I tucked my almost 12-year old daughter into bed tonight with a story about the deaths of women before Roe. Any girl who is old enough to become pregnant if raped is old enough to hear these stories.
I tucked my almost 12-year old daughter into bed tonight with a story about the deaths of women before Roe. Any girl who is old enough to become pregnant if raped is old enough to hear these stories.
You are wise and very brave to do this, Eleanor. Sometimes, being frankly, or in this case, brutally honest with our children is the best choice to make to protect our children. To think that you do that because of our government which now poses to rule women instead of honoring them does not make me sad. I am furious. And how dare they manage a “leak” of a draft. For what? Lay the groundwork, rile up women to show how “emotional” they can be? Get our minds off the fight for democracy in other world locations and remind us it’s fading here? And right before Mother’s Day?
Loathesome. Go ahead, lay down your scandalous gauntlet, Supreme Court and treasonous state legislatures.
Make sure your daughter knows that she stands on the shoulders of great women in this country spanning more than one generation.
As far as the “leaked draft” goes……… I believe the opposite of you Christine about their intent. I believe it was a reproductive rights supporter who leaked it. And for exactly the reason you and I are furious this morning: rip the bandaid of apathy off the Americans sitting on the sidelines. This energizes us to finally accept we ARE in a Lexington and Concord moment. Everything really IS at stake. My question to all candidates will be “Do you support coat hangers?” That is my new symbol for our opponents.
I too have thought that the leak probably came from the minority, they have been paying attention all along after all, and they know just who lied in order to get a seat beside them. The outrage this leak has inspired is unprecedented, this is perhaps the hornets nest the nation has needed to align a lot of voices into a roar. I would put good money on a huge turnout in November, this will unite a lot of people with very disparate interests, just how many really want to see a return to the coat hanger era, which I remember all too well.
The very welcome draft leak is horrifying for more reasons than abortion. Using Alito’s reasoning, women’s right to vote may very well be on the line! Blacks right to vote. Same sex marriage. If this doesn’t rile up the country, then we’re in a sorry place. I know my 81 year old self and my 59 year old daughter will be in the protest already planned for next week in Santa Ana, CA. Proven again, the one word to sum up Republican leaders is “liar.”
As awful as this SCOTUS attack will apparently be on “unenumerated” rights - of which there are many - the right to vote regardless of race and gender are protected by the Constitution, in specific Amendments. (States unfortunately have a huge say in how voting actually takes place.)
IMO, as we fight back, we must keep our facts straight in order to have maximum credibility.
Oooo, I like having both possibilities covered, Michele. And your proposed question for all candidates made me throw my phone in the air, clap twice, and then catch it.
I'm organizing a Mother's Day March in Salt Lake City—or trying to. I've got a very busy day today and our big-hitter with Planned Parenthood is out of town for the weekend. But, as I told my League of Women Voters president: I don't want breakfast in bed, I want a revolution.
I do wonder why this leaked. I noticed also that immediately that lots of Ds and other entities were fundraising on it and I hope that the donations flow in. And one friend wasted no time in posting her outrage on Facebook. As I view the posts below, I do wonder if we are going to have an explosive Mother's Day. I already have the image of smokin' grills.
I'm organizing a Mother's Day March in Salt Lake City—or trying to. I've got a very busy day today and our big-hitter with Planned Parenthood is out of town for the weekend. But, as I told my League of Women Voters president: I don't want breakfast in bed, I want a revolution.
Women on Facebook are sharing information about getting help and where to go, what they can do. We’ve been reduced to using social media to get healthcare and reproductive care. Girls getting pregnant are starting to become more visible in high schools. I stated that since there’s a crisis in women’s reproductive care there’s going to be an increase in young girls needing support. A woman asked what crisis? Head in the sand!
I’ve stated on Facebook that 100% of unwanted pregnancies are caused by men. A man said what about the ones caused by women? Hello! Women cannot get themselves pregnant!
I cried when I saw the headline! Controlling women, pulling the rug out from underneath the poor. Upsetting and disheartening!
Reproductive care is healthcare. Healthcare is a HUGE concern for families. Women should be able to determine the size of their families which helps determine the health of their families.
Such spot on comments, Christine. We should all be furious! But I imagine a lot of us on this forum are furious. The malignancy of the R’s must always be fought. They are the American Taliban.
I had this very argument a couple years ago on my fleecebook page. Those that are "true believers" cannot grasp this very simple fact. That argument showed up on my "memories" page; numbering well over 100 interactions, I was reminded why I have quit posting anything (well, almost. I still stray from time to time): I end up giving these chowederheads* free rent in my head and it is counterproductive to my well-being.
*sanitized for what words I really wanted to use, a smorgasbord of profanity, blasphemy, and vulgarity.
I was thinking tonight of the two women students I knew in college pre-Roe who died from botched abortions.
I was also glad that the Friend of Jane I am partners with is too deep in late stage Parkinson's for tonight's news to really register with her. Not fully.
My experience is that all but rich women who were teenagers before 1973 can remember someone who died from a botched abortion. Now, as then, women and girls who have the means to travel will still be able to get an abortion. Women will die from ectopic pregnancies.
Some rich women could not share that they were ever pregnant with the purse string holders in their families and ergo also died from back alley or self done abortions
We talked through many things—and I have been open with her about what it is to have a body, to be a female, and so on. The gravity and details of our talk were different, but it was not too far of a leap from past topics. I was well into adulthood before I realized fully how treacherous life can be—by design. I would rather my daughter learn hard things at home where she can talk through her thoughts and worries than as a woman with nowhere to go for help. My parents are two of the people who have ushered in this era—as far as they are concerned, we are all part of an eternal plan and any difficulties on earth are temporary and mysterious. My daughter will be raised by a parent who believes life on earth is the life we are living and that knowledge is a measure of power. But it’s hard times,
Bless you! I taught my girls the same. They are in their 30’s now and very outspoken about their rights and the rights of others. You are correct, these are very hard times.
I wish I had had a wise mother, myself. I never knew a thing about my body let alone that it was mine and mine, alone. Children are a myth, in many ways, so I don't think there is anything but power to come from letting them in on the realities of life in "age appropriate" ways; my 8 year old is not getting the same talk as the almost-12 year old. All things in time, but they'll learn and be prepared. I'm an older mom at almost-50 and I feel like I'm not prepared—I just hope I can help them be safer and wiser than I ever was.
I tucked my almost 12-year old daughter into bed tonight with a story about the deaths of women before Roe. Any girl who is old enough to become pregnant if raped is old enough to hear these stories.
You are wise and very brave to do this, Eleanor. Sometimes, being frankly, or in this case, brutally honest with our children is the best choice to make to protect our children. To think that you do that because of our government which now poses to rule women instead of honoring them does not make me sad. I am furious. And how dare they manage a “leak” of a draft. For what? Lay the groundwork, rile up women to show how “emotional” they can be? Get our minds off the fight for democracy in other world locations and remind us it’s fading here? And right before Mother’s Day?
Loathesome. Go ahead, lay down your scandalous gauntlet, Supreme Court and treasonous state legislatures.
Make sure your daughter knows that she stands on the shoulders of great women in this country spanning more than one generation.
I honor all women as mothers.
Salud!
As far as the “leaked draft” goes……… I believe the opposite of you Christine about their intent. I believe it was a reproductive rights supporter who leaked it. And for exactly the reason you and I are furious this morning: rip the bandaid of apathy off the Americans sitting on the sidelines. This energizes us to finally accept we ARE in a Lexington and Concord moment. Everything really IS at stake. My question to all candidates will be “Do you support coat hangers?” That is my new symbol for our opponents.
I too have thought that the leak probably came from the minority, they have been paying attention all along after all, and they know just who lied in order to get a seat beside them. The outrage this leak has inspired is unprecedented, this is perhaps the hornets nest the nation has needed to align a lot of voices into a roar. I would put good money on a huge turnout in November, this will unite a lot of people with very disparate interests, just how many really want to see a return to the coat hanger era, which I remember all too well.
My son just told me he hung a coat hanger in his car window this morning.
"Do you support coat hangers?" Excellent question, Michele, excellent!
The very welcome draft leak is horrifying for more reasons than abortion. Using Alito’s reasoning, women’s right to vote may very well be on the line! Blacks right to vote. Same sex marriage. If this doesn’t rile up the country, then we’re in a sorry place. I know my 81 year old self and my 59 year old daughter will be in the protest already planned for next week in Santa Ana, CA. Proven again, the one word to sum up Republican leaders is “liar.”
As awful as this SCOTUS attack will apparently be on “unenumerated” rights - of which there are many - the right to vote regardless of race and gender are protected by the Constitution, in specific Amendments. (States unfortunately have a huge say in how voting actually takes place.)
IMO, as we fight back, we must keep our facts straight in order to have maximum credibility.
Hi, Uncle.
Maximum credibility is an absolute must, come h€ll or high water.
Oooo, I like having both possibilities covered, Michele. And your proposed question for all candidates made me throw my phone in the air, clap twice, and then catch it.
🙋🏻🙋🏼🙋🏽🙋🏾🙋🏿
I have two bags of unused wire coat hangers, which I'm tempted to ship to the Supreme Court.
Ruth Brinton, I now have a vision of mountains of wire coat hangers landing on the steps of the supreme court.
Agree. And right before the first primary elections. Opportunity for Dems, if we (they, them, herselves, himselves) don't screw it up.
I wondered that too because the outrage was immediate. And yes, coat hangers came to mind.
COAT HANGERS!
Yep, how to channel our rage on "Happy Mother's Day."
I'm organizing a Mother's Day March in Salt Lake City—or trying to. I've got a very busy day today and our big-hitter with Planned Parenthood is out of town for the weekend. But, as I told my League of Women Voters president: I don't want breakfast in bed, I want a revolution.
Woo hoo! As Christine in FL would say, sizzlin'!
Sizzlin', Christine - sizzlin'!! :-)
Yep. My griddle is smokin’ hot this morning, TC.
I do wonder why this leaked. I noticed also that immediately that lots of Ds and other entities were fundraising on it and I hope that the donations flow in. And one friend wasted no time in posting her outrage on Facebook. As I view the posts below, I do wonder if we are going to have an explosive Mother's Day. I already have the image of smokin' grills.
Information doesn't "leak".
This should not be available to the public, but somehow it is and so that's how this process is described...a leak.
I'm organizing a Mother's Day March in Salt Lake City—or trying to. I've got a very busy day today and our big-hitter with Planned Parenthood is out of town for the weekend. But, as I told my League of Women Voters president: I don't want breakfast in bed, I want a revolution.
I'm circulating that, OK?
Women on Facebook are sharing information about getting help and where to go, what they can do. We’ve been reduced to using social media to get healthcare and reproductive care. Girls getting pregnant are starting to become more visible in high schools. I stated that since there’s a crisis in women’s reproductive care there’s going to be an increase in young girls needing support. A woman asked what crisis? Head in the sand!
I’ve stated on Facebook that 100% of unwanted pregnancies are caused by men. A man said what about the ones caused by women? Hello! Women cannot get themselves pregnant!
I cried when I saw the headline! Controlling women, pulling the rug out from underneath the poor. Upsetting and disheartening!
Reproductive care is healthcare. Healthcare is a HUGE concern for families. Women should be able to determine the size of their families which helps determine the health of their families.
Such spot on comments, Christine. We should all be furious! But I imagine a lot of us on this forum are furious. The malignancy of the R’s must always be fought. They are the American Taliban.
I had this very argument a couple years ago on my fleecebook page. Those that are "true believers" cannot grasp this very simple fact. That argument showed up on my "memories" page; numbering well over 100 interactions, I was reminded why I have quit posting anything (well, almost. I still stray from time to time): I end up giving these chowederheads* free rent in my head and it is counterproductive to my well-being.
*sanitized for what words I really wanted to use, a smorgasbord of profanity, blasphemy, and vulgarity.
The Greek play "Lysistrata" gives us one means of moving forward.
I was thinking tonight of the two women students I knew in college pre-Roe who died from botched abortions.
I was also glad that the Friend of Jane I am partners with is too deep in late stage Parkinson's for tonight's news to really register with her. Not fully.
She will feel it in her female energy, TC. Keep her close.
My experience is that all but rich women who were teenagers before 1973 can remember someone who died from a botched abortion. Now, as then, women and girls who have the means to travel will still be able to get an abortion. Women will die from ectopic pregnancies.
Totally relived taking a friend to get a back ally abortion in 1967. She lived, but boy did she bleed.
We need to spread the news to young women who don’t know what it was like back then.
Some rich women could not share that they were ever pregnant with the purse string holders in their families and ergo also died from back alley or self done abortions
my heart breaks for her to hear this, but yes, you are correct.
We talked through many things—and I have been open with her about what it is to have a body, to be a female, and so on. The gravity and details of our talk were different, but it was not too far of a leap from past topics. I was well into adulthood before I realized fully how treacherous life can be—by design. I would rather my daughter learn hard things at home where she can talk through her thoughts and worries than as a woman with nowhere to go for help. My parents are two of the people who have ushered in this era—as far as they are concerned, we are all part of an eternal plan and any difficulties on earth are temporary and mysterious. My daughter will be raised by a parent who believes life on earth is the life we are living and that knowledge is a measure of power. But it’s hard times,
Bless you! I taught my girls the same. They are in their 30’s now and very outspoken about their rights and the rights of others. You are correct, these are very hard times.
Dang! Eleanor, I wish we all had a wise mother like you!!!!
I wish I had had a wise mother, myself. I never knew a thing about my body let alone that it was mine and mine, alone. Children are a myth, in many ways, so I don't think there is anything but power to come from letting them in on the realities of life in "age appropriate" ways; my 8 year old is not getting the same talk as the almost-12 year old. All things in time, but they'll learn and be prepared. I'm an older mom at almost-50 and I feel like I'm not prepared—I just hope I can help them be safer and wiser than I ever was.
You are more prepared than you think, Eleanor! You have lived a life and now you are helping your children live theirs. Can’t get better than that!
So now, along with black parents who have to sit their children down for “the talk”, we will also have to have a “talk” with our young daughters.
Ouch
😢