function as the privately owned, for-(maximum)-profit reconstruction of Josef Goebbels' Reichsministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda (the infamous Reich Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda), the mainstream media monopoly will continue its (relentless) effort to portray suspect Robinson as a leftist.

While our hostess is to be saluted and applauded for the skill and courage that prompted her to scoop the world on the deceptions, realpolitik tells me it is (not) an accident, but rather a deliberate, Christonazi-scripted campaign of deception intended to lay the foundation for a national pogrom -- a nation-wide lynching bee -- against any and all of us who oppose the MAGATs, with no distinction between real left or pseudo left. Which means everyone including the cravenly Vichy "Democratic" (sic) Party kingpins and the most non-demonstrative anti-MAGAT voters are in grave jeopardy of the midnight knock of disappearance.

Elizabeth Sturdevant's avatar

Another Tyler Robinson made the 2020 contribution. An older man. Clarifications and corrections followed many of the initial “revelations.”

Potter's avatar

This was written in 2020- It's only gotten worse-- It's not only Trump. Now he has a group that conspire with him, direct and manage. Trump in his mental state could not do all this without help. We are in deep. The Kirk assassination was not precipitated by the so called radical left.. Trump's boogymen. Who are they?

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Donald Trump: Aggressive Rhetoric and Political Violence

by Brigitte L. Nacos, Robert Y. Shapiro, and Yaeli Bloch-Elkon

Abstract

"During Donald Trump’s presidential candidacy and presidency political discourse in the United States became more hateful and divisive. Threats and actual violence against groups and individuals singled out and demonized by Trump increased. The targets of his verbal attacks were most of all racial, ethnic, and religious minorities, the

news media collectively and individual journalists, and well-known politicians, mostly Democrats."

Read the rest here

https://pt.icct.nl/article/donald-trump-aggressive-rhetoric-and-political-violence?#

Robert Gray's avatar

And maybe the shooter from PA who tried to assassinate Trump was a Republican???From Wall St. Journal article: ""It's very clear to us and to the investigators that this was a person who was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology,” (Utah Gov.)Cox said in an interview with the Journal. ​A person​ familiar with t​he inv​estigation said the information about Robinson’s views came from conversations with his family​." If the shooter was disappointed at Kirk for being not far right enough, why did investigators find shells with inscription "Hey fascist, catch!"?

elle vj's avatar

How amazing to be the judge, jury, & executioner with NO evidence

DC Policy Geek's avatar

Excellent!

Now, let's add the perspective of prescient Pulitzer Prize winning former New York Times journalist and author of the book (one of many) American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America (January 2007). His higher education includes a graduate degree in divinity from Harvard University with which he's also now an ordained Presbyterian minister. Hedges, however, has always been a writer rather than a practicing minister. -- https://open.substack.com/pub/chrishedges/p/the-martyrdom-of-charlie-kirk-read?r=c3b0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

Also, please watch Marc Elias' latest video on how Republicans are planning to rig the 2026 and 2028 midterms. Remember, this is mostly an administrative coup. Please, let's do whatever we can to ensure the 2026 midterms are as fair as possible. They're targeting 3 points: voter registration, access to how we cast our votes and how votes get counted. Compared to the stories in the news nowadays, it'll be relatively boring, administrative details that'll possibly successfully rig the 2026 midterm elections in favor of Republican candidates. https://substack.com/@marcelias/note/p-173447982?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=c3b0

Finally, IF Democrats win a majority in the House and, less like, also the Senate plus, eventually, The White House, please demand they actually lead for a change by --

1) passing sensible gun control legislation

2) regulating social media

3) reversing the democracy-eroding aspects of the "big beautiful" budget law, including addressing increasing income inequality with that budget law being the largest transfer of wealth in US history + eliminating access to health care for far too many in the US who've relied on Federal subsidies to help them purchase very expensive insurance plans via the ACA and to Medicaid + its similar impacts on Medicare.

If we don't pay attention to Marc Elias' latest post while doing everything we can to support free and fair elections, that's a very big IF.

Finally, IF it's already too late and people are too distracted, be prepared to live in an authoritarian state much like Hungary for possibly the rest of your life. IF that happens, read M Gessen's book or at least watch their videos to learn how to do what we'll all need to do to survive.

Meanwhile, as someone who's done violence prevention work on a public health level in the past, ironically funded by the Federal government, I'm with the Governor of Utah -- get off your computer, go outside, touch grass. That's one reason why I have a dog and hike and kayak.

TLM's avatar

so sorry you were targeted by Kirk. You give the most unbiased and factual assessments of events now and throughout History.

Potter's avatar

She should be safe-- please. But it's a badge of honor.

Kathy H's avatar

For sure. Whatever his ability to bullshit, it's a great failing of intellect & character to resort to harming another person rather than relying on the strength of knowledge. That pathological emotional immaturity is appalling.

Megan Rothery's avatar

Reach out to as many in the Senate and House as you can about the Epstein files and gun control. Those are bigger than “I only represent my constituents” issues.

Use/share this spreadsheet (bit.ly/Goodtrouble) as a resource to call/email/write members of Congress, the Cabinet and news organizations. Reach out to those in your own state, and those in a committee that fits your topic. Call. Write. Email. Protest. Unrelentingly. We deserve better ❤️‍🩹🤍💙

Tina Howard's avatar

Brazil government is working. Congratulations to them. Hope that wakes up our legislature and Judicial system.

Mikekernell@gmail.com's avatar

Once again, Trump uses “ insinuendos” to to get his way.

He refers to the Memphis mayor as the Democrat mayor.

The office of mayor of Memphis is non-partisan, and there is no primary by law that elects a partisan to that office.

Most Memphis mayors achieve their position through votes from both political parties and independents.

The Memphis mayor therefore does not represent the Democratic Party with/in that office.

Mayor Young, is black, so maybe that fits his mode of operation to recreate his base.

Carol Navarrete's avatar

It's always amazing that those who advocate division, intolerance and maltreatment of others, and openly state that gun deaths are acceptable as the price of universal gun ownership, are outraged when violence comes to their own door. "As ye sow, so shall ye reap." Funny how Maga "Christians" forget the Gospels in their eagerness to throw the Old Testament at anyone not worshiping at the feet of the Claremont Institute's disciples.

Jean hanlon's avatar

Yes! Trump INCITES VIOLENCE. No other evidence than WHAT THE WORLD SAW JANUARY 6/21!

MOB RULE is indiscriminate! Right…left…WHO CARES…the goons are ‘gooning’!

Soon, the ‘regime’s’ totalitarian acts will split the country apart…NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!

Today…ignoring its Constitution, America has thus become a ‘LAWLESS FRONTIER’…as it was in the days of the ‘Wild West’.

Yee-haw!

Where did I put my sixgun?! 🔫

Kirk Somerville's avatar

pierce his heart with your verbal arrows .. that will be more to the point.

Jean hanlon's avatar

My day begins with bravely facing whatever ‘new’ atrocity has befallen America. Then I usually write a “TIPS” article or poem or song parody…this keeps me SANE.

I am also a member of the “Me Too” women’s group, and, if Mr. Trump had done ‘no other’ crime than forcing himself on a woman, it would require me to meet him in an alley for 5 minutes in order to SHOW him my disgust for sexual predators.

I am 5’5”, 123 lbs., but I know I could pound him into an orange stain on the ground…how?…just picturing ONE of the frightened faces of underaged girls both he & Epstein traumatized…for life!

Sometimes there aren’t words terrible enough! 😔

Kirk Somerville's avatar

His heart is so tiny it can only be measured in angstroms

Jean hanlon's avatar

BTW…getting on ‘the List’ that Trump will try to ‘punish’ in some way is a BADGE OF HONOUR, although I am concerned about the safety of those whose PATRIOTISM encourages them to speak out against the rampant FASCISM.

There is ‘no other agenda’ for the big orange Dictator than ‘GETTING EVEN’ with everyone from Musk to the McDonald’s employee who got his daily order wrong…no pickle…no future. ☠️

If any of Trump’s MAGA base had to deal with his temper, they would HIDE away and not open their mouths…except to parrot the lies.

Prof. Richardson…STAY SAFE! But, keep telling it like it is! 🎖️

Cortney Strother's avatar

Good afternoon all. I need some clarification and verification please on some of the statements in today's HCR newsletter:

1: "This morning, Trump announced on the Fox News Channel’s Fox & Friends that he had just heard “they have the person that they wanted.” That person turned out to be 22-year-old Utah native Tyler Robinson, who turned himself in to authorities after his father urged him to."

I have not seen any specific reporting that he turned himself in at his dad's urging. In fact at the press conferences with law enforcement, the narrative was that a former clergy member of his recognized him and turned him in. So my question is, what is the source of the reporting in the newsletter about him turning himself in?

2: "Robinson had recently had a conversation with a family member about why they didn’t like Kirk’s viewpoints. Robinson appears to have admired the “Groypers,” led by Nick Fuentes, who complain that more mainstream organizations like Kirk’s Turning Point USA are not “pro-white” enough and have publicly harassed Kirk in the past."

What is the source of this statement please? I have seen no reporting anywhere that corroborates this claim. In fact the reporting I've seen indicated Robinson had conversations with a "roommate" (did not specify as a family member).

HCR is normally so good at disclosing sources, but again, if anyone can provide clarification for the above noted statements in the newsletter, I would be grateful. Thanks!

The BobCaster©'s avatar

The sources are readily available at the end of the written version of her letter, distributed yesterday. I do wish HCR would provide footnotes directly to the relevant sources, but there it is. Other than the laborious process of fact-checking all relevant sources provided by her, I would say addressing your questions DIRECTLY to her (not through a Substack post) would probably get you the answers you seek.

Lots of contradictory information is being published and broadcasted about this. One can only report what is before them at any given time and try to sift through it to find something that looks plausible. Obviously, the "true facts" of the matter will be a long time coming out, if ever. I suspect a cover up is already underwaY.

As to your questions:

1) At least two of her sources cite the information about the circumstances of him turning himself in:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-shooter-assassin-who-is-2lx7mh7x7?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

2) The association with Groypers is found here:

https://x.com/gtconway3d/status/1966548520657105408?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Fuentes response to that is found at:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

drill down to: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/13/charlie-kirk-killing-alleged-shooter-motivation

As far as the bit about "Robinson had recently had a conversation with a family member about why they didn’t like Kirk’s viewpoints." I don't know precisely where that came from.

It should be noted that all of the above came from sources cited by by HRC in the published written version of her letter, posted and delivered to subscribers on 9/12/25.

I could not access each and every related source because some of them want you to sign in if you have an account or subscribe if you don't. I will not capitulate to the money grubbing media. NYT excepted of course.

Cortney Strother's avatar

Thanks so much bobcaster ... I will check out your references. I don't know how to contact HCR directly, so if you know that source, that would be great also!

The BobCaster©'s avatar

That I cannot help you with.

She might still be teaching somewhere, so that might be an avenue to explore if it is that important to you.

I can well imagine she doesn't publicize that information.

She also has a presence on YouTube, so you might check out one of her posts there. Maybe she would reply to your query there.

For me - it is the cocktail hour! Cheers!

Vera Cooley's avatar

Response from me to Elon: And the "Right" is the party of greed and stupidity.

robert e williamson jr's avatar

Could t be his demise was planned in advance by Mr. Miller? I think this as good of an assumption as any made so far. It's just a thought based on Millers exercised and advertised track record. It's just a thought.

Figment Of Imagination's avatar

Thank you for crediting Allison Gill for exposing that the bullet etchings were related to an online game as opposed to “leftist ideology.” She was very knowledgeable about this and shared that knowledge.

Debbi Jackson's avatar

Great reporting. Thank you.

Hirut Kidane-mariam's avatar

They are not only killing each other they are killing us too by thousands every year 😢

Ed Weldon's avatar

Only a small number of particularly noteworthy individual killings make the news. The really big numbers come with the deliberate reduction in the use of vaccines and starvation.

And then there is the process of physical capture and torture Those die young and in a place where nobody can see. Which means to some that it never happened.