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Carol C's avatar

Elise Stefanik says mourn, don’t politicize. Does her party regret politicizing Covid public health measures? Do they mourn the unnecessary deaths that caused? So far no, and, no.

I am glad Biden named each Buffalo shooting victim and told something about each one. White Americans need to see Black Americans just being ordinary grocery-buying people. Black Americans are regular Americans. By the way, they are Legacy Americans, too, Tucker Carlson. They go way back, some as far back as 1619.

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TCinLA's avatar

Elise Stefanik is the worst kind of opportunist. She obviously has no moral compass and no core beliefs past "Gimme mine," and she will literally do anything to attain her goal.

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MK's avatar

The South Park writer, Toby Morton, snagged himself a website domain called https://www.elisestefanik2022.com and has been mocking her ever since. He even includes links to other "GOP Sycophant Websites." I'm normally a turn the other cheek kinda gal...Well not these days.

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Pam Peterson (West MA)'s avatar

I saw this "ad" yesterday and wondered how it got attributed to Stefanik. What a great spoof.

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

I saw that…brilliant! She’s such a “tool”, as my kids used to say.

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Holly Polich's avatar

No member of the GOP has a moral compass. No, not Liz Cheney, and no, not even John McCain. They still vote for the deeply heartless policies of the party. If they had a moral compass, they would leave the party altogether.

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james wheaton (Jay)'s avatar

Holly you have hit the nail right on the head. Although, many are "nice folks" by most definitions, and I believe have just not connected the dots. Call it willful ignorance. But to me that is no excuse. The Republican platform is not based on reality, and has no ability to respond to change and progress. Furthermore, it doesn't appear to support real democracy - although it won't be said outwardly, it covertly thinks only some people are meant to vote for their government. And they are willing to subvert the process to better assure only those people vote. Under the cover of voter fraud. And most importantly to me - a political party that rejects the notion of climate change and/or a policy to do something about it. That to me is pure evil. It speaks worlds about their priorities, their morals.

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Mike S's avatar

TC, in other words, she is just a normal American well within the normal American culture and popular enough to get elected in New York.

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Pam Peterson (West MA)'s avatar

Unfortunately, Mike, that's exactly right. She's no different than many "normal" folks who have hate in their hearts which puts money in their pockets.

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RefJim's avatar

The average American doesn't have a degree from Harvard. She does. She KNOWS better.

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Pam Peterson (West MA)'s avatar

Isn't it interesting that Harvard does not teach empathy/compassion. Several of those "Harvard grads" don't "know" (Cruz, Hawley etc)any better either.

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Ted's avatar

Harvard is a leadership school. Beware of charismatic people with an infatuation studying leadership.

Charisma can be confused with leadership, in that confusion, the narcist tumor can fester and become malignant. "People with inflated egos are drawn to theories that glorify leader dominance and charisma. (Adam Grant).

Great leaders view their roles as an act of service, not an avenue for authority and attention." (The Narcissistic Appeal of Leadership Theories." Steffens & Haslam)

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Ted's avatar

If Harvard and Yale wanted to show leadership, they should have revoked Cruz and Hawley's degrees on Jan 7th, at 8am.

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Keith Wheelock's avatar

TC Elise Stefanik emerged from obscurity only a few years ago and then scurried up the Trump ladder of sycophants to now be in the Valhalla of Trump, Cruz, Hawley, DeSantis, and other big chunks that have floated to the top.

McCarthy and Stefanik are at the top of the Republican Congressmen/women. Are you ready for an encore of the Clinton Benghazi hearing and excruciating examination of Hunter Biden’s lap top?

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desperado's avatar

the national party has an ironclad grip on its members. you can't make dog catcher without falling in line. on the other side of the aisle - 'i am not a member of any organized party; i'm a democrat.' will rogers.

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Keith Wheelock's avatar

Desperado I don’t consider MAGA ‘Republicans’ as part of a national party.Like food poisoning, it will be a painful experience under Trumpites take their lumps. Hopefully, the June open sessions of the House 1/6 committee and DOJ indictments will shake Jabba the Hutt’s hold over a disparate segment of the American public. Yuck McConnell is already singing a different turn as he endeavors to sleaze back into Senate Majority Leader.

My immediate focus is on the Senate in November. That would assure a fair process, would another Stench Court opening to arise. By 2024 our country should be flourishing and the naysayer MAGAs, like McCarthyites during the 1950s, will ooze off—some founded the John Birch Society which was the MAGA of its day.

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JDinTX's avatar

They are still around, called MAGAts now.

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Linda Mitchell, KCMO's avatar

She's the Ghastly Oligarch Party version of Kristen Sinema.

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Ellen's avatar

Yes. And I like your choice of descriptive words for the Putrid Putin Party.

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Mike S's avatar

It is interesting.

Elise Stefanik is a far right radical with clearly racist overtones to her words.

She is from New York and represents New Yorkers who voted for her.

She is not from Louisiana, or Alabama or Texas or Florida or Georgia.

She is just from America. I definitely am struggling today, more than most days.

More than 400 years after the first white person brought the first black person here as a slave (1619), America is still sponsoring terror on blacks and pretending that is just fine.

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TCinLA's avatar

The last time she was elected (2020) was before she had the opportunity to sell out and move on up. Her last voters didn't know this about her. If her district is at all "competitive," her eagerness to become a Professional Sell-Out may bite her.

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Arthur Viens's avatar

Mike, simply amazed that someone like Elise Stefanik could be elected to Congress from New York.

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Ellen's avatar

As an upstate NY resident from a district near Stefanik's, I'm not. Don't get me wrong, I know many people in her district who she clearly does NOT represent, people who have voted against her every time. But there are also many right-wingers who support Stefanik and the "big lie."

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Lynell(VA by way of MD&DC)'s avatar

"They go way back, some as far back as 1619." Nice zinger, Carol.

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Gailee Walker Wells's avatar

Yes. So powerfully important.

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JDinTX's avatar

The repubs love Goebbels favorite ploy, accuse the others of what you do.

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Ted's avatar

"Schizo Fascism"

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Kim's avatar

The lies are getting more and more brazen. These people will say anything do keep their party in power. They are the ones with the guns. Nothing scarier than an angry white male with a gun. And Stefanik knows that well.

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Christine (FL)'s avatar

Bam, Carol. Thank you. Let us not bury that year, Republicans…1619. Better polish up on some real history, Elise Stefanik. Not “politicizing” it is about the stupidest blah blah comeback she could have come up with. The willful ignorance plays so well for her. Not.

Salud, Carol C. United!

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Ellen's avatar

Another stupid comeback as reported by our local independent newspaper: "Stefanik denies supporting the great replacement theory, according to Alex deGrasse, a senior adviser to the congresswoman. In response to The Daily Gazette’s request for a phone interview with Stefanik, DeGrasse sent a prewritten statement calling members of the press 'groveling hacks.'” What is he, 3 years old, calling people names?!?

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Terry Preshaw's avatar

It's a page from NRA playbook after any shooting - "this is a time to be mourning, not politicizing".

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JDinTX's avatar

Maybe there wouldn’t be so much mourning if we did some politicizing..

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Nomi Lubin's avatar

" Black Americans are regular Americans. By the way, they are Legacy Americans, too, Tucker Carlson. They go way back, some as far back as 1619." Amen, Carol.

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Michele's avatar

Elise is a hypocrite of the highest order and a large part of the problem. May she burn in hell.

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AshleyR TN's avatar

The Union had an initiative to contact that monster’s office. I relished my acerbic voicemail for that hateful scum.

Here’s her office number:

(202) 225-4611

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