Trump exploiting what happened in Waco 30 years ago to stir up right-wing terrorist groups — groups itching to take up arms against the government — shows his desperation is off the charts. Imagine his reaction when he's actually indicted, and not just in the Stormy Daniels case. We're in the midst of an epic drama, and he's already beha…
Trump exploiting what happened in Waco 30 years ago to stir up right-wing terrorist groups — groups itching to take up arms against the government — shows his desperation is off the charts. Imagine his reaction when he's actually indicted, and not just in the Stormy Daniels case. We're in the midst of an epic drama, and he's already behaving like a raving lunatic. I wouldn't want to be working on the clean-up crew at Mar-a-Lago.
Michael, Watch the Netflix documentary series (short) “Waco” which is visually dramatic and chilling. David Kouresh was a cult lunatic, who had sex with young girls and was a creep of the depths of depravity. All in the name of Christ. That is who Dump is going to glorify this weekend. The sickness of the Branch Davidians is so similar to today’s extremists you will be shocked. They lived by the gun and died by the gun. The missteps of the ATF, FBI and Feds is also shocking, but when you stock weapons of a small army with millions of rounds of ammunition you are drawing that violent energy to yourself. That is what happened. Have a good weekend. We are in this together!
No offense, I was closer than comfortable, a horribly painful time. Seems the past lurks around us all… traveling down I-35, I always avoid Waco. Chump’s visit is a call to arms, only the cult “Nazi’s” will show.
It was indeed a very upsetting thing. I was far from it. I'm finding out more about it now and it seems that the government stepped right into the role that had been designed for it, and screwed up terribly. It disturbs me very much that those heavily armed men went to that compound and began shooting into a building with people in it, as much as the bombing of the MOVE cult in Philadelphia only 8 years before does. Move was also a Christian group, armed, non-conforming to the wider world's standards
Molly Ivins wrote extensively about this...her take on Koresh and the whole scenario was slightly different. Did she not know about the sex with young girls bit?
Or, perhaps he is following a script given to him by some folks who are, likely, quite a bit more strategic, intelligent and coherent than him.
It is not impossible, at all, for Trump, or another Demigod, to put all this violence talk + Fox News propaganda together and pull off the destruction of our government and the subjugation of the American people to corporate interests and guys like Peter Thiel.
He might be desperate. But, there are other signs that he is not. Trump is aware that he has pulled off every last stunt successfully, in his life, including January 6th to some degree. With the help of Fox News and other Republicans, half of America believes that January 6th was a picnic on the lawn of the US Capitol.
All Trump needs, Michael, is for 40% or so of America to buy into his narrative. Which, is close to the % that have done so.
Your first paragraph is prescient. What is in the depths of this darkest of hearts when he posts the baseball bat image or writes of “death and destruction”? His base of millions was the center of his amour propre since he drew it to him. He reveled in it virtually non-stop - “your favorite President”, “We win so much you’re going to get tired of winning”.
When his first call to arms buttressing the phony Tuesday indictment elicited a yawn, it seems likely his hurt knew few bounds. This week he went full nuclear in a desperate attempt to regain attention and those fleeting moments of inner glow.
Millions of members of his base see this intuitively, and they are gently trying to extricate themselves from his grasp. For it’s their self-worth as well that is taking a hard beating. They invested God knows how much money in him, but much more importantly their full throated enthusiasm and love. He was the repository of all their pent-up anger - the default emotion in America today.
Trump will soak the country in threats until he is in a position where he can no longer reach it. The danger to watch for is not the power of crowds to become a mob as on January 6. It lies in the undying fealty of the lunatic fringe who are, I am convinced, plotting as I write this to punish America in violent and asymmetrical ways. This seven year itch will not end quietly. These times are deeply worrying.
Trump associating himself with Waco is a vile, desperate move. We can only hope that Trump gives a war and nobody shows up.
Part of the blame goes to the DOJ. Yesterday Elie Honig described Merrick Garland as “barely sentient” in his first two years. That is harsh but not unmerited. Jack Smith is now on a mad dash to indict Trump before he gains traction in his Presidential run and once again shields himself from the short arm of the law. There should have been no need for this.
Trump exploiting what happened in Waco 30 years ago to stir up right-wing terrorist groups — groups itching to take up arms against the government — shows his desperation is off the charts. Imagine his reaction when he's actually indicted, and not just in the Stormy Daniels case. We're in the midst of an epic drama, and he's already behaving like a raving lunatic. I wouldn't want to be working on the clean-up crew at Mar-a-Lago.
For more details about the history of what happened in the feds standoff with the Branch Davidian cult in Waco and the implications of Trump's latest move, read "Why Waco," today's newsletter from former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance. It's chilling. https://open.substack.com/pub/joycevance/p/why-waco?r=57fmo&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Michael, Watch the Netflix documentary series (short) “Waco” which is visually dramatic and chilling. David Kouresh was a cult lunatic, who had sex with young girls and was a creep of the depths of depravity. All in the name of Christ. That is who Dump is going to glorify this weekend. The sickness of the Branch Davidians is so similar to today’s extremists you will be shocked. They lived by the gun and died by the gun. The missteps of the ATF, FBI and Feds is also shocking, but when you stock weapons of a small army with millions of rounds of ammunition you are drawing that violent energy to yourself. That is what happened. Have a good weekend. We are in this together!
I don't think the story of what happened in Waco Texas in 1993 is so cut-and-dried.
I remember every horrible detail. There is no excuse for excusing the cult nuts.
So do I. I think it happened on my birthday.
So you were there? Apologies if I offended you by my comment.
No offense, I was closer than comfortable, a horribly painful time. Seems the past lurks around us all… traveling down I-35, I always avoid Waco. Chump’s visit is a call to arms, only the cult “Nazi’s” will show.
It was indeed a very upsetting thing. I was far from it. I'm finding out more about it now and it seems that the government stepped right into the role that had been designed for it, and screwed up terribly. It disturbs me very much that those heavily armed men went to that compound and began shooting into a building with people in it, as much as the bombing of the MOVE cult in Philadelphia only 8 years before does. Move was also a Christian group, armed, non-conforming to the wider world's standards
Molly Ivins wrote extensively about this...her take on Koresh and the whole scenario was slightly different. Did she not know about the sex with young girls bit?
David Koresh was very mentally ill. The gun nut authorities escalated that situation in a totally incompetent manner. Ugh.
"shows his desperation is off the charts"
Perhaps.
Or, perhaps he is following a script given to him by some folks who are, likely, quite a bit more strategic, intelligent and coherent than him.
It is not impossible, at all, for Trump, or another Demigod, to put all this violence talk + Fox News propaganda together and pull off the destruction of our government and the subjugation of the American people to corporate interests and guys like Peter Thiel.
He might be desperate. But, there are other signs that he is not. Trump is aware that he has pulled off every last stunt successfully, in his life, including January 6th to some degree. With the help of Fox News and other Republicans, half of America believes that January 6th was a picnic on the lawn of the US Capitol.
All Trump needs, Michael, is for 40% or so of America to buy into his narrative. Which, is close to the % that have done so.
Trump keeps making money off this circus. Pretty much the only thing he cares about, really.
Watch out for flying ketchup!
Your first paragraph is prescient. What is in the depths of this darkest of hearts when he posts the baseball bat image or writes of “death and destruction”? His base of millions was the center of his amour propre since he drew it to him. He reveled in it virtually non-stop - “your favorite President”, “We win so much you’re going to get tired of winning”.
When his first call to arms buttressing the phony Tuesday indictment elicited a yawn, it seems likely his hurt knew few bounds. This week he went full nuclear in a desperate attempt to regain attention and those fleeting moments of inner glow.
Millions of members of his base see this intuitively, and they are gently trying to extricate themselves from his grasp. For it’s their self-worth as well that is taking a hard beating. They invested God knows how much money in him, but much more importantly their full throated enthusiasm and love. He was the repository of all their pent-up anger - the default emotion in America today.
Trump will soak the country in threats until he is in a position where he can no longer reach it. The danger to watch for is not the power of crowds to become a mob as on January 6. It lies in the undying fealty of the lunatic fringe who are, I am convinced, plotting as I write this to punish America in violent and asymmetrical ways. This seven year itch will not end quietly. These times are deeply worrying.
Trump associating himself with Waco is a vile, desperate move. We can only hope that Trump gives a war and nobody shows up.
Part of the blame goes to the DOJ. Yesterday Elie Honig described Merrick Garland as “barely sentient” in his first two years. That is harsh but not unmerited. Jack Smith is now on a mad dash to indict Trump before he gains traction in his Presidential run and once again shields himself from the short arm of the law. There should have been no need for this.
Excellent summary – thanks for sharing it.
Agreed, Michael. Joyce did a fantastic job on her piece today. Chilling!
Oh. Shared. Thank You.
Thank you for sharing that link.