As a North Carolinian, I want to apologize to the world for Meadows, DeJoy, Cawthorn, and others, but I can't because they are responsible for their own actions - I can only continue to oppose them and try to be part of a more inclusive, just, loving and equitable nation and world.
AND I hope they ALL go to jail, included the 45th President.
As a North Carolinian, I want to apologize to the world for Meadows, DeJoy, Cawthorn, and others, but I can't because they are responsible for their own actions - I can only continue to oppose them and try to be part of a more inclusive, just, loving and equitable nation and world.
AND I hope they ALL go to jail, included the 45th President.
Living in Texas, I certainly can't be critical of what is happening in other states! What bothers me is all the Republicans complicit in buying into the lies and producing anti-democratic legislation. Where is their courage, their integrity, their backbones? They aren't even calling out the intimidation and death threats that should not be tolerated in any civilized society.
Cathy, we need to stop being so naive as to expect courage and integrity from Republicans. With rare exceptions (Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger), they have none, and they’re just fine with that. As far as the GOP goes, courage and integrity are for chumps. They think we’re fools for expecting either from them. It’s all about amassing power.
I hear you, JR. Yes I think the Republican Party is irredeemable now and needs to disappear. Even heard a commentator talking about going to a multi-party government. I think that would be a good thing. I'm with John Adams that the worst evil to befall the Constitution would be the two party system. When people ask me what party I belong to I say the Synergists. Multiple perspectives lead to better solution for all. And I'd measured the country by a Well-Being Index rather than GNP.
Like Boebert, TFG's chosen candidate for the US Senate seat Richard Burr currently holds is a gun shop owner named Budd. The GOP, NRA, and other forces recruit from the extremes of their pools.
We need to clean up WNC for sure. Don’t agree about jail for 45, would be bad precedent. I’d settle for conviction and commutation of sentence without pardon.
My brother spent over a year in LEAVENWORTH (sent from a NYC courtroom!) for refusing induction in the military in the early 70’s. Seeing trump get fair and equal treatment under the law and incarcerated for his crimes, if found guilty, just might take away a teeny amount of the pain in seeing our principled, non-violent son/brother shackled and transported across state lines to a maximum security federal prison (cheap and easy to transport “peaceniks”).
Thanks for letting me vent. I know this may sound petty and quid pro quo-ish, but BECAUSE trump was President makes it all the more important to enforce the laws and see all the accusations he faces to a fair and legal end.
I respect your brother's choice and only regret that he had to do his 1+ year at Ft. Leavenworth. (In the early 1970's, Leavenworth was more of a dungeon, I believe.) I was in the army in the late 60's and serving in a highly classified unit. We were warned that if we spoke ONE word about what we did, we could get 20 years in Leavenworth, a pretty scary prospect. And that potential punishment was in effect for an additional 30 years AFTER we got out of service.
trump's crimes are far, far more deserving of punishment than your brother's stand on principle. It seems that in the U.S., the amount of "justice" the accused/convicted person receives is based on how much money that person has in order to pay lawyers. trump should get 20 years at Leavenworth plus returning with interest all the funds he looted while in office. And then there's Jarvanka. If they avoid penalties and punishment, then we still have a very unjust system.
I don't think so. The bad precedent has been letting presidents and other high rollers off the hook without penalties. After Watergate, Pres. Ford let ex-president Nixon escape legal penalties for his perjury and other crimes connected to Watergate. Ford said it was "for the good of the country." Pres. Bush Sr. let the Iran-Contra criminals all off the hook, saying it was so the country "can move forward." Well, we didn't move forward. The American public saw another clear example of the higher the position of the criminal, the less they would pay for their crimes. And so it goes....
As a North Carolinian, I want to apologize to the world for Meadows, DeJoy, Cawthorn, and others, but I can't because they are responsible for their own actions - I can only continue to oppose them and try to be part of a more inclusive, just, loving and equitable nation and world.
AND I hope they ALL go to jail, included the 45th President.
Living in Texas, I certainly can't be critical of what is happening in other states! What bothers me is all the Republicans complicit in buying into the lies and producing anti-democratic legislation. Where is their courage, their integrity, their backbones? They aren't even calling out the intimidation and death threats that should not be tolerated in any civilized society.
My country 'tis of thee
Sweet land of liberty
Where have you gone?
Cathy, we need to stop being so naive as to expect courage and integrity from Republicans. With rare exceptions (Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger), they have none, and they’re just fine with that. As far as the GOP goes, courage and integrity are for chumps. They think we’re fools for expecting either from them. It’s all about amassing power.
I hear you, JR. Yes I think the Republican Party is irredeemable now and needs to disappear. Even heard a commentator talking about going to a multi-party government. I think that would be a good thing. I'm with John Adams that the worst evil to befall the Constitution would be the two party system. When people ask me what party I belong to I say the Synergists. Multiple perspectives lead to better solution for all. And I'd measured the country by a Well-Being Index rather than GNP.
I understand Beverly. I’m from Kentucky, who contributes Moscow Mitch to the list of degenerates. 🤬
And in Colorado, my target is Lauren Boebert; an embarrassment to the state.
I'm not in her district but will financially help her opponent, whoever that may be.
Like Boebert, TFG's chosen candidate for the US Senate seat Richard Burr currently holds is a gun shop owner named Budd. The GOP, NRA, and other forces recruit from the extremes of their pools.
We need to clean up WNC for sure. Don’t agree about jail for 45, would be bad precedent. I’d settle for conviction and commutation of sentence without pardon.
Don’t agree. The continuing bad precedent would be to not lock up the white guy who broke the law.
My brother spent over a year in LEAVENWORTH (sent from a NYC courtroom!) for refusing induction in the military in the early 70’s. Seeing trump get fair and equal treatment under the law and incarcerated for his crimes, if found guilty, just might take away a teeny amount of the pain in seeing our principled, non-violent son/brother shackled and transported across state lines to a maximum security federal prison (cheap and easy to transport “peaceniks”).
Thanks for letting me vent. I know this may sound petty and quid pro quo-ish, but BECAUSE trump was President makes it all the more important to enforce the laws and see all the accusations he faces to a fair and legal end.
I respect your brother's choice and only regret that he had to do his 1+ year at Ft. Leavenworth. (In the early 1970's, Leavenworth was more of a dungeon, I believe.) I was in the army in the late 60's and serving in a highly classified unit. We were warned that if we spoke ONE word about what we did, we could get 20 years in Leavenworth, a pretty scary prospect. And that potential punishment was in effect for an additional 30 years AFTER we got out of service.
trump's crimes are far, far more deserving of punishment than your brother's stand on principle. It seems that in the U.S., the amount of "justice" the accused/convicted person receives is based on how much money that person has in order to pay lawyers. trump should get 20 years at Leavenworth plus returning with interest all the funds he looted while in office. And then there's Jarvanka. If they avoid penalties and punishment, then we still have a very unjust system.
I agree. I want him to rot in jail and die there, a very old man.
Sorry to be dark.
"...jail for 45, would be bad precedent."
I don't think so. The bad precedent has been letting presidents and other high rollers off the hook without penalties. After Watergate, Pres. Ford let ex-president Nixon escape legal penalties for his perjury and other crimes connected to Watergate. Ford said it was "for the good of the country." Pres. Bush Sr. let the Iran-Contra criminals all off the hook, saying it was so the country "can move forward." Well, we didn't move forward. The American public saw another clear example of the higher the position of the criminal, the less they would pay for their crimes. And so it goes....
Agree. Don't forget heavy fines, forfeiture of assets, and, if possible, revocation of his passport.
Revoke his passport? No way - let him find some other country to destroy!