I would love to see TUMP be indicted, arrested, tried by the courts, and put in the worst prison in the entire Nation. I want him to get a fair sentence of '' Life without the possibility of parole'' in solitary confinement under the prison. With only rats and other vermin to keep him company. He deserves this after nearly destroying our nation and treasonous crimes he has committed not to mention all of the other criminal activity he has committed. I do not have time to go into all of his crimes as there are so many of them...
Me too, but at best, if he is indeed incarcerated, it will be a form not really all that uncomfortable. We will have to be satisfied with that. Michael Cohen served time, but not in a very heinous place. Fine. What bothers me much more is that his real crimes - the ones you speak to - the ruining of our countries political system of government, the destroying of trust in our leaders, the introduction of widespread and unadulterated corruption at the highest levels of our government, the irreparable damage to the USA's standing throughout the civilized world, all the people who died of Covid because he was too consumed by the economy to enact stricter controls, the furtherance of American inaction on climate change, all that will go unpunished except that he lost his bid at 4 more years. Instead he will get taken down by IMO lesser crimes (unless he gets seditious conspiracy of which he is obviously guilty). The rest - small potatoes in comparison.
The COVID thing is surely numerically and morally among the worst disasters in modern America. As a "wealthy", "educated" nation, we had the opportunity to minimize the death toll, and instead we (or at least the whole friggin' Republican Party behaved like shills for the virus lobby. I am reminded of the creepy scene in Kubrick's 2001 in which the sentient computer kills the dormant crew. It's was remote control, but still murder.
Even if he was incarcerated in a comfortable place it would be hellish for him if he wasn't allowed any social media. He's a true narcissistic psychopath, I believe, and unless he can get validation from outside himself, in his mind it's going to be like he doesn't exist.
HOW CAN DOJ POSSIBLY CHARGE ME, WHO DID NOTHING WRONG, WHEN NO OTHER PRESIDENTтАЩS WERE CHARGED, WHEN JOE BIDEN WONтАЩT BE CHARGED FOR ANYTHING, INCLUDING THE FACT THAT HE HAS 1,850 BOXES, MUCH OF IT CLASSIFIED, AND SOME DATING BACK TO HIS SENATE DAY WHEN EVEN DEMOCRAT SENATORS ARE SHOCKED. ALSO, PRESIDENT CLINTON HAD DOCUMENTS, AND WON IN COURT. CROOKED HILLARY DELETED 33,000 EMAILS, MANY CLASSIFIED, AND WASNтАЩT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING CHARGED! ONLY TRUMP - THE GREATEST WITCH HUNT OF ALL TIME!
And that sums up Trump's entire defense. 'Whataboutism' based on lies. Works well on right-wing media, not so well in court. He's doomed. Or we're doomed. Either way, we're going to live with his legacy for a long, long, time.
I love his defense, Steve. It's 'President Clinton', Trump writes and he's got a point there, doesn't he? What would Andy think? That's Andy Warhol. Wouldn't Andy just love him? Trump and his writings are works of art, Folk Art. It's primitive, but there's an audience out there, don't you think? No one represents Trump better than the man himself; no one else has his style; the French call it panache!
Thanks for the hearty laugh, Fern! тАЬpanacheтАЭ is relevant to tfg in both of its definitions. The most obvious is the second, but the first one applies to the guyтАЩs cartoonish, ridiculous hairstyle:
PANACHE, per the Merriam Webster Dictionary:
1.. an ornamental tuft (as of feathers) especially on a helmet
It's you and me, Rose, so far. We know how to see both sides of his badness and put the cheap-con act where he belongs, on the wall next to a can of Campbell's soup.
I think that Campbell's is a pretty poor excuse for soup, but I still would not want to see it suffer the indignity. Trump is full of sound and fury, but would have been ignored as a childish idiot had he not had pots of money. I suspect that a lot of people who have been raised with authoritarianism and been injured by it, cheer on his shameless misbehavior because (again due to his inheritance) he CAN get away with it, and has. Up until now anyway.
Hillary moving her communications, as US Secretary of State, outside of the .gov domain was intended to insure that future Freedom of Information Act requests would be denied since she was on her private domain not the .gov domain where the law is relevant.
Fortunately for Hillary, James Comey was head of the FBI and ruled that it was not illegal to consciously try to avoid future FOIA requests. Me? I would have ruled it is illegal.
We just cannot have government officials doing business on private domain name email accounts where the Russians can easily hack them, or the Chinese, or my own kids.
And, oh, I remember, the Russians DID hack her emails.
Yeah, I think that what Hillary did there was not nothing; and probably a grunt employee would have suffered official consequences for it. The election eve investigation announcement was weird and probably disastrous, certainly advantageous to Trump, though Trumps constant harping on it is beyond hypocritical. I also thought Bill Clinton's lies (not the dalliance, the lies) were a terrible presidential precedent.
Absolutely тАЬwhataboutismтАЭ. What is wrong with these people? They hang onto the words of this man like it was the Holy Bible. Even high schoolers know the basic points of discourse when you need to explain important issues; especially when the goal is to change minds. Deflection is top of list, along with Ad hominem arguments. The fact that this man did not disappear off the political spectrum after he lost in 2020 is mind boggling.
Especially in our ever more massive and complicated society where bad decisions seem to have less wiggle room to avoid disaster, I think critical thinking might rank with the "3Rs" as a survival tool. One afternoon is 5th or 6th grade (in the 1950s) my class was told of Nazi propaganda and classic logical fallacies. I got another brief dose in an elective class in High school. Yet how to determine what is real and what is BS or inadequately demonstrated should weave it's way though all basic education, along with challenges with which students practice and refine their skills. I don't think that is happening, the likes of Trump, DeSantis, or MTG would not stand a chance of election. Not that there would be no political conflicts, but a much reduced tolerance for lies in high places. Is one not to some degree dehumanized when being lied to, at least to the extent of the liars intent?
Well, the McCarthy Hearings were called "witch hunts" with good reason, but the "Republican" party has morphed into Witch Hunters Inc. "Justice" Alitio even claimed the authority of one from long ago.
Compare to the usual accuracy and eloquence of Lincoln. It is the fate of our society at stake here. More than one of my elementary school teachers told us that "anyone" could grow up to be president (dunno about blacks and women back then, but we've come a long way). I never suspected a total A-hole would make it, but then world history says otherwise. Now I know why a word like "kakistocracy" (governance by the worst) is in the dictionary.
Dump is shaking in his boots. Good. Thank you, Heather, for clarifying this ongoing, history-making news. I am definitely on indictment watch....
I would love to see TUMP be indicted, arrested, tried by the courts, and put in the worst prison in the entire Nation. I want him to get a fair sentence of '' Life without the possibility of parole'' in solitary confinement under the prison. With only rats and other vermin to keep him company. He deserves this after nearly destroying our nation and treasonous crimes he has committed not to mention all of the other criminal activity he has committed. I do not have time to go into all of his crimes as there are so many of them...
Me too, but at best, if he is indeed incarcerated, it will be a form not really all that uncomfortable. We will have to be satisfied with that. Michael Cohen served time, but not in a very heinous place. Fine. What bothers me much more is that his real crimes - the ones you speak to - the ruining of our countries political system of government, the destroying of trust in our leaders, the introduction of widespread and unadulterated corruption at the highest levels of our government, the irreparable damage to the USA's standing throughout the civilized world, all the people who died of Covid because he was too consumed by the economy to enact stricter controls, the furtherance of American inaction on climate change, all that will go unpunished except that he lost his bid at 4 more years. Instead he will get taken down by IMO lesser crimes (unless he gets seditious conspiracy of which he is obviously guilty). The rest - small potatoes in comparison.
The COVID thing is surely numerically and morally among the worst disasters in modern America. As a "wealthy", "educated" nation, we had the opportunity to minimize the death toll, and instead we (or at least the whole friggin' Republican Party behaved like shills for the virus lobby. I am reminded of the creepy scene in Kubrick's 2001 in which the sentient computer kills the dormant crew. It's was remote control, but still murder.
Even if he was incarcerated in a comfortable place it would be hellish for him if he wasn't allowed any social media. He's a true narcissistic psychopath, I believe, and unless he can get validation from outside himself, in his mind it's going to be like he doesn't exist.
тАЬтАж.all the people who died of Covid because he was too consumed by the economy to enact stricter controlsтАжтАЭ
No it was his vanity that prevented him from enacting stricter controls. He felt doing so would тАШmake him look badтАЩ. He is such a baby!
Thanks for this. Trying to turn TFG into some sort of victim would, in the words of my brother in law, тАЬmake a maggot puke.тАЭ
It's cheesy, but the image is vivid and somehow apropos.
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HOW CAN DOJ POSSIBLY CHARGE ME, WHO DID NOTHING WRONG, WHEN NO OTHER PRESIDENTтАЩS WERE CHARGED, WHEN JOE BIDEN WONтАЩT BE CHARGED FOR ANYTHING, INCLUDING THE FACT THAT HE HAS 1,850 BOXES, MUCH OF IT CLASSIFIED, AND SOME DATING BACK TO HIS SENATE DAY WHEN EVEN DEMOCRAT SENATORS ARE SHOCKED. ALSO, PRESIDENT CLINTON HAD DOCUMENTS, AND WON IN COURT. CROOKED HILLARY DELETED 33,000 EMAILS, MANY CLASSIFIED, AND WASNтАЩT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING CHARGED! ONLY TRUMP - THE GREATEST WITCH HUNT OF ALL TIME!
And that sums up Trump's entire defense. 'Whataboutism' based on lies. Works well on right-wing media, not so well in court. He's doomed. Or we're doomed. Either way, we're going to live with his legacy for a long, long, time.
I love his defense, Steve. It's 'President Clinton', Trump writes and he's got a point there, doesn't he? What would Andy think? That's Andy Warhol. Wouldn't Andy just love him? Trump and his writings are works of art, Folk Art. It's primitive, but there's an audience out there, don't you think? No one represents Trump better than the man himself; no one else has his style; the French call it panache!
Thanks for the hearty laugh, Fern! тАЬpanacheтАЭ is relevant to tfg in both of its definitions. The most obvious is the second, but the first one applies to the guyтАЩs cartoonish, ridiculous hairstyle:
PANACHE, per the Merriam Webster Dictionary:
1.. an ornamental tuft (as of feathers) especially on a helmet
2.. dash or flamboyance in style and action
Good morning, Fern!
It's you and me, Rose, so far. We know how to see both sides of his badness and put the cheap-con act where he belongs, on the wall next to a can of Campbell's soup.
I think that Campbell's is a pretty poor excuse for soup, but I still would not want to see it suffer the indignity. Trump is full of sound and fury, but would have been ignored as a childish idiot had he not had pots of money. I suspect that a lot of people who have been raised with authoritarianism and been injured by it, cheer on his shameless misbehavior because (again due to his inheritance) he CAN get away with it, and has. Up until now anyway.
An ornamental tuft. Ya mean that rat nest on top of his head?
Yeap! When the wind hits it just so, it transforms from nest to tuft.
"and he's got a point there, doesn't he?"
Absolutely Trump has a good point.
Hillary moving her communications, as US Secretary of State, outside of the .gov domain was intended to insure that future Freedom of Information Act requests would be denied since she was on her private domain not the .gov domain where the law is relevant.
Fortunately for Hillary, James Comey was head of the FBI and ruled that it was not illegal to consciously try to avoid future FOIA requests. Me? I would have ruled it is illegal.
We just cannot have government officials doing business on private domain name email accounts where the Russians can easily hack them, or the Chinese, or my own kids.
And, oh, I remember, the Russians DID hack her emails.
Slimed by the Clintons one more time.
Yeah, I think that what Hillary did there was not nothing; and probably a grunt employee would have suffered official consequences for it. The election eve investigation announcement was weird and probably disastrous, certainly advantageous to Trump, though Trumps constant harping on it is beyond hypocritical. I also thought Bill Clinton's lies (not the dalliance, the lies) were a terrible presidential precedent.
Seriously, it is 2023.
Absolutely тАЬwhataboutismтАЭ. What is wrong with these people? They hang onto the words of this man like it was the Holy Bible. Even high schoolers know the basic points of discourse when you need to explain important issues; especially when the goal is to change minds. Deflection is top of list, along with Ad hominem arguments. The fact that this man did not disappear off the political spectrum after he lost in 2020 is mind boggling.
He will not go away as long as they come and cheer. His self-esteem needs idiots cheering him. They are the deplorables.
Especially in our ever more massive and complicated society where bad decisions seem to have less wiggle room to avoid disaster, I think critical thinking might rank with the "3Rs" as a survival tool. One afternoon is 5th or 6th grade (in the 1950s) my class was told of Nazi propaganda and classic logical fallacies. I got another brief dose in an elective class in High school. Yet how to determine what is real and what is BS or inadequately demonstrated should weave it's way though all basic education, along with challenges with which students practice and refine their skills. I don't think that is happening, the likes of Trump, DeSantis, or MTG would not stand a chance of election. Not that there would be no political conflicts, but a much reduced tolerance for lies in high places. Is one not to some degree dehumanized when being lied to, at least to the extent of the liars intent?
ItтАЩs not a witch hunt if you donтАЩt actually get to burn a witch.
Michigan ManтАЩs tweet yesterday: тАЬWitch caught. Hunt over.тАЭ
Burn baby burn.
Oh funny !
Also chilling....
Yes, so sadly ЁЯлд
Well, the McCarthy Hearings were called "witch hunts" with good reason, but the "Republican" party has morphed into Witch Hunters Inc. "Justice" Alitio even claimed the authority of one from long ago.
My grammar, spelling and punctuation might not always be perfect, but aren't his tweets appalling?! THIS will forever be a former POTUS. Shame!!
A twice impeached former POTUS who can't spell and has the caps lock stuck on his keyboard.
Or his brain stuck on himself.
Compare to the usual accuracy and eloquence of Lincoln. It is the fate of our society at stake here. More than one of my elementary school teachers told us that "anyone" could grow up to be president (dunno about blacks and women back then, but we've come a long way). I never suspected a total A-hole would make it, but then world history says otherwise. Now I know why a word like "kakistocracy" (governance by the worst) is in the dictionary.
1850 BOXES!!! President Biden is going to need a bigger house, Corvette, garage, thatтАЩs all I can say.