It won't surprise me if the Proud Boys, et. al. won't be "monitoring" polls in several states this November either. The fact that Ukraine's short history of independence from the Soviets hasn't qualified them to be acolytes is not a reason to paint them with the same brush as Putin. Our own history suggests that progress in a democracy i…
It won't surprise me if the Proud Boys, et. al. won't be "monitoring" polls in several states this November either. The fact that Ukraine's short history of independence from the Soviets hasn't qualified them to be acolytes is not a reason to paint them with the same brush as Putin. Our own history suggests that progress in a democracy is no fairy tale; it's more like 2 steps forward, 1 step back, sometimes with decades between steps forward. Intent matters; those who participated in Ukraine's revolution in 2014 demonstrated their intent, which is still playing out today, just as our revolution 230 some-odd years ago is also still playing out today. The West is lining up behind an ideal that was clearly demonstrated and is currently defended at cost of many lives and despite massive destruction by Russia. Focus all you wish on what's imperfect about them, but also acknowledge that the biggest thug in the neighborhood is the one who invaded their country.
The West has re-colonized the South, and the genocidal IMF (based in Washington, D.C.) has enslaved Ukraine. Once again, from Davison Budhoo's 100-page resignation letter from the IMF:
"To me resignation is a priceless liberation, for with it I have taken the first big step to that place where I may hope to wash my hands of what in my mind’s eye is the blood of millions of poor and starving peoples. Mr. Camdessus, the blood is so much, you know, it runs in rivers."
"The charges that I make are not light charges - they are charges that touch at the very heart of western society and western morality and post-war inter-governmental institutionalism that have degenerated into fake and sham under the pretext of establishing and maintaining international economic order and global efficiency."
"Will the world be content merely to brand our institution as among the most insidious enemies of humankind? Will our fellowmen condemn us thus and let the matter rest? Or will the heirs of those whom we have dismembered in our own peculiar Holocaust clamor for another Nuremberg?
"I don’t mind telling you that this matter has haunted me; it has haunted me particularly over the past five years. It has haunted me because I know that if I am tried I will be found guilty, very guilty, without extenuating circumstance."
"In guilt and self-realization of my own worthlessness as a human being, what I would like to do most of all is to so propel myself that I can get the man-in-the-street of North and South and East and West and First and Second and Third and Fourth and All Other Worlds to take an interest in what is happening to his single planet, his single habitat, because our institution was allowed to evolve in a particular way in late twentieth century international society, and allowed to become the supra-national authority that controls the day-to-day lives of hundreds of millions of people everywhere."
"We get away with our works of Dracula hiding behind the mask of Superior Technocracy and a Greater Wisdom striving for “financial balance” and “structural adjustment” in the Third World."
"And so it goes on and on and on. And nothing changes in the developing world except more death and destitution for the people in the slums, and more power for the Fund. And with the passing of every meeting our staff becomes even more reinvigorated; they wield a sharper and more bloodied tool; an even more terrifying Executor’s Axe stand poised for service everywhere in the South. And the children scream, Sir; my God, how they scream!"
(Budhoo is referring here to the incessant screaming of starving infants. When they stop screaming, you know that death is near.)
I strongly disagreed, and was inclined to not get into it. The 2014 coup/revolution wouldn't have been successful without the thug muscle of hard-core neo-Nazis. And then the neo-Nazis were put in charge of security -- Ministry of the Interior. The perpetrators of the Odessa Barbecue were never punished:
It won't surprise me if the Proud Boys, et. al. won't be "monitoring" polls in several states this November either. The fact that Ukraine's short history of independence from the Soviets hasn't qualified them to be acolytes is not a reason to paint them with the same brush as Putin. Our own history suggests that progress in a democracy is no fairy tale; it's more like 2 steps forward, 1 step back, sometimes with decades between steps forward. Intent matters; those who participated in Ukraine's revolution in 2014 demonstrated their intent, which is still playing out today, just as our revolution 230 some-odd years ago is also still playing out today. The West is lining up behind an ideal that was clearly demonstrated and is currently defended at cost of many lives and despite massive destruction by Russia. Focus all you wish on what's imperfect about them, but also acknowledge that the biggest thug in the neighborhood is the one who invaded their country.
The West has re-colonized the South, and the genocidal IMF (based in Washington, D.C.) has enslaved Ukraine. Once again, from Davison Budhoo's 100-page resignation letter from the IMF:
"To me resignation is a priceless liberation, for with it I have taken the first big step to that place where I may hope to wash my hands of what in my mind’s eye is the blood of millions of poor and starving peoples. Mr. Camdessus, the blood is so much, you know, it runs in rivers."
"The charges that I make are not light charges - they are charges that touch at the very heart of western society and western morality and post-war inter-governmental institutionalism that have degenerated into fake and sham under the pretext of establishing and maintaining international economic order and global efficiency."
"Will the world be content merely to brand our institution as among the most insidious enemies of humankind? Will our fellowmen condemn us thus and let the matter rest? Or will the heirs of those whom we have dismembered in our own peculiar Holocaust clamor for another Nuremberg?
"I don’t mind telling you that this matter has haunted me; it has haunted me particularly over the past five years. It has haunted me because I know that if I am tried I will be found guilty, very guilty, without extenuating circumstance."
"In guilt and self-realization of my own worthlessness as a human being, what I would like to do most of all is to so propel myself that I can get the man-in-the-street of North and South and East and West and First and Second and Third and Fourth and All Other Worlds to take an interest in what is happening to his single planet, his single habitat, because our institution was allowed to evolve in a particular way in late twentieth century international society, and allowed to become the supra-national authority that controls the day-to-day lives of hundreds of millions of people everywhere."
"We get away with our works of Dracula hiding behind the mask of Superior Technocracy and a Greater Wisdom striving for “financial balance” and “structural adjustment” in the Third World."
"And so it goes on and on and on. And nothing changes in the developing world except more death and destitution for the people in the slums, and more power for the Fund. And with the passing of every meeting our staff becomes even more reinvigorated; they wield a sharper and more bloodied tool; an even more terrifying Executor’s Axe stand poised for service everywhere in the South. And the children scream, Sir; my God, how they scream!"
(Budhoo is referring here to the incessant screaming of starving infants. When they stop screaming, you know that death is near.)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oJzvpfFzIKu76oE1CkzZlarRiVpYIggFMFzSt6OgHx0/mobilebasic"
uhhh...what's your point?
I could say the say the same thing about your blather about the Proud Boys.
I'm sad you didn't get the point...
I strongly disagreed, and was inclined to not get into it. The 2014 coup/revolution wouldn't have been successful without the thug muscle of hard-core neo-Nazis. And then the neo-Nazis were put in charge of security -- Ministry of the Interior. The perpetrators of the Odessa Barbecue were never punished:
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https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/