“Mr. Meadows has maintained a commitment to tell the truth where he has a legal obligation to do so.” So, basically his lawyer is saying that the only way Mr. Meadows is committed to telling the truth is when he is under oath. Once again, someone is saying the quiet parts out loud.
I wonder if Meadows learned to lie from TFG, or if he was…
“Mr. Meadows has maintained a commitment to tell the truth where he has a legal obligation to do so.” So, basically his lawyer is saying that the only way Mr. Meadows is committed to telling the truth is when he is under oath. Once again, someone is saying the quiet parts out loud.
I wonder if Meadows learned to lie from TFG, or if he was already equipped for the job, having seen how far his predecessors strayed from the truth in the commission of their duties.
American politicians love to say "God Bless America". Seems to me, as an outsider from the land Down Under, that it should be "God Help America, please!"
The sooner we realize that a god will not bless or help America with the problems we, ourselves, created -the sooner we will come together to solve those problems ourselves, together. We have no one to blame, or credit, but ourselves.
I don't think of the little heart symbol as a "like"; I think of the " heart symbol ping" as a signal to all of the Community that the comments is worth readingto to help the conversation go deeper.
A "Spot On" reply is a public reward for cognitive reasoning, putting 3 or more facts together to make a sound conclusion while citing sources Just like HCR.
Peter understands that is actually America that is down under & in need of intervention if not divine.
I accept your belief that God doesn't exist. I, however, believe there is someone/something "out there" overseeing all that we do. Who knows, maybe God is karma and, if so, we've set ourselves up for karma to kick us in the ass.
and by the way, most of the well-loved sayings of Jesus probably weren't said by him either. All of the gospels and (other pseudepigraphia) were written between 70 and 110 c.e., give or take. Chances are that Jesus didn't say some, if not most, of the wisdom he is credited with. I wasn't there - like Marie Antoinette: wasn't there either.
Why are you people fighting each other about these silly trivialities? Save your ire for the Republicans! I get so tired of all this jockeying for position and I'm sure Marie and Jesus are sick of it too.
Sad truth Peter; our version of 'capitalism' has been threatening to consume us for decades now. Truth can't be hidden forever though, despite the best efforts to keep it concealed by those who profited past, present, and future. I've always thought that to be the ugly truth underpinning all that's been brewing here.
HCR reports today: "One of his lawyers refused to comment but told the New York Times reporters that “Mr. Meadows has maintained a commitment to tell the truth where he has a legal obligation to do so.” In other words, he probably claimed the Fifth Amendment and Attorney-client privilege at times, if not all. His "testimony" may have been worthless.
Yep; out the window along with any construction solutions, honor, integrity. All those petty trivialities that used to count for something amongst those of the gop flavor of kool-aid.
When he was first in Congress, he worked to get Boehner ousted as Speaker, lied when it failed, and then lied about supporting Boehner before voting to oust him
I recall during Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony before the J6 committee, she painted a picture of a man (Meadows) who seemed to her to be out of touch with reality while she was trying to convince him of their boss' (45's) traitor-like actions.
Cognitive dissonance? Or a cognitive breakdown? How do these people sleep at night? How do they maintain relationships with their families knowing how far off the deep end their actions have penetrated decency?
Ted, in Meadows' case, remember that he hosted a 70-guest indoor wedding for his daughter in late 2020, before vaccines were available. Apparently, his family assumed that their entitled status (and God) would protect them - damn everyone else.
Once we have Jack Smith' "Classified Document" or "Mar-a-Lago" charging allegations revealed at the Arraignment, the nation will understand the scope & detail of Jack Smith's prosecutorial work. Although Meadows was not present at the 7/20/21 Bedminster Meeting with tfg & 2 of Meadows' biographers, I expect some new facts on the Iran War Plan document tfg was waving around that is still missing to this day. Those charging counts are likely sourced from General Milley's 4 intense concerns in the weeks after Biden's election to J6. Want to have an impact on a Jury? Then put a gruff, hard nosed National Security Joint Chief (Milley) on the stand in uniform to talk about his chats with Meadows & tfg.
Aka: "45", the former President, "Co- conspirator No:1, the Malignant Narcissist, the Orange Blob, the Dorian Grey of Mar-a-Lago & Defendant, Donald J. Trump.
Or a new one yesterday from former AG, Bill Barr: "Mirror Hog".
TFG is a "polite" way to refer to someone we all would rather not name. I suspect most people here would prefer never to hear from, see or think about tfg again, but unfortunately he just won't go away.
As Bryan graciously shares, it's the kindest, most GP moniker we could hang on the former occupant of our White House - #45. We all have many alternate monikers for it, but we highly respect our hostess here Dr. Richardson. As such, we try hard to keep ourselves PG rated. And thank you Bryan...
Tfg. has a "45" Bar he opened in his NY Building wherein he used an empty classified document folder as poster for folks paying $25 a drink; water is extra.
Understand, that is one of the reasons a trial attorney takes a witness's deposition BEFORE a trial in Court. I once planned to call a local SF priest as the first trial witness in a real estate case, but the case settled.
Watch Gore Vidal and William F. Buckley Jr. trade insults on live television.
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By Walker Caplan
June 15, 2021, 1:04pm
On this day in 2008, in an interview with The New York Times, when asked to comment on conservative commentator William F. Buckley, Jr.’s passing, the legendary Gore Vidal said that “hell is bound to be a livelier place, as he joins forever those whom he served in life, applauding their prejudices and fanning their hatred.”
Ouch. Of course, Vidal was known for his witty insults, even when his friends were the targets—but this one has more bite to it, as it follows years of impassioned political rivalry. It started in 1968, when ABC News sought to boost their flagging ratings through flashy programming; they hired Vidal, a leftist provocateur, to regularly debate Buckley, founder and editor of National review and host of “Firing Line.”
The debates were filled with ad-hominem style as well as substance. Vidal told Buckley that he inspired Vidal’s character Myra Breckinridge—“passionate and irrelevant”. Buckley revealed a note from the newly deceased Robert F. Kennedy suggesting Vidal be deported to Vietnam; Vidal, looking at the upward-slanted handwriting, called it a “sign of a manic-depressive.” In the below clip, Vidal called Buckley Jr. a “crypto-Nazi”; Buckley called Vidal a “queer “and threatened to “sock [him] in the goddamn face”.
Watching the clip, it’s easy to see it as a precursor to panel shows, now a staple of political television; there are also flickers of the sensationalism of more recent election cycles. But it’s also a pleasant throwback, to when intellectuals were able to get together and debate on television and the network simply televised it—as opposed to the siloed, distorted media of today.
Meadows lied about his residence in North Carolina. The trailer address he swore was his residence was not his. He was not a legal resident of North Carolina qualified to vote there. His residence was DC. How’s that’s work for being Chief of Staff claiming election fraud by the opposition? The guy is a known liar, a horrible person with no integrity. Exactly what TFG looks for as his advisors. The only reward system for these people is lie, cheat, and steal.
Mary, he is just like Orange Julius and nearly everyone else in 45's entourage. TFG had the opportunity to testify, both in the Mueller investigation and in the rape case versus E. Jean Carroll, and in both he was silent and/or absent. Why? He's generally incapable of telling the truth. The only time you can get that menace to clam up is under oath, if the option of invoking the fifth is available, because his flapping gums regularly spew a torrent of lies.
“Mr. Meadows has maintained a commitment to tell the truth where he has a legal obligation to do so.” So, basically his lawyer is saying that the only way Mr. Meadows is committed to telling the truth is when he is under oath. Once again, someone is saying the quiet parts out loud.
I wonder if Meadows learned to lie from TFG, or if he was already equipped for the job, having seen how far his predecessors strayed from the truth in the commission of their duties.
American politicians love to say "God Bless America". Seems to me, as an outsider from the land Down Under, that it should be "God Help America, please!"
The sooner we realize that a god will not bless or help America with the problems we, ourselves, created -the sooner we will come together to solve those problems ourselves, together. We have no one to blame, or credit, but ourselves.
Only 11 likes including mine. Compared to 200 for Peter Radon -also including mine, ???????????????????????????????????????????????/////
L&B&L
17 now!
Now up to 40!
I don't think of the little heart symbol as a "like"; I think of the " heart symbol ping" as a signal to all of the Community that the comments is worth readingto to help the conversation go deeper.
A "Spot On" reply is a public reward for cognitive reasoning, putting 3 or more facts together to make a sound conclusion while citing sources Just like HCR.
Peter understands that is actually America that is down under & in need of intervention if not divine.
Another sad truth Michael. See above my comments to Peter Radan. ↑
God has blessed America but that might not last much longer as He tires of dealing with the ungrateful brats some of us have become. :(
God doesn't exist, so how do we know what "he" tires of?
Ironically, the countries where the most religious societies live tend to be the poorest and most chaotic.
I accept your belief that God doesn't exist. I, however, believe there is someone/something "out there" overseeing all that we do. Who knows, maybe God is karma and, if so, we've set ourselves up for karma to kick us in the ass.
Thank you, Peter, Great laugh.
Marie Antoinette's silly epithet, "let them eat cake," comes to mind.
She didn’t say it.
It doesn't matter - or were you there?
and by the way, most of the well-loved sayings of Jesus probably weren't said by him either. All of the gospels and (other pseudepigraphia) were written between 70 and 110 c.e., give or take. Chances are that Jesus didn't say some, if not most, of the wisdom he is credited with. I wasn't there - like Marie Antoinette: wasn't there either.
Why are you people fighting each other about these silly trivialities? Save your ire for the Republicans! I get so tired of all this jockeying for position and I'm sure Marie and Jesus are sick of it too.
Peace
Pseudepigraphia is an excellent word! I wrote it down and will attempt to use it in a sentence soon. Thank you.
lol
Get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
I don’t enjoy being corrected, but I like inaccuracy less.
I don't like being corrected.
In other words, a pompous petulant ass.
I got up on the right side of the bed. Thanks for your kind words.
LOL
good for you, Zella. Whoever takes these silly sayings as pure gospel...
well, it doesn't matter.
Sad truth Peter; our version of 'capitalism' has been threatening to consume us for decades now. Truth can't be hidden forever though, despite the best efforts to keep it concealed by those who profited past, present, and future. I've always thought that to be the ugly truth underpinning all that's been brewing here.
Amen!
What about the moral obligation that Meadow has to testify? Oh, silly me, basic morality is a foreign concept in Republican circles.
Michael Moral Meadows is an oxymoron, with emphasis on ox and moron..
Same words crossed my mind. Verbatim. Except I like oxen so I went with moron.
A winner !
Sending you a morning hug! Great statement too!
LOL. First smile of the am.
lol - touche Keith ~
HCR reports today: "One of his lawyers refused to comment but told the New York Times reporters that “Mr. Meadows has maintained a commitment to tell the truth where he has a legal obligation to do so.” In other words, he probably claimed the Fifth Amendment and Attorney-client privilege at times, if not all. His "testimony" may have been worthless.
When obligated? Otherwise BS.
If Meadows took that route, he's going to prison for longer than he might otherwise if, as expected, he cut a deal.
I hope that you are right.
And the PGA
I’m disgusted.
I don't watch golf and if I did, I would not be watching it anymore. Money.
Yep; out the window along with any construction solutions, honor, integrity. All those petty trivialities that used to count for something amongst those of the gop flavor of kool-aid.
He committed voter fraud.
When he was first in Congress, he worked to get Boehner ousted as Speaker, lied when it failed, and then lied about supporting Boehner before voting to oust him
Boehner thought he was schizoid.
Meadows was a liar before Trump ever showed up.
Trump helped him fine tune his lying and for that he has always been grateful.
Awesome memory Bridget !
Yep, so basically, can we expect Meadows to be truthful? It depends.
I recall during Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony before the J6 committee, she painted a picture of a man (Meadows) who seemed to her to be out of touch with reality while she was trying to convince him of their boss' (45's) traitor-like actions.
Cognitive dissonance? Or a cognitive breakdown? How do these people sleep at night? How do they maintain relationships with their families knowing how far off the deep end their actions have penetrated decency?
Ted, in Meadows' case, remember that he hosted a 70-guest indoor wedding for his daughter in late 2020, before vaccines were available. Apparently, his family assumed that their entitled status (and God) would protect them - damn everyone else.
Once we have Jack Smith' "Classified Document" or "Mar-a-Lago" charging allegations revealed at the Arraignment, the nation will understand the scope & detail of Jack Smith's prosecutorial work. Although Meadows was not present at the 7/20/21 Bedminster Meeting with tfg & 2 of Meadows' biographers, I expect some new facts on the Iran War Plan document tfg was waving around that is still missing to this day. Those charging counts are likely sourced from General Milley's 4 intense concerns in the weeks after Biden's election to J6. Want to have an impact on a Jury? Then put a gruff, hard nosed National Security Joint Chief (Milley) on the stand in uniform to talk about his chats with Meadows & tfg.
Forgive me, who is TFG?
No worries ...
The (T) Former (F) Guy (G) = tfg.
Aka: "45", the former President, "Co- conspirator No:1, the Malignant Narcissist, the Orange Blob, the Dorian Grey of Mar-a-Lago & Defendant, Donald J. Trump.
Or a new one yesterday from former AG, Bill Barr: "Mirror Hog".
I prefer what someone (here I think?) suggested: The Indicted One.
You left out one of my faves - "Cheeto Jesus"
(though it has the unfortunate effect of being defamatory to both Cheetos and Jesus)
TFG is a "polite" way to refer to someone we all would rather not name. I suspect most people here would prefer never to hear from, see or think about tfg again, but unfortunately he just won't go away.
Abbreviation for "the former guy", i.e. trump.
Ah, it has an air. Quite poetic as well. ;)
Lol Jennifer ! Yes, 'it' and all of his acolytes have 'airs' about them - mostly foul. The poetic justice is what we all await.
As Bryan graciously shares, it's the kindest, most GP moniker we could hang on the former occupant of our White House - #45. We all have many alternate monikers for it, but we highly respect our hostess here Dr. Richardson. As such, we try hard to keep ourselves PG rated. And thank you Bryan...
Tfg. has a "45" Bar he opened in his NY Building wherein he used an empty classified document folder as poster for folks paying $25 a drink; water is extra.
Is that true Bryan - that bar, etc., actually exist - and there is evidence ? I don't doubt it in the least !
not a fan of milley's! the park walk with trump!
Miley was caught off-guard in the moment, later realized what a mistake he’d made and publicly expressed his regrets.
Understand, that is one of the reasons a trial attorney takes a witness's deposition BEFORE a trial in Court. I once planned to call a local SF priest as the first trial witness in a real estate case, but the case settled.
Only when forced . . .
Or when confronted with evidence that makes it difficult to lie.
or could send him to Supermax if he got caught.
Mary, he's a Christofascist. Well established b4 Dump.
Love your allusion to Vidal's comment on Buckley ;-)
?
"Vidal's comment on Buckley" ? Not familiar Susan... enlighten me please.
Watch Gore Vidal and William F. Buckley Jr. trade insults on live television.
Avatar
By Walker Caplan
June 15, 2021, 1:04pm
On this day in 2008, in an interview with The New York Times, when asked to comment on conservative commentator William F. Buckley, Jr.’s passing, the legendary Gore Vidal said that “hell is bound to be a livelier place, as he joins forever those whom he served in life, applauding their prejudices and fanning their hatred.”
Ouch. Of course, Vidal was known for his witty insults, even when his friends were the targets—but this one has more bite to it, as it follows years of impassioned political rivalry. It started in 1968, when ABC News sought to boost their flagging ratings through flashy programming; they hired Vidal, a leftist provocateur, to regularly debate Buckley, founder and editor of National review and host of “Firing Line.”
The debates were filled with ad-hominem style as well as substance. Vidal told Buckley that he inspired Vidal’s character Myra Breckinridge—“passionate and irrelevant”. Buckley revealed a note from the newly deceased Robert F. Kennedy suggesting Vidal be deported to Vietnam; Vidal, looking at the upward-slanted handwriting, called it a “sign of a manic-depressive.” In the below clip, Vidal called Buckley Jr. a “crypto-Nazi”; Buckley called Vidal a “queer “and threatened to “sock [him] in the goddamn face”.
Watching the clip, it’s easy to see it as a precursor to panel shows, now a staple of political television; there are also flickers of the sensationalism of more recent election cycles. But it’s also a pleasant throwback, to when intellectuals were able to get together and debate on television and the network simply televised it—as opposed to the siloed, distorted media of today.
Thank you; I'd forgotten the particulars. Lol.. Thanks Liz !
Meadows lied about his residence in North Carolina. The trailer address he swore was his residence was not his. He was not a legal resident of North Carolina qualified to vote there. His residence was DC. How’s that’s work for being Chief of Staff claiming election fraud by the opposition? The guy is a known liar, a horrible person with no integrity. Exactly what TFG looks for as his advisors. The only reward system for these people is lie, cheat, and steal.
Mary Testifying under oath with a Fifth is an oaf’s oath.
Mary, he is just like Orange Julius and nearly everyone else in 45's entourage. TFG had the opportunity to testify, both in the Mueller investigation and in the rape case versus E. Jean Carroll, and in both he was silent and/or absent. Why? He's generally incapable of telling the truth. The only time you can get that menace to clam up is under oath, if the option of invoking the fifth is available, because his flapping gums regularly spew a torrent of lies.
They no doubt had tfg mindset...and worshiped their lord and savior.
nah, truth is a 4 letter word to the sniveling markie mapo!