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Saw that clip of frump doing frat boy things to his microphone. While I’m happy for people to have differing views from me, I have to say that if I met anyone who is still going to vote for 45 after that nationally embarrassing piece of trash theatre, I would readily assume they are indeed living in a gutter.

Think of it: the world saw that. The damage this person has visited upon the USA is inestimable.

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The ex-president of the US miming a blow job at a rally and on TV. I bet he enjoyed that as much as he enjoyed his fantasy about soldiers shooting Liz Cheney in the face. Monstrous and demented.

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And wasn't it last week he was admiring a golfer's supposed large penis? Perhaps his life long abuse of women is just hiding his true orientation - not that the gay community wants anything to do with this abomination.

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I have previously posted here my account of being employed by a vociferous homophobe who was subsequently arrested and convicted of soliciting sex from underage young men. He was the first of many examples that support my belief that the loudest critics of gay and bi men are closet cases.

Donald's philandering is his way of convincing himself and everyone else that he is heterosexual.

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One reason so many men are so homophobic, is that they can't imagine anyone treating them as they treat women. But, I agree that homophobia also reflects many men's shame about and disavowal of their own sexual desires for other men, perhaps even wanting to be the "submissive" one.

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I think one must be careful about stating conjecture as though it were fact. I cannot think of a homophobe I've known who was abusive or disrespectful toward women. Also, I don't think it's useful to guess what role a homophobe might want to play in a scenario he loathes.

I agree with experts who suggest that homophobia is created by external pressures, not internal. As with most prejudices, boys and men are taught by their social superiors to disapprove of homosexuality from an early age. This disapproval originates with The Church.

Same-sex relationships were not uncommon in ancient cultures and continued until the rise to power of the Roman Catholic Church. Feeling threatened by the spread of Islam, the Vatican believed that Catholicism could overwhelm Muslims by outnumbering them. They broke with Judaic and Orthodox tradition and condemned practices that would limit the number of births among Catholics, including homosexuality and abortion. They did so by misinterpreting and misusing scripture to support their condemnation.

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I think I might have misunderstood your comment. You are actually stating that you cannot think of a person who was both homophobic and a misogynist?

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It wasn't conjecture and I did use the phrase "one reason" in offering an explanation for why some men are homophobic. The church has been very successful in generating shame in men (and women) for having some natural desires, or just curiosity or inclinations toward same sex intimacy. So it's not just being taught, but it's being shamed. Then it's an internal process which drives some men to act on their homophobia. And as some men do mistreat women, their homophobia is also shaped by their fear of being treated in that same way. The mistreatment can include viewing women as inferior, and objectifying them. I suspect that many men don't like being objectified any more than women do.

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The appearance of the oh-so-handsome Johnny McEntee in Trump's entourage - as his "body man" no less - caused this gay man's gaydar to start clanging to beat the band.

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Well, I guess handsomeness is in the eye of the beholder. But then, Trump’s various and sundry women weren’t/aren’t nearly as gorgeous as some seem to think. The current iteration (not Laura Loomer) looks hard as nails and without pounds of makeup, would have no eyes at all.

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Interesting! I’ve never thought nor read of that supposition… but clearly makes sense.

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Terry, I agree with you about “orientation” and abomination is the right description. Simulating oral sex on the stage is beyond sick. What came to my mind are his small fingers which some have compared to the size of his penis. Another point – but now he says he wants to protect women if they like it or not. Substitute the word protect with control. I am saddened about HCR’s discussion of MAGA men controlling how their wives vote – or perhaps preventing them from voting? Already the SCOTUS has ruled or over-ruled in favor of purging a large number of voters in Viginia. I fear the SCOTUS will declare the 19th Amendment is unconstitutional and take us back 100 years.

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Well if the criminals on the supreme court tries this BS I hope women declare a national strike and shut down the country.

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And also follow Lysistrata’s example

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Or Lorena Bobbitt…

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Well they will then need to make room for men like me.

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The 19th Amendment can't be found unconstitutional, because it is part of the Constitution. It would have to be repealed through the same process that it was passed originally and that it highly unlikely to happen.

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Though we should remember that recently the Supreme Court seemed to ignore the plain meaning of the 14th Amendment with regard to a prohibition against people who had raised a rebelliion against the United States running for office.

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I want to know one thing? Protect us from what???

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Himself and other men of course.

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The “hard work” of thinking for ourselves, it seems.

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Anyone else an opera buff? Ever since he talked about "protecting" women, I've been reminded of one of the laugh lines in "Don Giovanni". When Don G is caught making a pass, he says "Esibisco la mia protezione". His servant Leporello follows suit, and quickly says that he too is exhibiting his ...protection. Well, in the opera it's funny.

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I knew a woman years ago who was controlled by husband re voting, kids also. Been around for eons

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It's actually quite common, that men demand their wives vote like they do, and it's also common that some of these women will act more independently once in the voting booth. It's amazing how many men are terrified of women's independence and power.

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I had never seen anything like the demands he made, abuse is powerful, even on smart women. He was just jealous that she was smarter.

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Courts can't declare constitutional amendments unconstitutional. By definition, the fact they became an official amendment makes them constitutional.

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One thing to keep clear is that it is difficult for SCOTUS to declare a constitutional amendment "unconstitutional". Being part of the constitution is the very essence of something being constitutional. They may not like it but the only way to strike down something that is part on the constitution is to repeal it. I don't think the courts have ever done what you suggest they could. It just doesn't make any sense. I'm not saying they couldn't try but I think it would quickly escalate into a REAL constitutional crisis.

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Yeah I thought about that in conjunction with his oral assault on the mic.

I was wondering if he was thinking of Palmer's "putter" at the time.

I mean, this is a guy who breaks into a dance on stage for 30 minutes during a rally. Who knows what goes on in what remains of his mind at this point?

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“Dance” is being very generous. Jeff Tiedrich described it as “swaying like an animatronic dildo”, which seemed pretty accurate.

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Yep, he was doing a “music” during his awkward DJ break. I guess this last one was a “warm up”. Hope he doesn’t do a “ love”.

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What should he have done during that 30 minutes while two medical emergencies were happening in the audience? Should he have kept speaking, or gone full out break dancing? What is wring with you toy callous jerk? Don’t like his politics, fine, but his behavior during this situation is probably the best thing he could have done.

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The people who fainted had been taken care of, but Cheetolini just got tired of answering “questions” (softballs from cult members), so he stopped. Lazy and senile. Great combination.

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Hmm. Well, maybe he should have said he was going to stop speaking and then quietly left the stage until he knew the people were being taken care of? Maybe have expressed some concern? Tossed a few rolls of paper towels?

"His behavior during this situation is probably the best thing he could have done." Sadly, you are probably right. That was the Stable Genius at his best.

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It was hardly a dance.

More like swaying in the common room of the memory care unit while waiting for supper.

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Yeah! I like those visuals better.

Change the scene to a prison yard and I think you've got it nailed!

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See, this is what Putin has over The Don. He knows that he’s bisexual and probably has film and pics to prove it. Vlad probably has the same over Ms. Lindsey Graham too.

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lol Ms. Graham

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Putin endorsed Kamala why do you think he did that?

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Putin endorsed Kamala?? In what universe do you live? :)

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The Troll-iverse.

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Putin made an off-the-cuff remark which got picked up on the news. Then later (I think the next day) his handlers disavowed this and said his support for Harris was just a joke. I'm sure at least one or two people were surprised.

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Evidence please, with links

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My thoughts exactly!

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My thoughts exactly! The orange blight is definitely compensating for something rotten at his core.

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I once had an idea for a sculpture. Trump enters a gender neutral bathroom and exits as a porn star. The image was too grizzly to cast into permanence.

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Hilarious!

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Let's hope no one is buying bullets out of petty cash ... so 3 states so far won't "let" federal authorities provide additional protection at voting locations? Interesting bit of stand -off.

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Frank, you could almost think they want election interference…..

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Well, duh

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yeah, I'm afraid so.... i've been wondering how far ballot sabotage might actually do... imagine a nasty pyro explosive detonated in a voting centre.

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Frank, I no longer feel any sense of security that such a thing could not happen. In fact, I assume it can and will. I would be even more despairing if I didn’t live in Blue Minnesota.

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My money's on the feds. Go get 'em Elliot Ness.

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I can't see the feds not going in if they don't have jurisdiction, so what's the story?

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There seems to be a difference of opinion on who has jurisdiction - feds or local authorities. I'm not a lawyer, have no clue what the legal reality is, but my instinct says fed beats local on matters of public safety. We could look it up if we knew which three states and the wording of their refusals.

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maybe it got discussed on msnbc half of them are lawyers and they have lawyer guess galore esp over trump, anyway, more in the news maybe, maybe the states just tell feds what they will do for security and everyone take a break

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It could be worse: could be the Republican Candidate for the next Presidency of the US. Think of that! I think he's lost it. Needs tranquillising. Or something.

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Trump’s “concepts of a plan” would crash the economy of the US and make the pandemic look like child’s play. We have made investments over decades for our retirement. Trump’s stupid ideas could crash the stock market taking our retirement with it. Try the big Cheetos for his treason and throw him in jail. He has never been held accountable for anything until very recently. Enough already!

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JennSH, this is why I am amazed that so many Rs still support him. Ordinary people will be in a world of hurt as they say goodbye to Social Security, Medicare, and the ACA. Not only would the US suffer, but the world economy as well.

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I'm choosing to think of all the Republicans who are voting for a Democrat for the first time in their lives!!! He Can Not Win!!!

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Well, he can, Gayle, but he must not. I think the gurlz are on it. So are the Latinos, now. I expect LeBron James will bring some male sports fans on board. And Ahnold will haul in some Haley voters.

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I know a sweet man who is voting Dem for his first time in his 50 years. Mostly because his team is anti-science now, but we had a long talk about what it means to be a democracy. What will he go back to? Can they morph back from a cult in two years?

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We moved a significant portion to cash positions a while back

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I suspect the markets will be significantly lower by January if Trump gets elected.

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so some businesses or more are already making contingency supply plans, including of course, passing prices along to consumers. Then imagine a mass deportation of employed undocumented immigrants getting underway after inauguration, then thousands of federal employee layoffs as depts gets axed etc.

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I am waiting for the election outcomes but I ready to do the same -

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What he needs is to be GONE from our lives.

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Maybe if we smuggle him inside one of his no return rockets 🤔

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Strap he and Elon to one of the Space X rockets and send them off together. You know how badly Mars wants to be inhabited by white oligarchs.

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I still like Michelle's "they go low, we go high". We win with votes. If America loses Tuesday I blame the voters as much as the despot and his sycophant. He can go the Mars but his types are still here.

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Maybe if Biden takes his presidential immunity for a test drive. He can wear his aviator shades.

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😂

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That’s a disgusting comment. What kind of person must you be?

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Bill, no martyrs.

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And muzzled in a soundproof room with no internet access and no visitors allowed.

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Actually Biden’s dog just got muzzled from too many problems and after Joe bit babies at the WH last weekend he’s been muzzled too.

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Yes Harvey, Please Lord, hear our prayers!

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It is worse

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He probably has a form of dementia, but won’t admit it, and too many people are willing to ignore his pathological statements and intentions. I take Trump at his word in the evil things he wants to do, but not in his promises that they will improve the country. They will make us worse off, and Musk’s promises of temporary economic hardship are lies. They will mean the permanent impoverishment of most people for the benefit of billionaires like Musk, as nothing is ever enough to sate their greed.

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I think you are square on with this one. Musk??? he hasn't the political nuance god gave an alligator.

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As an ex-pat New Yorker, I subscribed to NY-based publications for a long time. The Trump family appeared in the press frequently. Mary Trump has filled in gaps in press coverage. No doubt, Donald is in the throes of dementia now, but it is only exacerbating his lifelong deficiencies. He was recognized by his family as "the dumb one," and they used their wealth to shield him from being exposed.

Fred Trump bought Donald's enrollment into exclusive schools . His grades were fabricated. Later, he paid others to take his tests when he could. This is why his school records are kept under wraps.

Fred Trump was a sleazy slumlord, son of a brothel owner, based in Queens, not an enclave for aristocrats. Mary Anne Trump was a Scottish immigrant who made a living as a house cleaner until she married Fred. By cutting corners and cheating his tenants, Fred amassed some wealth, but he and his wife never acquired any refinement, and Donald is a product of that low-class mentality.

Fred expected Donald to break the glass ceiling that blocked the Trumps from joining Manhattan aristocracy. Despite Fred's investment of millions in that mission, his crude, crass son failed. Most of Donald's perpetual anger and grievance stems from that rejection. He has turned his vengeance on society in general.

As his deteriorating mind loses its grasp of reality, social restraints are breaking and he is reacting to his life's situation as a cornered, rabid dog.

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Recently I saw an interview by Al Jazeera with Mary L Trump [niece of Donald Trump] who is a Psychologist. It is so revealing of the Trump Family...and captures so much of your conversation above and more.

Below is most revealing also...

10 Signs of a Malignant Narcissist

Malignant narcissists often experience severe dysfunctions in their personal relationships, work, and ability to function in other areas of life. Their reckless behavior, disregard for others, and inability to form healthy relationships can make them easier to spot than people with fewer traits or more mild or ‘covert’ forms of narcissism.

Below are 10 common signs of a malignant narcissist:

1. They Use, Abuse, & Discard People

One of the main signs of a malignant narcissist is their long history of using, abusing, and discarding people who are no longer useful to them. Those closest to them will often see a pattern of broken relationships and friendships, as well as family members and significant others who have become useless or irrelevant to them. A malignant narcissist may very quickly drop someone after they’ve used this person to fulfill their narcissistic supply.

2. They Are Obsessed With Power

Malignant narcissists are often hungry for power and obsessed with ways to get more of it. They often vie for jobs that afford them this power or form relationships with people who are vulnerable to their control. Because they lack the ability to find worth within themselves, they have an extreme need for positions of superiority to make them feel successful.

3. Everything Is Personal for Them

To a malignant narcissist, everything is personal. If a person makes a joke about them, forgets to call them back, or if they are passed over for a promotion at work, they will be deeply offended and angry, triggering a narcissistic collapse. In the narcissist’s world, there is no such thing as an explanation for why someone does not treat them in the way they expect (and in their mind, deserve) to be treated.

4. They Hold Grudges & Take Revenge

A malignant narcissist is easily offended and when they are, their revenge can be brutal. People with this personality disorder tend to hold long grudges against anyone who has wronged or slighted them in any way. Even disagreeing with them, providing feedback, or questioning something said can result in swift, anger-filled revenge. A malignant narcissist may punish others by lashing out, ignoring them, or even cutting them off altogether.

5. They Take Pleasure From the Suffering of Others

Malignant narcissists can be cruel and even display traits similar to those with sadistic personality disorder, seeming to take a sick pleasure or satisfaction in the suffering of others. They may laugh or mock, intentionally humiliate, or use personal knowledge against someone. Unfortunately, this also means that they can be predators who will manipulate, abuse, and exploit people, either for personal gain or just for fun.

6. Nothing Is Ever Their Fault

Narcissists (and especially malignant narcissists) usually do not take the blame for any of their words or actions, even when they’re clearly in the wrong. Instead, they tend to lash out, get defensive, and find ways to blame other people, even when they have to bend and distort the truth to do so.

7. They Are Ruthless in Their Pursuit of What They Want

Malignant narcissists will often be ruthless in their pursuit of power, wealth, success, or recognition. When they want something, there may not be any line they’re unwilling to cross to get it, even at the direct expense of others who they say they care about. They may lie, manipulate, use, or even discredit people in order to get what they want.

8. They Don’t Have a Conscience

A lack of empathy or regard for the feelings of others is a symptom of both APD and NPD, and is common in malignant narcissists. People with this personality type will often have no remorse or regret for things they’ve done that have caused harm. Sometimes, it may be necessary to fake remorse in order to get what they want. However, typically they will admit no wrongdoing at all and genuinely don’t feel bad for their behavior.

9. They Have Many Enemies

It should come as no surprise that a malignant narcissist will have a long list of enemies, usually one that includes former friends, lovers, and members of their own family. They tend to make enemies easily as even the slightest offense can cause them to discard anyone. Because relationships are only a means to an end for them, it’s fairly easy for a malignant narcissist to break off a tie, even with those close to them.

10. No One Will See Their Insecurities

Deep down, narcissists are extremely insecure. However, a malignant narcissist will never let these insecurities show to others. Instead, they will become defensive, lash out, shut down, or even destroy relationships when they feel threatened. They will often mask their low self-esteem behind a façade of arrogance or grandiosity.

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Nailed it, Dale!

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Lovely pocket history, Dale. It's possible for new money to climb into aristocratic society, but not by open displays of vulgarity. If he had managed to get into that enclave, we'd all be saying how eccentric he is, not how demented. At least we can name him for what he is since he's still a commoner. And there's no one commoner than that suckling pig on the podium.

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Dale, excellent post.

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Timothy Snyder to Molly Jong-Fast (paraphrasing): International oligarchs have more in common with each other than with their countrymen. And oligarchic control results in the impoverishment of their countries (see: Russia, Hungary, Venezuela).

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0W5V1EXzG9Rf4drC976IYK?si=OgWSvBUAS_GoDo0V5ne0xA

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Best Snyder interview I have listened to. There is just something wrong with the desire to be a rich man in a poor country.

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Kathy, t & co are a gang of sociopaths & psychopaths who want to belong to putting kim ill and errorbegone.

I so wish it was only dementia. But I agree with you he must have it in one form or another. Here, even in MA I’m bracing myself for violence even as

I’ve been basically an optimist up to this juncture. It’s amazing these goons feel so safe they can easily to talk about shooting, rounding up their ‘enemies’. Of course, that language incites the uneducated followers even here.

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He's so lost in delusion, samani, that there will be blood, no matter the outcome of the election.

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Lies and truth mixed in to fool the fools. HE will improve for his rich bastards from what he takes from enemies (most of us). Hitler used Jewish treasure for his war chest. You are so right. Muskrat is as narcissistic as chump

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Let's hope Muskrat goes broke trying to protect his wealth and chump ends up at the puzzle factory.

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It could mean a President JD Vance…even worse?

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Absolutely worse, Lonni. We have to keep these monkey paws away from the levers of power, and I think we are. Vote, vote, vote.

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Kathy, you have it in one. Excellent to the point post.

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Well, I simply don’t understand about the modern-day liberal is they seem to be negative in advance…. and fatalists which is really kind of sad when they live in America. Why don’t you wait and see as you might remember he was already our president and things were pretty damn good other than Covid, which was a global pandemic a once a century problem Elon musk was a lifelong Democrat, but I guess you forget that now that he has an R in front of his name. Elon Musk should be elected the leader of the FreeWorld for his ingenuity, his wrist, taking his inventions which exceed anything our government has ever been able to do you realize that. I kind of feel sorry for you that you’re so negative about tomorrow, but hopefully you’ll be open minded enough to watch and see. Why don’t you Google Trump administration accomplishments so you see both sides of the coin dismiss what you’d like but they’re there for you to see

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And people, mostly men, want to vote for THAT?

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You're too sane, Harvey!

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People are strange, Harve. Ask Jim Morrison. We're all due for a trip overseas, why not visit Père LaChaise?

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Harvey I looked at that crowd behind him there are some young women and young men. Clueless

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Guys, if this is your hero, I’d think again.

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Alexandra Sokoloff -- I am fully expecting Trump's public behavior and displays to *increase* in obscenity and vulgarity.

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Judith and Marge - I agree. Desperation and dementia.

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It’s another common symptom of dementia.

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Alexander, Of course, he enjoyed it because he has long been a total sleaze. I do smile at the attempts of Rs to walk back items like the Cheney firing squad and little Johnson saying he didn't hear the question accurately.

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Such wussies, Michele. Maybe TFG will grab them in one of his fugues.

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Uninhibited sexualized speech can be a sign of dementia.

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It’s like he has practice

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Forgive me, but I have my fantasy, too:

What if Liz Cheney were to challenge Trump to meet her at noon on Sunday (or any time, any day) on 5th Avenue. Pistols at 20 paces, or whatever the traditional rules call for. I bet that she's a better shot than he is... And I know that she's not a coward.

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Hate to hit like cause your right but there is nothing to like about it.

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Solo surrounded by drooling sycophants.🤮

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Diana, his mask is crumbling. Look at his fantasy about Liz Cheney: says it all, doesn’t it? If a woman says ‘no’ to Donny, the b*tch might as well deserve to die in his eyes. How _can_ she refuse him, the big, strong , sexy man? Heaven forbid the woman is intelligent enough to think for herself, too! Better shoot her, then.

I’m appelled at the blatant misogyny the Convicted Orange Felon is displaying, as well as his cult followers, but on the other hand it’s a good thing: as said, the masks are crumbling and these so-called “Christians” and “patriots” are showing their true, women-hating colours. Although one could argue if it’s really hate: I think, deep down, they are afraid of women.

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One of my favorite Trump anecdotes: While he was a "student" at Penn, he noticed a cute coed named Candice Bergen had been elected homecoming queen or some such honor. According to what I read, he considered her "hot" and invited her on a date in his (as I remember...) burgundy Cadillac convertible. Her answer? "ABSOLUTELY NOT!"

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Yes, they are afraid of women and the inborn power that we have to direct, coordinate, manage, and succeed in anything we do. Not to mention that we are the ones who bring life into the world. How else do you explain the early church rhetoric that put women in a subordinate position in the first place? A group of small-minded, insecure, men with damaged thinking blamed women for being "tempting" to them and had to do something to make themselves feel powerful.

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When I was a young woman, Richard Quine directed a black comedy called, " Oh Dad, Poor Dad, Mamma's Hung You in the Closet and I'm Feelin' So Sad." It was an early (1960s) attempt of the present-day "women's movement" to throw off the latest round of paternalism that began when the "monotheistic" religions overthrew the earlier matriarchies... Kamala Harris said yesterday in a Milwaukee interview that her faith informs her opinion that the leader of the free world should be (paraphrasing) the one who will do good works to bring people together and lift them up. Enough said.

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Oh my. you must be talking about the emperor Constantine and the appropriation of the church by the western Roman aristocracy! Convenient that. the first 200 years of the church was. could have been, should have been written by women. they got shit done then and they get shit done now. That darned Constantine fella.....

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Seeee!!! There are still smart people in America!!👍

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Mrs Trump’s Cadillac had the license plate Mrs T. She had a black driver and would drive around the neighborhood going to the apartment buildings they owned collecting the quarters from the washing machines. How sweet, mommy lent Young Donald the family car so he could go out on a date. Yep, there is a sprinkle of snarky with my coffee this morning.

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Ew, gross

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An intelligent, assertive women easily threaten men's fragile egos.

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A man of quality is not threatened by a woman of equality.

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Nope. To be honest: it is quite the opposite. I find it totally attractive when a woman is intelligent. This "playing-dumb" bimbo-ish stuff really puts me off...

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C'mon Harv.., so many "intelligent" beings prefer to defer to what's printed in that good book. Yeah... the DT copy printed in China. That book.

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That’s sad.

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Scared as hell. The mother. Women are mother to all

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Exactly! Small, scared men failing to meet the 21st century pining for the 19th century when men were men...and women and Black people were kept in their place by them, no right to vote, own property or question their behavior.

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It’s only been 50 years since we finally were allowed to have credit cards. I was 22.

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I was denied a bank card in 1973, some bullshit about my work history not being long enough. Got married and husband got a card no problem, even tho he had no job at the time, was fulltime student

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In early 1971, a single woman, I received an unsolicited Mastercard (the actual card) in the mail. I remember within a few months because I lived in the location for only a few months before moving from a converted 3-car garage to small 1-bedroom apartment a few blocks down the beach.

Oddly enough, re Barbara (NJ)'s comment, I had been working only a month or so after at least 5 months not employed. No application requested. I believe sending unsolicited credit cards was soon made illegal, OR credit card companies realized it was pretty stupid to send cards to unvetted clients. I don't recall which.

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How long is it since you were allowed to vote?

How long it it since you were allowed to become doctors?

Both of them not much more than a century ago; that's a damn small part of human history...

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they are indeed. Ever hear Magas take men to task for insistent sex et al. Men do the raping "by and large", so while i somewhat understand male sexual frustration in modern society thanks to biology , dominance and woman blaming is another kettle of fish, sadly deeply written into the historical record. Women have put with more than a lot these many many centuries.

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And we’re fed up - not going back!

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the only way out is up

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And they are mostly damaged goods, just like that c*cksucker Trump.

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"Damaged goods". That's putting it quite eloquently. I'm stealing that one, by the way ;)

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All of this is true. Not a few women have gotten the better of Trump, and he is only capable of viewing women in sexual terms, not as intelligent humans capable of many things. The way he’s publicly discussed his daughter Ivanka in ways no reputable father would do, is typical of Trump.

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lol, it's a good old rhetorical standby.

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David- do you mean microphone-sucker?

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I think we have a new term for him ... "micsucker." The moderators won't flag that, even though it's truly repulsive.

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As someone named Mike, I object. No, I cast a veto.

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Hehehehhh... yuppr David. Up heahh, it's more-correctly pronounced C*cksuckahh. And, you know what David.., I havce the distinct impression that Bill Barr and #45 just blew each other awayyyy along with all the Proud Boyz. Now there's some "family values" for ya. Huh.

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I can't unsee that visual--where's the eye bleach?????

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Just like the use of words that end in uck. So unnecessary in a civilized society, much less in public office or the government of this nation. We need to haul this back a notch. I guess it's just a reflection of the level of frustration we are feeling. Please don't blame the "media".., to me the media just conveys the illiteracy expressed by public figures, such as those within our dis-functional Congress, the kow-towing senators, phoney-news bloviators, some judges, etc. And, need I say it.. those who would lie to our face or deny saying something they were recorded saying. Quite simply, we're just at a loss for words. It's nutty.

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I wonder if trump,who is ready to protect women whether they like it or not, would include Liz Cheney

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fear and hate are tangled emotions all too often.

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Dutch, I always smile when my wife sees me about to do something stupid and she suggests an alternative approach. “But of course, thank you Dear”

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He’s a gift that keeps on giving Mike, every time he opens his yap something monstrous comes out, that any sane person wants nothing to do with. That said there is the risk that a majority of our fellow Americans might like what he says, which says a lot about their intelligence. Given how entrenched the repugnantkins are in our culture, they totally blew it by nominating him to be their standard bearer, if a younger more sane repugnantkin was their nominee, we might have a much tougher fight on our hands. Think about how smoothly what’s his name Vance lies, the repugnantkin threat is not going away, they will learn from their mistakes and become more dangerous to our democracy. I could be wrong and it’s possible that they might learn their lesson and start to focus on the betterment of all Americans, like Ike’s republicans did, but I wouldn’t hold my breath on that happening. The repugnantkin threat is deeply ingrained in the maggot base and there will be no end of people who will want to use them for their own ends. If we keep defeating them in the mid-terms and generals they will eventually fade into irrelevance, which is where they belong in the first place, since they offer nothing for the benefit of all Americans only the very wealthiest among us who need their help the least.

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Dutch, I think it is much deeper…. They are , as someone already mentioned, afraid of who they aren’t! Healthy humans aren’t needing to demean anyone else in order to feel power. Poor lot of them…. If they could just go home and leave the rest of us alone.

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It seems to mimic the recent actions of the taliban. Nice. /sarcasm/

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Well, if I was a convicted felon and abuser, I’d be afraid of both Kamala Harris and Liz Cheney for good reason. Do you think the orange squash will melt before our very eyes?

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I'm still hoping for spontaneous combustion.

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Professor Lawrence Tribe posted to his 1.5 Million followers that Trump's act " ... is a criminal threat to kill LIZ CHENEY" . Prosecute the Perp.

Per the North Carolina State Board of Elections, "more than 4 Million in NC have cast their Ballots" as of 2 pm Friday. That is 4,009,149 Ballots to be exact "more than 51.2% of NC's Registered Voters." Reject the Wreck.

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'Reject the Wreck'! - another good bumper sticker!

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So hope there is Maga dissolving acid in that early vote!

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Well ... it's a very good start to dissolving the maga vinegar.

Saturday Morn Update: Per ABC News 8 hours ago -- more than 70,000,000 have voted so far!

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Flush hard!

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I suggest using Morton's Salt to rid our nation of this MAGA slugfest.

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Outrageous that any person would do that on stage much less a candidate for the Presidency.

But we all know that Trump could pull a Jim Morrison on stage and his MAGAs and white Christian Nationalist followers would still back him.

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Christianity ain’t what it purported to be when I was a pup. Even when I became an old dog

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As Heather reported this week, the white Christian Nationalist preachers are ordering the women attending their churches to vote for Trump.

And, as my niece witnessed several Trump since inside a Catholic Church in Omaha while attending a wedding.

Wouldn't the Catholic Church have a fit if they lost their 501c3 status and had to pay property taxes on all of their lavish real estate holdings across the US?

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Gary, they continue to lose some of those holdings -- didn't I just read a few days ago the San Francisco diocese was ordered to pay nearly a billion in compensation?

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Yeah. For the sexual abuse of CHILDREN.

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They should have been closed down a long time ago...

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Tax exempt is okay. But, violation of our laws isn't part of the deal. What's wrong here?

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Well Doug.., good spot. The "San Francisco diocese".., now there's definitely a load of C*suckahhs in-bedded there. They've been allowed to protect their own for ages, hiding in plain sight.. ostensibly, under the grace-of-god. Will they continue to do so? Money talks. Kind of like some hypo-critic oath chiseled in stone somewhere in the cellars of Rome.

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That is heartbreaking.

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It is. Our newspaper in Bay City Mi has not reported on this. And now I'm wondering if this is a relative of my late husband. How cruel to do this to him.

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Well.., since the Church is the keeper of the keys, the perverts are just moved from one location to another. And, the people who absolutely know what is going on are guilty as well. At the same time though, this stuff illustrates how such behavior exists throughout societies or cultures or religions everywhere. Every one of them now exposed by the internet. Very difficult to make some sense of it all.

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It’s the scam of the century. With vulnerable people lined up to pay for a pat on the head and a PROMISE of redemption.

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As a non-religous Jew I am more Christian than any of them.

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The funniest moments are when you tell a Christian Trumper how Jesus was Jewish - not Christian. This stumps many of the young folks who are self-described Christians and have no clue about religion.

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I 100% believe that. As an ex, I Am as well.

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This is the Corporate America version of Christianity. It has nothing to do with the Jesus who threw the money lenders out of the Temple.

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Wish some MAGAts that I used to respect felt that way…

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Christianity lost its way a very long time ago, when it became a patriarchy taking orders from the Vatican. I wonder what Jesus would have thought of the pomp and ceremony and ornate churches and the weird and ridiculous costumes. Just give money, and redemption is yours.

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I think the Jesus that was presented to me would clean out the temple (or the den of iniquity)

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Except he wouldn't be pulling a Jim Morrison", at least according to Stormy. 🤣

Plus he'd have to untape the diaper first -- very embarrassing when done in public.

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Yes Gary, specially those pious protestant men that are possible sleeping better by knowing that trump, found liable for sexual assault, will protect their wives, sisters and mothers...😵‍💫

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I would vote for Jim Morrison's steaming heap before I would vote for Trump.

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Gary, and he still might. Sexual acting out is not uncommon in dementia.

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It’s just another version of “I could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose a single supporter,” isn’t it? He’s somewhere between a perpetually horny adolescent bragging among his peers and a toddler continually testing the limits of his parents to see if they care enough about him to discipline his behavior. His personality disorder is on full display, but his inhibitions are failing him, a typical sign of dementia.

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You nailed it, Maureen. Far from normal and nowhere near presidential. JD Vance is probably practicing his presidential address, which is very scary. 🤮🤢 vote them all away!!

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hmmm good chance, given his age and health, he has erectile dysfunction.

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But he can still sexually harass and abuse with his inability to cease the spewing of his innards

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No, mental wreckage but not the Alz that my husband had. At least his character was his core and not cheap veneer

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There are many ways that dementia manifests. Could be late stage syphilis as far as we know. Also, he may not drink but he reportedly abuses adderall like it’s his job!

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Yep and I studied them in grad school. Then I met one head on. Always so glad I didn’t meet the others. Chump is damaged but damage and evil are not mutually exclusive.

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Diana, I hadn't heard of that until just reading it now. I'll bet his audience laughed and cheered at this perversion of a man seeking the presidency.

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In my mind and in common language trump is a first class pig! What an embarrassment for our country.

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NOW IS THE TIME

Now is the time to think of what life under a Donald Trump/Vance dictatorship would be like. People need to face reality so they can be motivated; Professor Timothy Snyder does just that here: https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-strongman-fantasy-text-and-audio

Make sure you share it.

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Not likely the people you might want to hear or read will take it in. But Snyder has seen the gruesome outcomes in spades, try his Borderlands, the biggest thing though when he talks about the strongman fantasy is that there are all too many willing to be organized to do the killing. Given that record, the strongman fantasy is more than just that.

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Brief excerpt from Timothy Snyder link provided by Michael Corthell:

“At least, the fantasy goes, the strongman will get things done. But dictatorial power today is not about achieving anything positive. It is about preventing anyone else from achieving anything. The strongman is really the weak man: his secret is that he makes everyone else weaker. “

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HOW can ANY self-respecting woman vote for the felon/rapist?!? My state rep here in Bristol CT saunters around in MAGA/Trump dresses?!? Just sick!!

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Good Lord

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As a lot of people are, I'm embarrassed for my country. The world looks at us with amazement and fear at our stupidity for having someone on the ballot of this caliber. If we get past this, there needs to be some guidelines going forward for candidates to the highest office in the nation.

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Okay, I TRUST HCR, but I had to search for a clip to see if this is really real.

https://x.com/LouWhompus/status/1852637529981276392

This is the first clip I saw and there is ABSOLUTELY NO MISTAKING THIS.

I absolutely always kid myself by thinking Trump can go no lower--and he does.

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And by the way, as I read it, I said OMG out loud. My husband, reading it a few minute later, made a disgusted noise, so I knew he hit the same spot in the letter.

I cannot believe the world we are living in.

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I looked through all of the cites in Dr. Richardson's Letter for today and couldn't find anything resembling Trump simulating oral sex with his microphone. While it's in many ways a trashy, unnecessary aside compared to all the other, better documented misbehaviours, I'd appreciate it if you could post a link to the clip.

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did you notice the crowd was wowing him on? What's that say!

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That they are freaking gonzo.

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Thanks, Mary Pat. It’s unbelievable even when we see it!

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there are plenty of clips of it if you google it. I'm embarrassed to say I did!

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So did I. I am astounded it isn't the top feed on Yahoo.

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Thanks, Derek.

Anyone going here might just skip to the 3:02 -- 3:05 mark.

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It is just as easy to write (and it would be true) that the world thinks tremendously of the United States of America. Why? Our economy is the best in the world and is a master class in how to rebound from the economic devastation of a pandemic. We elected an honored and experienced world leader in the person of Joe Biden in 2020. We have a candidate who embodies what the United States stands for in the person of Kamala Harris.

The world sees our leadership in Ukraine, our strengthening of NATO, our fight against the dominance of China economically, our establishment of the Japan, Australia, India USA Alliance, Our capable representative in Secretary Blinken, etc.

The World Leaders are smart people and see the big picture. As for the people enjoying their weekends in France, Italy, and all over the world I doubt they care a whit about this election.

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Unfortunately there are too many of those living in a gutter. Hopefully a coalition of Women, Puerto Ricans, Muslims and many other decent American overwhelming defeat this "genius " whose main ability is cheating, being dishonest and offensive. Let's see if he alone can fix this.

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Thing being, it's on Repeat, repeat, amplify!

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And to think how aghast the R's were that Bill Clinton got a little blow job in his office. As if it weren't a normal part of sex. Oh, but Clinton LIED about it! Really, MAGA? You give a tinker's damn about lies?

We have to keep calling him out on his lunatic stuntery and turning our backs on him. America will survive the shame if we clearly shun him, better yet jail his sorry ass. Really he belongs in an institution for the criminally insane, but I can live with prison.

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