Jenna Ellis crocodile tears are just that. Right up till yesterday she was spouting "stop the steal" bullshit. Go look at her FB page. Her tears are because she got caught. She doesn't have the moral capability of confessing anything with integrity. She never knew the meaning of the word. None of these people are "flipping" because they …
Jenna Ellis crocodile tears are just that. Right up till yesterday she was spouting "stop the steal" bullshit. Go look at her FB page. Her tears are because she got caught. She doesn't have the moral capability of confessing anything with integrity. She never knew the meaning of the word. None of these people are "flipping" because they have seen the light. They have seen that they don't like the idea of spending any time in a Georgia jail. They are all worthless pieces of shit and thinking otherwise of them is an act of stupidity.
I third that emotion!! That is exactly the way i feel about this whole thing. Someone should have told that Jenna Ellis to, ''Cry me a damn river'' That is what these people get for being taken in by that blob of Orange protoplasm. I hope there is more to come. I don't feel a bit sorry for these greedy, narcissistic, corrupt asshats.
I fourth it!I wonder how many more with have their” Come to Jesus “ moment in the coming days? And yet TFG is still the puppeteer pulling those strings everyday for a good part of the whole crooked Repuke party.SMH
"Come to Jesus"? Trump's cronies in crime don't know a thing about Jesus or his teachings. My understanding of Christianity, and the words and actions of those who claim to be Christians to placate Trump, are totally different. It makes me SICK to hear them claim to be Christians. They are just selfish, holier-than-thou, judgemental and
Immoral. (Although they think otherwise.) I don't think Jesus would have admired or condoned their false claims.
I think there should be a TV show- "Guess the Christian."
Linda ! .... JESUS !, is Soon ! To RETURN ! , AND !, When HE DOES !, ' THE LION !' HE ! , WILL BE !,,,,,,,,,," The LAMB !, of GOD !,, Has DONE !, HIS ROLE ! NOW ! , "THE LION !!, Steps In !!
PumpkinMan writing Power of a Trump Endorsement with capital letters tells us all we need to know about his fitness for office and the zombies who worship him. IMHO, Blob of Orange Protoplasm should be capitalized too. No brain matter there.
I agree with all of you. I have seen other insincere "apologies", but Ms. Ellis' was right up there in the top ten. Her risible "apology" was a tear-soaked pottage of commonplace Republican excusesand casting blame elsewhere for her own moral failures. Such a crock. She should be fined another $5,000 just for describing herself as a "sincere Christian".
Still out? "The jury" returned a verdict of Not Guilty on Rittenhouse because, Facts, and his Mom had nothing to do with any of it. That horse is dead, so quit kicking it, you're scuffing up your shoes.
Did she somehow think that saying she is a Christian would give her more credibility? Wrong! No one who is actually following the teachings of Jesus would do the things that she did or allow themselves to be taken in by the big orange guy. I still can't understand why so many evangelical "Christians" follow Trump. He only worships himself.
Her comment about having failed to do her due diligence rings just as hollow as her claime to be a Christian of any kind. Is she trying to make us think she's a first-year associate at a giant, white-shoe firm in which such an associate would not think of questioning the senior partner's description of the facts? Seriously? Unless she's really that stupid, to have been sucked into the Big Lie in the first place, and that's some sort of reason - a reason, perhaps, but never an excuse. Either way, a treatment is DISBARMENT.
Christine...mea culpa, mea maxima culpa...this show of tears and proclaiming her "Christianity" is an old trope to tell us how hypocritical she and all those others are. And gosh, only 39 and so naive that she is duped by someone like Rudy.
Just give me good decent compassionate people, no matter what they believe or don't believe. We had a parochial high school adjacent to the public one where I worked. They had our kids convinced that they weren't as good somehow. I am always reminded of the little bomb project between one of theirs and one of ours.....where do you think they set it off....right down the hallway from me and the library. Or when we kept getting bomb threat and the kid went to the parochial school.
If she was such a good Christian, how could she ever stomach a lying SOB, and a man who liked raping women and cheating on his wives. She was an opportunist like all the rest of them.
And at $400 or more per hour, thats 2 traffic ticket cases to pau it off. Considering successful lawyers, which all these crooks apparently are, blow down 500k and more yearly, their fines should hurt, at least a little. They, unlike their mental mentor, might even pay the fine.
I totally agree and just read that Sydney Powell is still spieling that the election was stolen on her social media page...she should lose her sweet plea deal!
The judge and prosecutors may be hopeful that those that have pleaded guilty will be gagged until TFFG goes down, but their history says otherwise. I will be shocked if all of those that pleaded guilty 1) quit echoing the big lie and 2) testify against TFFG and Guiliani in a court room.
TFFG will never plead guilty, so this is going to get very interesting very soon. TFFG has got to be sweating bullets the way these bad actors are singing like little canaries.
Hopefully the prosecutor puts an end to this get out of jail guilty plea soon as they promised they would.
Gary we have two (2) very active Prosecutors, Jack on the Fed's case & Fani on the GA RICO action in Fulton County. By the terms of the pleas, the Get-out-of-Jail-Free component can be revoked, then its Go-directly-to-Jail ... do not pass Mar-a-Lago.
Their sentences are pretty weak if you ask me. None of them will do jail time. If they were deemed felons none could practice law again. Why are their rights being preserved? They should Lose their rights. They didn’t commit mistakes. They committed crimes, knowingly!
My understanding is that in Georgia these are typical plea deals. Also, I think Willis wants the deals to look good to the bigger fish who will start implicating Trump directly. I'd like to see them all in jail,, but I'm sure they're sweating plenty right now.
Willis should not be hopeful and she probably is not. Sidney Powell is claiming that Willis has extorted her into pleading guilty. Ellis and Powell are two peas on one pod.
The bottom line is that until Trump is silenced and gone, our country will be a mess. It is unbelievable how such a vile person accumulated so much power, but he did and he has.
I'd like to think it's unbelievable, but actually it's not. In Chapter 11 of Heather's book, Democracy Awakening, she describes the creation of Trump's show, The Apprentice, and its initial success. As ratings dropped, "Trump took his show to a new stage...a lobby full of paid extras."
And here's the sentence that explained to me how Trump's "show" played right into what GOP had been trying to do for decades. "Trump was a brilliant salesman who grasped what 35 years of Republican rhetoric and voting distortion had MADE THE PARTY'S BASE VOTERS WANT (caps mine) far more accurately than the politicians in the Republican establishment who had created those voters. "
Establishment Republicans who "wanted an end to government regulation of business and taxes had courted racists, sexists and religious zealots to stay in power but had no plans actually to give in to extremist demands which would turn off mainstream voters. Trump stripped the cover off this sleight of hand, offering to give the extremist base a hierarchical world in which they dominated women as well as their Black and Brown neighbors." (p 84) And that's how he did and he has.
And that's why we have to do whatever grassroots things we can to rally the majority of our voters who do not want this authoritarian, racist, sexist form of government.
And the court is not giving them jail time to really show them what the rule of law means. Hell, people get longer community service sentences for littering or jaywalking. If you or I had committed a crime this serious, our social calendar would be blank for quite some time but we'd be pros at making license plates.
No kidding! This has been my rave since the beginning. Can you imagine if we got caught stealing anything from the white house, not to mention classified docs! We would be sentenced to life imprisonment at Guantanamo!
Just watched a video of her statement. Nauseating in its insincerity and deflection of responsibility. She sounded like an 8 year old who got caught stealing a candy bar and blamed her friends.
I agree with your sentiment, still, I can't help but feel sorry for her. Jenna Ellis is just another whose life has been wrecked by loyalty to Donald Trump. How stupid and naïve of them. Their loyalty to Trump has nothing to do with their Christianity but rather to their KKK-like support of a government that embraces white Protestant supremacy now, white Protestant supremacy forever. It's racist to the core, though they'll never admit it and may not even be aware of it. The defendants all want to avoid prison, as does Trump and his attorneys. I have no doubt that Trump's attorneys are working furiously to cut a deal that he, too, can plead guilty to in order to avoid wearing that orange jumpsuit. Trump is a dead man walking, but not before he helped to destroy the Grand Old Party.
"Jenna Ellis is just another whose life has been wrecked by loyalty to Donald Trump. How stupid and naïve of them."
Anyone who is "loyal" to Donald Trump, at this point in his history, is just a moron. Everyone who is/was loyal to him, throughout his life, has been burned in his entire life.
Donald Trump cares about exactly one person: Himself. Only. Ever.
I can't subscribe to the "moron" theory because I believe it's more a matter of psyops and being sucked into a conspiracy vortex fed by the likes of Bannon, Flynn and Tucker Carlson. It's hard to break out of something like that when the barrage of bs is pushed at you constantly.
Which makes it e en more dangerous than if they really were all morons.
Richard, Jenna Ellis said in court yesterday "If I knew then what I know now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post-election challenges." Well, the fact is she did know back then. Over 60 legal challenges were made and lost in contesting this election. She was trained as an attorney to critically examine evidence, but there remains no evidence that the election was stolen. She can't blame elder attorneys who promised massive troves of data to support their claims but never did. She's a sad grifter, like all the rest, and I have no sympathy for her.
Doug, I understand your point and your position. It's just sad to me to see a professional life destroyed in the prime of one's life, even when one is not without fault. Sadder still is that it was wasted on such a pile of filth such as Trump. Ms. Ellis clearly deserves what she got and may even have been let off lightly. But, the real goal is to bring Trump to his just desserts. He needs to be destroyed politically. Fani Willis can do it and perhaps save our democracy. Isn't it ironic that members of the last group to get the franchise to vote (Black females) are the ones leading the charge to save our democracy (Judge Chutkan, AG Leticia James, Stacey
Abrams, DA Fani Willis, and more?) It is poetic justice and a lesson for us all.
Imagine where we could have been if all women had had the same opportunities as males from the get-go. My wife was valedictorian of her class of 660 in St. Petersburg, FL, a National Merit Scholarship winner, Phi Beta Kappa in chemistry at Emory, one of five graduate students admitted to the Harvard Ph.D. program in chemistry in 1971, applied to and was accepted at six medical schools, choosing Stanford. In short, she's brilliant. She took over the Democratic Party in Polk County as chair and made amazing advancements and changes, all lost when new leadership stepped in after her 2-year stint. And then, there was my mom and four sisters, all brighter than me, my mom and three sisters being school teachers, but I'm the one who ended up with the Ph.D. and J.D. from Harvard. I will never discount the fact that I am a white male, on the one hand, and incredibly lucky, on the other hand. Still, I grieve for what my sisters missed. Early on (6 years of age) my mom forged me into a "woman's libber." It was my suggestion that my wife leave chemistry and pursue medicine, and in that profession as an Ob-Gyn she was masterful.
I truly, truly hope that black women of all ages are inspired by these women to register and VOTE. Sadly, before I retired, it seemed that most of the black women that I worked with were--with good reason--entirely focused on basic survival for their children and themselves.
One of Heather’s main points in her book is that repeatedly, it has been women and people of color (especially women of color) who have come to our rescue as a nation, forcing us to move ever closer to the notion that we are truly all created equal. As an old white guy who can do little more than vote and contribute to causes, I’m hoping that they (you) as well as youth step up to the plate as a massive unstoppable movement—to save our democracy and our planet.
It is a sad commentary, isn't it, that their focus was basic survival for themselves and their children, not being able to dream really big dreams? We Democrats are on the path to change that and we're running into opposition from the MAGA/KKK forces, which are reactionary and atavistic. It really is the dialectic at work. We are on the right side of humanity and history.
They thought they would win. And if they had, those people would have been set for life. Instead, they played stupid games and are now winning stupid prizes. Thankfully. But it might not have turned out this way - I think we came awfully close to losing our democracy, and it’s still at risk. I have no sympathy for any of these people who sold us all out. They all knew better, and didn’t care.
And he will probably run the clock out with delays until his reelection. Biden is losing all the Muslim American votes now and the Progressives are done with him. The longer the house screws around the better it is for tfg.
Until the outrageous acts of Hamas I was scared witless. Now I am just filled with an underlying sadness.
Richard - shes 39 years old - old enough! Certainly not naive anymore.
And if she & Powell (whose far more than 39) are turning around after pleading guilty and spouting off the same lies? In my mind they both deserve much worse than probation & community service. I doubt either of them will be out by the side of the road cleaning up trash as ordinary folks would.
Maggie, I understand your anger and resentment. She and Powell deserve their punishments. What they attempted was nefarious. In part I suppose that it's my old age (83) that hates to see a life wasted. I don't know for sure. Still, it saddens me. Of course, had they been successful in bringing down our democracy, as many MAGA Republicans are still trying to do, it would be a different matter. This is far from being over.
It is a shame - all these lives wasted but thinking of what they intended for the rest of us? I've got 2 years on you. And you're right - far from over.
I can't feel sorry for an adult who willingly eats from the Trump buffet. She knew what he was about, filled her plate anyway to reap money and power, and when she got caught, went the Cry and Whine route. A stint in jail would have helped her grow up, but it's not to be.
You have much more faith in their loyalty to one another than I do. Look at what is happening in Congress right now over the fight to select a Speaker. There is no honor among thieves.
This is going to happen all the way up the guilt chain without public descriptions and self-acknowledgments of their crimes; they will keep calling themselves political prisoners.
Anyone with experience of humans can read her tearful apology for exactly what it was - a cynical attempt to dodge responsibility and deflect attention from her years of work against the country. Boo hoo hoo, poor me. I was a pawn. Uh huh. Not.
“If only we could elect a president that would pardon my crimes because I did it for fealty, I wouldn’t have to debase myself in front of this mockery of justice”---- overheard by DFN Cub Reporter Dave
Sidney Powell is claiming that Willis has extorted her into pleading guilty. Ellis and Powell are two peas on one pod. So, TC, you are correct. They are playing a clever game against Willis. Pleading guilty while third parties claim their innocence and that they are being extorted.
It is a clever play that some folks attribute to Steve Bannon. I looked for where I read that Bannon is behind the play, it is not my idea, but, I cannot find the reference now.
Of course Powell's plea deal was extorted. All plea deals are extorted, duh. The defendant is threatened with a worse fate if he or she refuses to take the deal.
It’s not extortion, because the prosecutor didn’t have to offer it in order to convict. It was a gift to get their testimony- more like a quid-pro-quo.
Of course it's extortion. The offer of a plea deal is always accompanied by the threat of something worse to follow if it isn't accepted—though admittedly a conviction on such a trivial charge isn't really much of a threat. Whatever happened to the big bad RICO case...?
Yes, but the something worse can happen without ever offering the deal. And if it wasn’t such a threat, why would they even bother taking a deal?
The payoff comes when they have to sit in the witness box at trial and tell the truth. If telling the truth is part of an extortion, your values suck.
We all watched it - Guilliani and company saying dead people voted; Ted Cruz trying to decertify PA’s election; Trump asking Raffensperger to fix the GA election for him; everybody bitching that Trump was cheated out when down-ballot Republicans won. There’s NOTHING NEW! The only thing, THE ONLY THING LEFT, is for them to say in a court of law, that it was all a scheme to defraud American voters. AND they’re getting quite a break for speaking. No, that isn’t extortion.
I hope no judge will think otherwise, may they be pariahs for the sane majority as well as the MAGAts. No jail, but Slink back under your rocks, vermin.
Jenna Ellis crocodile tears are just that. Right up till yesterday she was spouting "stop the steal" bullshit. Go look at her FB page. Her tears are because she got caught. She doesn't have the moral capability of confessing anything with integrity. She never knew the meaning of the word. None of these people are "flipping" because they have seen the light. They have seen that they don't like the idea of spending any time in a Georgia jail. They are all worthless pieces of shit and thinking otherwise of them is an act of stupidity.
I third that emotion!! That is exactly the way i feel about this whole thing. Someone should have told that Jenna Ellis to, ''Cry me a damn river'' That is what these people get for being taken in by that blob of Orange protoplasm. I hope there is more to come. I don't feel a bit sorry for these greedy, narcissistic, corrupt asshats.
I fourth it!I wonder how many more with have their” Come to Jesus “ moment in the coming days? And yet TFG is still the puppeteer pulling those strings everyday for a good part of the whole crooked Repuke party.SMH
And he is desperate for a govt shutdown that will kill the investigations. Mobsters always were good at blackmail.
Which could likely be why it’s taking so long to select a speaker.
My take on it
Mine also, Jeri. They could have a speaker in a nanosecond if they would work with Ds.
What about investigations?
"Come to Jesus"? Trump's cronies in crime don't know a thing about Jesus or his teachings. My understanding of Christianity, and the words and actions of those who claim to be Christians to placate Trump, are totally different. It makes me SICK to hear them claim to be Christians. They are just selfish, holier-than-thou, judgemental and
Immoral. (Although they think otherwise.) I don't think Jesus would have admired or condoned their false claims.
I think there should be a TV show- "Guess the Christian."
Sad that it's come to that- guessing.
Pam, Jesus would have kicked them out of the Temple and accused them not only of being moneychangers, but also loudly praying there as hypocrites.
Written in 2008, the satirical novel "American Savior" by Roland Merullo, seems so, so, so current!!
A good read.
Thanks for the heads up. Never heard of this one.
My feelings exactly!
We need Jesus in there flipping over the tables of the scammers!
Linda ! .... JESUS !, is Soon ! To RETURN ! , AND !, When HE DOES !, ' THE LION !' HE ! , WILL BE !,,,,,,,,,," The LAMB !, of GOD !,, Has DONE !, HIS ROLE ! NOW ! , "THE LION !!, Steps In !!
I know...Good Lord, I wish Yamface would just STFU.
T L Mills. Thank you for my first laugh of the am....Yamface.
You are most welcome!
Completely agree. I’m hoping even with a plea deal they will spend some time in prison.
PumpkinMan writing Power of a Trump Endorsement with capital letters tells us all we need to know about his fitness for office and the zombies who worship him. IMHO, Blob of Orange Protoplasm should be capitalized too. No brain matter there.
One a day isn't bad...
I agree with all of you. I have seen other insincere "apologies", but Ms. Ellis' was right up there in the top ten. Her risible "apology" was a tear-soaked pottage of commonplace Republican excusesand casting blame elsewhere for her own moral failures. Such a crock. She should be fined another $5,000 just for describing herself as a "sincere Christian".
She appeared to have taken crying lessons from Brett Kavanaugh.
Kyle Rittenhouse is the standard.
And the jury is still out on why the Wisconsin AG failed to indict Rittenhouse and the Civil Rights Division didn’t charge both, mother and son…
Still out? "The jury" returned a verdict of Not Guilty on Rittenhouse because, Facts, and his Mom had nothing to do with any of it. That horse is dead, so quit kicking it, you're scuffing up your shoes.
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Just what does being a good Christian mean? Why did she feel it necessary to say that?
Did she somehow think that saying she is a Christian would give her more credibility? Wrong! No one who is actually following the teachings of Jesus would do the things that she did or allow themselves to be taken in by the big orange guy. I still can't understand why so many evangelical "Christians" follow Trump. He only worships himself.
The abortion issue! they cannot see that the cons love the fetus but hate the child and mother.
Her comment about having failed to do her due diligence rings just as hollow as her claime to be a Christian of any kind. Is she trying to make us think she's a first-year associate at a giant, white-shoe firm in which such an associate would not think of questioning the senior partner's description of the facts? Seriously? Unless she's really that stupid, to have been sucked into the Big Lie in the first place, and that's some sort of reason - a reason, perhaps, but never an excuse. Either way, a treatment is DISBARMENT.
Christine...mea culpa, mea maxima culpa...this show of tears and proclaiming her "Christianity" is an old trope to tell us how hypocritical she and all those others are. And gosh, only 39 and so naive that she is duped by someone like Rudy.
Exactly. Are they better than everyone else? It's meaningless, and who cares.
Just give me good decent compassionate people, no matter what they believe or don't believe. We had a parochial high school adjacent to the public one where I worked. They had our kids convinced that they weren't as good somehow. I am always reminded of the little bomb project between one of theirs and one of ours.....where do you think they set it off....right down the hallway from me and the library. Or when we kept getting bomb threat and the kid went to the parochial school.
All MAGAts say that. It rolls off their tongues like "thoughts and prayers" whenever a gunman kills school age kids.
If she was such a good Christian, how could she ever stomach a lying SOB, and a man who liked raping women and cheating on his wives. She was an opportunist like all the rest of them.
Sucking up to the judge.
And at $400 or more per hour, thats 2 traffic ticket cases to pau it off. Considering successful lawyers, which all these crooks apparently are, blow down 500k and more yearly, their fines should hurt, at least a little. They, unlike their mental mentor, might even pay the fine.
I agree with you there...yes, the fines should be a bit more painful.
And the 100 hours of community service will probably be pro bono work for January 6 insurrectionists!
She needs to be disbarred!
I totally agree and just read that Sydney Powell is still spieling that the election was stolen on her social media page...she should lose her sweet plea deal!
That should be enough to violate her plea agreement and send her to jail.
I hope so...and lose her law license too!
But who would ever read Sydney Powell ‘s social media page ? She is certifiable.
To answer your question, all the MAGAts.
She’s a “Kraken” all right.
I second that emotion!!👏🏼
The judge and prosecutors may be hopeful that those that have pleaded guilty will be gagged until TFFG goes down, but their history says otherwise. I will be shocked if all of those that pleaded guilty 1) quit echoing the big lie and 2) testify against TFFG and Guiliani in a court room.
TFFG will never plead guilty, so this is going to get very interesting very soon. TFFG has got to be sweating bullets the way these bad actors are singing like little canaries.
Hopefully the prosecutor puts an end to this get out of jail guilty plea soon as they promised they would.
Gary we have two (2) very active Prosecutors, Jack on the Fed's case & Fani on the GA RICO action in Fulton County. By the terms of the pleas, the Get-out-of-Jail-Free component can be revoked, then its Go-directly-to-Jail ... do not pass Mar-a-Lago.
Their sentences are pretty weak if you ask me. None of them will do jail time. If they were deemed felons none could practice law again. Why are their rights being preserved? They should Lose their rights. They didn’t commit mistakes. They committed crimes, knowingly!
My understanding is that in Georgia these are typical plea deals. Also, I think Willis wants the deals to look good to the bigger fish who will start implicating Trump directly. I'd like to see them all in jail,, but I'm sure they're sweating plenty right now.
If they renege, they should be LOCKED UP the next day
Gary,
Willis should not be hopeful and she probably is not. Sidney Powell is claiming that Willis has extorted her into pleading guilty. Ellis and Powell are two peas on one pod.
https://www.businessinsider.com/sidney-powell-doubt-election-results-attack-prosecutors-after-guilty-plea-2023-10
Wow, Mike! It makes me crazy that all of them are still out there, damaging the fabric of our nation.
Unbelievable. Will their be any consequences for her actions do you think?
Gary. No.
Jeebus.
The bottom line is that until Trump is silenced and gone, our country will be a mess. It is unbelievable how such a vile person accumulated so much power, but he did and he has.
I'd like to think it's unbelievable, but actually it's not. In Chapter 11 of Heather's book, Democracy Awakening, she describes the creation of Trump's show, The Apprentice, and its initial success. As ratings dropped, "Trump took his show to a new stage...a lobby full of paid extras."
And here's the sentence that explained to me how Trump's "show" played right into what GOP had been trying to do for decades. "Trump was a brilliant salesman who grasped what 35 years of Republican rhetoric and voting distortion had MADE THE PARTY'S BASE VOTERS WANT (caps mine) far more accurately than the politicians in the Republican establishment who had created those voters. "
Establishment Republicans who "wanted an end to government regulation of business and taxes had courted racists, sexists and religious zealots to stay in power but had no plans actually to give in to extremist demands which would turn off mainstream voters. Trump stripped the cover off this sleight of hand, offering to give the extremist base a hierarchical world in which they dominated women as well as their Black and Brown neighbors." (p 84) And that's how he did and he has.
And that's why we have to do whatever grassroots things we can to rally the majority of our voters who do not want this authoritarian, racist, sexist form of government.
Heather's book is excellent. Everyone should get it.
The punishment for the next violation of his gag order should be home confinement no internet access.
Fake gold on reality tv. Easy peasy
And the court is not giving them jail time to really show them what the rule of law means. Hell, people get longer community service sentences for littering or jaywalking. If you or I had committed a crime this serious, our social calendar would be blank for quite some time but we'd be pros at making license plates.
No kidding! This has been my rave since the beginning. Can you imagine if we got caught stealing anything from the white house, not to mention classified docs! We would be sentenced to life imprisonment at Guantanamo!
Just watched a video of her statement. Nauseating in its insincerity and deflection of responsibility. She sounded like an 8 year old who got caught stealing a candy bar and blamed her friends.
I agree with your sentiment, still, I can't help but feel sorry for her. Jenna Ellis is just another whose life has been wrecked by loyalty to Donald Trump. How stupid and naïve of them. Their loyalty to Trump has nothing to do with their Christianity but rather to their KKK-like support of a government that embraces white Protestant supremacy now, white Protestant supremacy forever. It's racist to the core, though they'll never admit it and may not even be aware of it. The defendants all want to avoid prison, as does Trump and his attorneys. I have no doubt that Trump's attorneys are working furiously to cut a deal that he, too, can plead guilty to in order to avoid wearing that orange jumpsuit. Trump is a dead man walking, but not before he helped to destroy the Grand Old Party.
"Jenna Ellis is just another whose life has been wrecked by loyalty to Donald Trump. How stupid and naïve of them."
Anyone who is "loyal" to Donald Trump, at this point in his history, is just a moron. Everyone who is/was loyal to him, throughout his life, has been burned in his entire life.
Donald Trump cares about exactly one person: Himself. Only. Ever.
I can't subscribe to the "moron" theory because I believe it's more a matter of psyops and being sucked into a conspiracy vortex fed by the likes of Bannon, Flynn and Tucker Carlson. It's hard to break out of something like that when the barrage of bs is pushed at you constantly.
Which makes it e en more dangerous than if they really were all morons.
I see your point. No doubt.
However, as a long time motorcyclist I subscribe to the sign up in motorcycle shops.
“Stupid Hurts”.
And. Rich.
From my POV, the cult of tffg is the result of worshiping False Gods
Richard, Jenna Ellis said in court yesterday "If I knew then what I know now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post-election challenges." Well, the fact is she did know back then. Over 60 legal challenges were made and lost in contesting this election. She was trained as an attorney to critically examine evidence, but there remains no evidence that the election was stolen. She can't blame elder attorneys who promised massive troves of data to support their claims but never did. She's a sad grifter, like all the rest, and I have no sympathy for her.
Doug, I understand your point and your position. It's just sad to me to see a professional life destroyed in the prime of one's life, even when one is not without fault. Sadder still is that it was wasted on such a pile of filth such as Trump. Ms. Ellis clearly deserves what she got and may even have been let off lightly. But, the real goal is to bring Trump to his just desserts. He needs to be destroyed politically. Fani Willis can do it and perhaps save our democracy. Isn't it ironic that members of the last group to get the franchise to vote (Black females) are the ones leading the charge to save our democracy (Judge Chutkan, AG Leticia James, Stacey
Abrams, DA Fani Willis, and more?) It is poetic justice and a lesson for us all.
I've been happy to notice that ironic twist for a while now.
As a 70+ white woman raised in segregated Oklahoma, I've got one piece of advice for these low lifes: underestimate Black women at your peril!!
Imagine where we could have been if all women had had the same opportunities as males from the get-go. My wife was valedictorian of her class of 660 in St. Petersburg, FL, a National Merit Scholarship winner, Phi Beta Kappa in chemistry at Emory, one of five graduate students admitted to the Harvard Ph.D. program in chemistry in 1971, applied to and was accepted at six medical schools, choosing Stanford. In short, she's brilliant. She took over the Democratic Party in Polk County as chair and made amazing advancements and changes, all lost when new leadership stepped in after her 2-year stint. And then, there was my mom and four sisters, all brighter than me, my mom and three sisters being school teachers, but I'm the one who ended up with the Ph.D. and J.D. from Harvard. I will never discount the fact that I am a white male, on the one hand, and incredibly lucky, on the other hand. Still, I grieve for what my sisters missed. Early on (6 years of age) my mom forged me into a "woman's libber." It was my suggestion that my wife leave chemistry and pursue medicine, and in that profession as an Ob-Gyn she was masterful.
I truly, truly hope that black women of all ages are inspired by these women to register and VOTE. Sadly, before I retired, it seemed that most of the black women that I worked with were--with good reason--entirely focused on basic survival for their children and themselves.
One of Heather’s main points in her book is that repeatedly, it has been women and people of color (especially women of color) who have come to our rescue as a nation, forcing us to move ever closer to the notion that we are truly all created equal. As an old white guy who can do little more than vote and contribute to causes, I’m hoping that they (you) as well as youth step up to the plate as a massive unstoppable movement—to save our democracy and our planet.
It is a sad commentary, isn't it, that their focus was basic survival for themselves and their children, not being able to dream really big dreams? We Democrats are on the path to change that and we're running into opposition from the MAGA/KKK forces, which are reactionary and atavistic. It really is the dialectic at work. We are on the right side of humanity and history.
Richard, in the words of Rick Wilson, Everything Trump Touches, Dies. Ellis is just one of many taken in and by this conman, as we all know.
They thought they would win. And if they had, those people would have been set for life. Instead, they played stupid games and are now winning stupid prizes. Thankfully. But it might not have turned out this way - I think we came awfully close to losing our democracy, and it’s still at risk. I have no sympathy for any of these people who sold us all out. They all knew better, and didn’t care.
Excellent points, and we still are at risk.
And he will probably run the clock out with delays until his reelection. Biden is losing all the Muslim American votes now and the Progressives are done with him. The longer the house screws around the better it is for tfg.
Until the outrageous acts of Hamas I was scared witless. Now I am just filled with an underlying sadness.
Richard - shes 39 years old - old enough! Certainly not naive anymore.
And if she & Powell (whose far more than 39) are turning around after pleading guilty and spouting off the same lies? In my mind they both deserve much worse than probation & community service. I doubt either of them will be out by the side of the road cleaning up trash as ordinary folks would.
Maggie, I understand your anger and resentment. She and Powell deserve their punishments. What they attempted was nefarious. In part I suppose that it's my old age (83) that hates to see a life wasted. I don't know for sure. Still, it saddens me. Of course, had they been successful in bringing down our democracy, as many MAGA Republicans are still trying to do, it would be a different matter. This is far from being over.
It is a shame - all these lives wasted but thinking of what they intended for the rest of us? I've got 2 years on you. And you're right - far from over.
I can't feel sorry for an adult who willingly eats from the Trump buffet. She knew what he was about, filled her plate anyway to reap money and power, and when she got caught, went the Cry and Whine route. A stint in jail would have helped her grow up, but it's not to be.
Her life is not wrecked. The whole right wing ecosystem will continue to embrace her attention seeking.
You have much more faith in their loyalty to one another than I do. Look at what is happening in Congress right now over the fight to select a Speaker. There is no honor among thieves.
Well they managed to stick together to elect a thief. Christian Dominionism and insurrectionists win the day.
Crocodile tears have proved to be a crock for a number of MAGA:
https://apnews.com/article/jan6-capitol-riot-participants-change-tune-after-apologies-f0f37e1409da9366d2d3cc3de65502d9
This is going to happen all the way up the guilt chain without public descriptions and self-acknowledgments of their crimes; they will keep calling themselves political prisoners.
Anyone with experience of humans can read her tearful apology for exactly what it was - a cynical attempt to dodge responsibility and deflect attention from her years of work against the country. Boo hoo hoo, poor me. I was a pawn. Uh huh. Not.
“If only we could elect a president that would pardon my crimes because I did it for fealty, I wouldn’t have to debase myself in front of this mockery of justice”---- overheard by DFN Cub Reporter Dave
Dave - Is that a true quote by Jenna Ellis as overheard by a reporter??
DFN = Dave Fake News
Cub Reporter Dave overheard his own head making it up, but its so close to believable, isn’t it?
Jimmy Olsen approves
Mr White, maybe…..
Sidney Powell is claiming that Willis has extorted her into pleading guilty. Ellis and Powell are two peas on one pod. So, TC, you are correct. They are playing a clever game against Willis. Pleading guilty while third parties claim their innocence and that they are being extorted.
It is a clever play that some folks attribute to Steve Bannon. I looked for where I read that Bannon is behind the play, it is not my idea, but, I cannot find the reference now.
https://www.businessinsider.com/sidney-powell-doubt-election-results-attack-prosecutors-after-guilty-plea-2023-10
Of course Powell's plea deal was extorted. All plea deals are extorted, duh. The defendant is threatened with a worse fate if he or she refuses to take the deal.
Great point!!
It’s not extortion, because the prosecutor didn’t have to offer it in order to convict. It was a gift to get their testimony- more like a quid-pro-quo.
Of course it's extortion. The offer of a plea deal is always accompanied by the threat of something worse to follow if it isn't accepted—though admittedly a conviction on such a trivial charge isn't really much of a threat. Whatever happened to the big bad RICO case...?
Yes, but the something worse can happen without ever offering the deal. And if it wasn’t such a threat, why would they even bother taking a deal?
The payoff comes when they have to sit in the witness box at trial and tell the truth. If telling the truth is part of an extortion, your values suck.
We all watched it - Guilliani and company saying dead people voted; Ted Cruz trying to decertify PA’s election; Trump asking Raffensperger to fix the GA election for him; everybody bitching that Trump was cheated out when down-ballot Republicans won. There’s NOTHING NEW! The only thing, THE ONLY THING LEFT, is for them to say in a court of law, that it was all a scheme to defraud American voters. AND they’re getting quite a break for speaking. No, that isn’t extortion.
After October 7, I’d stack up my values against those of any progressive, anywhere, with absolute confidence.
Is it not some form of special hypocrisy to plead guilty while summoning up Jesus Christ as part of your motivation?
Does this rush of religious fervor occur only at the acts of lament?
Was she so isolated from society that she was unaware of alternate narratives of the sedition?
Crocodile tears don’t wash away the sins of false Gods.
Republicans see white supremacy as very Christian.
Well said.
I hope no judge will think otherwise, may they be pariahs for the sane majority as well as the MAGAts. No jail, but Slink back under your rocks, vermin.
Typical with sociopaths. They only respond to consequences.