But then, if the despicable droids at the NYT and WaPo actually fact-checked ANYTHING, they might be accused of committing journalism which seems to terrify these cowardly scumwads.
But then, if the despicable droids at the NYT and WaPo actually fact-checked ANYTHING, they might be accused of committing journalism which seems to terrify these cowardly scumwads.
Deplorable Linda, you do just what they do. The name calling no better. This is a harmful indulgence of us versus them and dumb. But you apparently enjoy it. It is not helpful nor smart. Sorry i have to say that. I thought you were worth responding to but i see not.
When you go on and on with your project of name calling you become a MAGA yourself and it's divisive and disrespectful and in fact help bring MAGA in your stubbornness.Speak of compulsion? Who pays you in fact? No, I am done. I thought you were better than this immature name calling. It's dumb.
Here is journalist Philip Bump's critical analysis of how the Parkinson story got ahead of the facts. Published in the Washington Post.
"CannardтАЩs visits were not exceptional given the number of known visits he made during the Obama administration. Visitor records maintained by the National Archives show 64 visits from 2012 through 2016, including a White House tour and CannardтАЩs attendance at a holiday party. There are no public records from the Trump administration." [The
Before Project 2025, Ginni Thomas was going to the Trump White House with lists of who should be hired and fired by the executive branch.
"A central focus for Ms. Hair and Ms. Thomas was administration appointments that they wanted made and that they accused the presidentтАЩs aides of blocking."
"A group led by Ginni Thomas has targeted officials in the administration, and lobbied for its own preferred choices. As the presidentтАЩs distrust in those serving him has grown, so has its sway."
"A well-connected network of conservative activists with close ties to Trump and top administration officials is quietly helping develop these "Never Trump"/pro-Trump lists, and some sent memos to Trump to shape his views, per sources with direct knowledge.
Members of this network include Ginni Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, and Republican Senate staffer Barbara Ledeen."
The Parkinson's story is not relevant. The disastrous debate is the issue. It is time for Letters to state the obvious. Time for Biden to retire from the campaign.
No, Beth. Looking at the Parkinson's story exposes the way Biden is being unfairly characterized by those who want to downplay policy issues, his record, and his values. The madness of Trump ought to be the story being told. Except it's not a "story"; it is horrifying potential reality.
The hitch is that there *is* something up with Biden. It's apparent. He still gets my vote. Where the public can see changes that seem to be happening quickly, and the official response is simply 'he's old and there's nothing to see here', it leaves room for all this wild speculation. We don't even know how much our foreign adversaries are pumping in here, but the gap has been left and they continue to fill it with expanding foam. Meanwhile, everything alarming about Trump, as HCR notes here, is getting covered up.
If Biden were to get to a point where he cannot function as leader, Harris would just take over. That's pretty much the worst that would happen, especially since Dems wouldn't be afraid to use Article 25 the way R's seem to be. Contrast that with what will very likely happen if Trump is elected.
but is it it reasonable to ask the people to vote for a man who quite likely will not be able to do the job in 3 years? I will, but I am a politics nerd terrified of a trump administration and all that implies. We are a small minority.
There seems to be, or there is suspicion of a cover-up of Biden's physical and mental health. There is a lack of forthrightness that caused alarm after the debate. Biden is losing to Trump in the polls which cannot be totally discounted much longer. Biden is a risky choice. Kamala is doing well. I agree. It's a big deal if people are really voting for Kamala Harris.
I am alarmed by all those who are defending Biden to the point of belligerance and not asking vital questions.
Have you listened to his speeches? Every time he talks to people, calls them on the phone, does interviews he shows great strength. He's my president and he has my vote.
I don't understand. I don't particularly like the guy, but he is entitled to his opinion and like he says, he pays for this site like the rest of us. Heather makes it available and we pay. So his opinion, even if you disagree with it, is just as valid as any other opinion. You can hate it but you really shouldn't be able to censor it. Otherwise, you are not even engaging in a true debate about this, you are just sticking your head into the proverbial hole.
"This isn't about Trump. Its about whether an 81 year with Dementia should be the Commander in Chief."
Of course this is about Trump - and the entire right wing apparatus repurposing our Democratic republic as a corporate-clerical fascist state. Through corruption of the Supreme Court. Misdirection of Congressional authority. And through Project 2025, establishing an imperial executive.
Biden is diminished. That is an undeniable observation, it is not a medical diagnosis. This is a significant political problem. With a political solution. Or resolution.
The more significant, perhaps fatal, problem is the American electorate. Those who are disaffected and disengaged and will not vote. Those who will enthusiastically vote for authoritarianism in the person of Trump. Those who mistake voting as an individual exercise in personal expression and will help elect Trump by voting for Stein, RKFJR et al.
That leaves the rest of us. To dedicate ourselves from now to November in Getting Out The Vote for whomever is the Democratic candidate.
Ageist Russian Bot! Mouthpiece for Putin. Trump should be in a prison for the criminally insane, not the White House. Biden does not have dementia. So you lie. At least what I am saying is true. Trump is a criminal and he is insane. My paternal great-grandmother lived on her own until the age of 109. Then she died. My maternal grandmother lived to be 99.5. My mom is now 90 and is living independently in a senior community, where I have been to dinner in their dinning room with men in their mid-90s who are lively and interesting. I am in Germany in an art group with a woman who is 92. She is vivacious, still drives, also takes public or her bike, does interesting art work, and has interesting things to say about art, and politics and other topics. She is lively and a incisive. She lives on her own in her home for many, many years. Wisdom is needed for this job, that is why Biden gets it done. Biden does not have any signs on dementia. This does not come on overnight. If he does have it he will make room for his great vice president. If not, she gets more practice to take over.
James A, I am not going to accuse you of trolling but you look half my age (and the President's three years younger than I am).
But I do just hope for your sake that, when you're approaching our age you'll be treated with far more respect than you've shown.
I wish you a long life, good health and none of the tragedies that have struck Joe Biden and his family; yet to remember these words when you too begin (excuse me, Leonard Cohen) to ache in the places where you used to play...
I'm a foreigner, a Brit -- with plenty of Irish forebears, like Biden -- but if there's one thing that stinks about people's behavior in both countries, it is the way in which so many dare quite gratuitously to pass judgment on fellow human beings -- on THEM, not even their actions. All this, on the basis of gross ignorance, prejudices and the most superficial appearances.
With all due respect, what do you know about the political, social and economic record of this president who has been too damned busy with the tough job of governing the country to find time to entertain you? A job made all the tougher by having at every stage to cross political minefields, all too often under fire from freebooting snipers.
Most American presidents have been mediocrities... or worse. This one has signal achievements to his name, laboring to serve the people, not the 0.01% and their miraculous money siphon. That's why so many occult movers and shakers are working so hard to destroy him and all his work and to replace him and the Republic by a harsh dictatorship:
Government of Mammon, by Mammon, exclusively, for Mammon.
Yes except for your last paragraph which goes off the deep end and sounds conspiratorial. As well Biden has done well but another 4 years is asking too much from what we see.
You don't know that he has dementia. You are out on a limb. By your reasoning Trump should be in a straight jacket in an asylum, not running for president as an oath breaking insurrectionist ongoing.
The debate. Seeing is believing. The middle who is necessary to win will not support Joe Biden. I'm sorry. I love Joe. I'll vote for whoever the Democrats put up. George Clooney And Nancy Pelosi have now publicly come out for Joe to step aside. The dam is starting to break. Check out Clooney's excellent opinion piece.
Given the symptoms, very similar to Parkinson's, there was concern, actually alarm. Biden's campaign and viability for the next 4 years has him as the ONLY ONE standing between us and Trump.
I credit you with being pro-democracy, but your desire for Biden to retire from the campaign misconstrues our chances for success. Biden is fine, and is our strongest possible candidate to win this election.
I watched his speech at the 75th Anniversary of NATO. He knows the heads of countries that are members personally, and they know they can trust him.
Do not be fooled by a poor debate performance! Debating is not a part of Presidential duties.
President Biden's debate performance overall was not horrible, the first 20 mins were awful I agree, Trump however continued to lie for another 70 mins.
Trump was himself, Biden was not. DonтАЩt try to downplay it as a bad day. that doesnt happen to my 84 year old dad. I am a doctor that spends a lot of time with old folks, something is up.
Biden was not feeling well. Also, he's not an actor (as is tffg). Biden is not perfect but he is honest and reliable. I believe his mind is good and he has good people working with him. I'm sure he would like to rest, but he loves our country and will save our democracy. Who would you suggest to take his place?
Why, oh why is the Lincoln Project and Progress Radio the only ones on the offensive? Nothing gets to Trump more than challenging his lies or anything personal about him.
The Biden campaign needs to ask Trump to step down for lying 602 times during the CNN so called debate. And they need to call out CNN for being AWFUL at their jobs.
Plus they need to call out the RNC platform that is Project 2025 lite,
Tell Trump we don't want anymore HARRM done--
NO HATE
NO ANGER
NO REVENGE
NO RESENTMENT
NO MISINFORMATION
And start showing Trump's fat ass as he shuffles off stage. He is a dotard as Kim Jon Un called it.
Here's Convicted Felon Donald Trump's first three sentences of the debate.
You count the lies.. 4 lies in 3 sentences. I know you said to name ONE lie, but he is so good at compound lying, I couldn't help myself.
"We had the greatest economy in the history of our country. We had never done so well. Every тАУ everybody was amazed by it. Other countries were copying us.
and media has not made relevant all the lies told that evening and at his rally or speaking in public and forgotten names and countries and........................................................................
Asking Biden to step aside is asking him to step aside so that Trump can be the only candidate because there is no one else. No other dem can win this late in the game because they never have. One, they will not have any money because Biden's immense war chest which is growing does not legally transfer, and two, because his delegates pledged to him don't either. So, why? Because of the debate or over his performance on the job. He is gifted at politics and is the best president of my lifetime. Are you bigoted against stutterers or an agist? Neither is appealing and I cannot support you or people who think like you in that. You are being manipulated by media who is supporting a fascist to get clicks.
You look at one 90-minute debate and are ready to throw the president under the bus? You've not been reading Professor Richardson's letters explaining how changing the candidate for president 100 days before the election would throw the Democratic party into complete chaos. You've fallen for the right leaning media who can only address that and not every word out of tfg's mouth which was a lie. He didn't answer one question. Pathetic that the news refuses to cover that. Biden's age is the ONLY issue retrumplicans have to claim to make Joe look bad. He is the best president our country has had since FDR in my view and I've been around for quiet a few of them.
Look, I have the greatest respect for Heather Richardson. But like anyone else in life, I believe she is wrong on this point (that the democratic party will devolve into chaos if we choose someone other than Biden). One of the things I love about this stack is that we are open to disagree.
The simple facts are that there are only 6-7 states in play for this election and Biden is clearly going to lose almost all of them if he stays in the race. And that means Trump will win.
Almost any Democrat who has some stature could run instead of Biden and do better. Could they beat Trump? I don't know for sure, but I suspect several of them could. My personal favorite ticket is Harris/Whitmer but others could be considered. There is plenty of time, we aren't even to the GOP convention let alone the Democratic convention yet.
Biden's age IS the only issue. You can try to explain it away all you want, but it is what it is. He has lost several steps both physically and mentally in the past 3-1/2 years and age is not an "illness" which you can get better from. It is inevitable. He isn't going to "get better".
And you can say that isn't fair, and I AGREE with you, its horribly UNFAIR, but when you choose to get into politics, you have to take the game as it is played. Shouting "unfair" isn't going to get those people in the purple states who are undecided to vote for Biden.
Thanks for the honesty. That seems to be a rare quality here.
This problem is COMPLETELY at the feet of the Biden Campaign, the media, and DNC. They have been hiding Biden's condition for years.
Did they think they could hide it for another campaign season? They've been lying and they got caught. This was a ticking time bomb and they CHOSE to ignore it.
That's what's unfair. America doesn't to know if the commander in chief is up to the job.
Is this far more organized than what I imagine a Quizling list looked like?
Trump appointees were frightening enough, more frightening is the list of people who prefer to operate in the shadows instead of as elected or appointed officials more exposed to public view.
The hidden level of effort they are putting into it may stun the public into reconsidering some careless choices.
I also notice Sabastian Gorka seemed to want Republicans to not mention too much about Project 2025 (I assume because of the backlash that would be generated as the public learns more details), while I believe Steve Bannon suggests that Project 2025 is just a shadow of whatтАЩs coming after the power grab, and considers Trump a moderate (I believe hinting that even Trump will be removed when the hidden backers take over).
"...Project 2025 is the Trump movementтАЩs vehicle for enacting BannonтАЩs vision of retaliation, which goes far beyond whatтАЩs in the Mandate for Leadership.
тАЬOn the spectrum of MAGA,тАЭ he recently told NBC News, тАЬI would say President Trump is a moderate in our movement. And I think the MAGA movement is shifting day by day to the right.тАЭ
Under a second Trump presidency, not only would the administration likely draw on the Project 2025 framework, but it would also be under pressure from Bannon and his supporters to go significantly further..."
But why isnтАЩt everyone more concerned about the dishwashers! we should focus on the substance of this congressional legislation! they are hard at work.....
IтАЩm intending to hard copy a letter to the Times castigating them for journalistic incompetence and submitting my termination of subscription. On the other hand, I only pay $4 per month special rate. It would have no effect on them.
Busy as things move along during this hot miserable summer of тАШ24,тАЩ IтАЩm reminded that you plan a beautiful garden of vegetable and flower plants. Watering and enriching the soil and the plants are growing nicety. But leave it to a democrat to muck things up. WeтАЩve been mucking things up in our metaphorical garden for a quarter century or more. And the question begs to be asked, тАЬWhen will we stop mucking things up?тАЭ Answer: Probably never because after all, we are democrats. And democrats just have a nack of mucking things up.
I would rather be a member of a party that debates and dedicates itself to free speech than to one where you must be loyal to a king/czar/dictator or pay the consequences.
The vast majority of Democrats will vote for whoever the nominee for president is. Biden or someone else. In the meantime we will squabble like a big family. But in the end the food is great and we hug each other before heading home.
I see freedom of expression and vigorous debate within a party as a strength and something to be proud of. The other guys? A bunch of cowering cowards who started out trashing Trump and now bend over to kiss his ring.
There is nothing to be admired in the mindless, lockstep unity of the MAGANAZIS. But what we should be emulating is their long term planning for governing dominance. We have been asleep at the switch while Leonard Leo and Co. have stolen the judiciary. That is the big "muckup".
Good analogy, Bill. It is almost as if we have organic gardeners, flower gardeners, native plant gardeners, grow the biggest tomato gardeners, orchid gardeners, competitive lawn grower gardeners, all trying to coalesce into one garden party...
Bill -- There's power in numbers. Many of us have dropped The NY Times over the past couple of years. And it's the advertising dollars that speak volumes to the Publisher.
As I comment elsewhere here, subscriptions to cable TV are dropping like a rock. The first quarter of 2024 saw the largest loss of subscribers in a single quarter -- EVER. Only about 53 million households now have cable compared to over 100 million at the peak.
I tried to quit Spectrum several months ago and they actually pay me, $10/month not to cancel by not charging for cable and reducing my Internet charge by $10/month.
My point is -- Who is pay attention to what is going on out there at this point in the election cycle? I know we all are and we get our information from HCR.
But then, if the despicable droids at the NYT and WaPo actually fact-checked ANYTHING, they might be accused of committing journalism which seems to terrify these cowardly scumwads.
The NYT is like a Russian bot account at this point.
LInda, this is not helpful.
Potter you are not helpful. There are better forums for MAGAs.
Deplorable Linda, you do just what they do. The name calling no better. This is a harmful indulgence of us versus them and dumb. But you apparently enjoy it. It is not helpful nor smart. Sorry i have to say that. I thought you were worth responding to but i see not.
If it bothers you Potter, why do you not stop. It seems as if you are getting paid to do this, or is it Bot compulsion.
When you go on and on with your project of name calling you become a MAGA yourself and it's divisive and disrespectful and in fact help bring MAGA in your stubbornness.Speak of compulsion? Who pays you in fact? No, I am done. I thought you were better than this immature name calling. It's dumb.
Here is journalist Philip Bump's critical analysis of how the Parkinson story got ahead of the facts. Published in the Washington Post.
"CannardтАЩs visits were not exceptional given the number of known visits he made during the Obama administration. Visitor records maintained by the National Archives show 64 visits from 2012 through 2016, including a White House tour and CannardтАЩs attendance at a holiday party. There are no public records from the Trump administration." [The
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/09/biden-debate-physical-issues/
"Breaking with the practice of President Donald TrumpтАЩs predecessor, the White House is keeping secret the lists of visitors to the building."
https://apnews.com/united-states-government-9ed190feb84c4d6081b27f0775260f43
Before Project 2025, Ginni Thomas was going to the Trump White House with lists of who should be hired and fired by the executive branch.
"A central focus for Ms. Hair and Ms. Thomas was administration appointments that they wanted made and that they accused the presidentтАЩs aides of blocking."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/26/us/politics/trump-ginni-thomas-meeting.html
"A group led by Ginni Thomas has targeted officials in the administration, and lobbied for its own preferred choices. As the presidentтАЩs distrust in those serving him has grown, so has its sway."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/24/us/politics/trump-purge-ginni-thomas.html
"A well-connected network of conservative activists with close ties to Trump and top administration officials is quietly helping develop these "Never Trump"/pro-Trump lists, and some sent memos to Trump to shape his views, per sources with direct knowledge.
Members of this network include Ginni Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, and Republican Senate staffer Barbara Ledeen."
https://www.axios.com/2020/02/23/trump-memos-deep-state-white-house
The Parkinson's story is not relevant. The disastrous debate is the issue. It is time for Letters to state the obvious. Time for Biden to retire from the campaign.
No, Beth. Looking at the Parkinson's story exposes the way Biden is being unfairly characterized by those who want to downplay policy issues, his record, and his values. The madness of Trump ought to be the story being told. Except it's not a "story"; it is horrifying potential reality.
The hitch is that there *is* something up with Biden. It's apparent. He still gets my vote. Where the public can see changes that seem to be happening quickly, and the official response is simply 'he's old and there's nothing to see here', it leaves room for all this wild speculation. We don't even know how much our foreign adversaries are pumping in here, but the gap has been left and they continue to fill it with expanding foam. Meanwhile, everything alarming about Trump, as HCR notes here, is getting covered up.
If Biden were to get to a point where he cannot function as leader, Harris would just take over. That's pretty much the worst that would happen, especially since Dems wouldn't be afraid to use Article 25 the way R's seem to be. Contrast that with what will very likely happen if Trump is elected.
but is it it reasonable to ask the people to vote for a man who quite likely will not be able to do the job in 3 years? I will, but I am a politics nerd terrified of a trump administration and all that implies. We are a small minority.
There seems to be, or there is suspicion of a cover-up of Biden's physical and mental health. There is a lack of forthrightness that caused alarm after the debate. Biden is losing to Trump in the polls which cannot be totally discounted much longer. Biden is a risky choice. Kamala is doing well. I agree. It's a big deal if people are really voting for Kamala Harris.
I am alarmed by all those who are defending Biden to the point of belligerance and not asking vital questions.
Have you listened to his speeches? Every time he talks to people, calls them on the phone, does interviews he shows great strength. He's my president and he has my vote.
Correct!!!!!!
What in the hell are you talking about? Biden shouldn't be president, he should be in the Delaware Senior Citizens Home.
The media covered up and lied about it for years. This isn't about Trump. Its about whether an 81 year with Dementia should be the Commander in Chief.
You sir, are a troll. Thank goodness I can block trolls. Good day to you.
Sorry if the truth is too much for you to handle.
Who in the hell are you to tell me what I can say? I pay for this site.
I don't understand. I don't particularly like the guy, but he is entitled to his opinion and like he says, he pays for this site like the rest of us. Heather makes it available and we pay. So his opinion, even if you disagree with it, is just as valid as any other opinion. You can hate it but you really shouldn't be able to censor it. Otherwise, you are not even engaging in a true debate about this, you are just sticking your head into the proverbial hole.
I reported it. You might want to do the same.
Buzz off
"This isn't about Trump. Its about whether an 81 year with Dementia should be the Commander in Chief."
Of course this is about Trump - and the entire right wing apparatus repurposing our Democratic republic as a corporate-clerical fascist state. Through corruption of the Supreme Court. Misdirection of Congressional authority. And through Project 2025, establishing an imperial executive.
Biden is diminished. That is an undeniable observation, it is not a medical diagnosis. This is a significant political problem. With a political solution. Or resolution.
The more significant, perhaps fatal, problem is the American electorate. Those who are disaffected and disengaged and will not vote. Those who will enthusiastically vote for authoritarianism in the person of Trump. Those who mistake voting as an individual exercise in personal expression and will help elect Trump by voting for Stein, RKFJR et al.
That leaves the rest of us. To dedicate ourselves from now to November in Getting Out The Vote for whomever is the Democratic candidate.
Ageist Russian Bot! Mouthpiece for Putin. Trump should be in a prison for the criminally insane, not the White House. Biden does not have dementia. So you lie. At least what I am saying is true. Trump is a criminal and he is insane. My paternal great-grandmother lived on her own until the age of 109. Then she died. My maternal grandmother lived to be 99.5. My mom is now 90 and is living independently in a senior community, where I have been to dinner in their dinning room with men in their mid-90s who are lively and interesting. I am in Germany in an art group with a woman who is 92. She is vivacious, still drives, also takes public or her bike, does interesting art work, and has interesting things to say about art, and politics and other topics. She is lively and a incisive. She lives on her own in her home for many, many years. Wisdom is needed for this job, that is why Biden gets it done. Biden does not have any signs on dementia. This does not come on overnight. If he does have it he will make room for his great vice president. If not, she gets more practice to take over.
Is George Clooney a Russian troll too? His NY Times Op-ed today
said what we all saw during the debate, Biden has significant cognitive decline and has to go.
I can't imagine a dumber post. Your proof that we are ALL WRONG is your
some maternal grandmother? Is this a joke?
Time to roll down your window and join us back on earth.
James A, I am not going to accuse you of trolling but you look half my age (and the President's three years younger than I am).
But I do just hope for your sake that, when you're approaching our age you'll be treated with far more respect than you've shown.
I wish you a long life, good health and none of the tragedies that have struck Joe Biden and his family; yet to remember these words when you too begin (excuse me, Leonard Cohen) to ache in the places where you used to play...
I'm a foreigner, a Brit -- with plenty of Irish forebears, like Biden -- but if there's one thing that stinks about people's behavior in both countries, it is the way in which so many dare quite gratuitously to pass judgment on fellow human beings -- on THEM, not even their actions. All this, on the basis of gross ignorance, prejudices and the most superficial appearances.
With all due respect, what do you know about the political, social and economic record of this president who has been too damned busy with the tough job of governing the country to find time to entertain you? A job made all the tougher by having at every stage to cross political minefields, all too often under fire from freebooting snipers.
Most American presidents have been mediocrities... or worse. This one has signal achievements to his name, laboring to serve the people, not the 0.01% and their miraculous money siphon. That's why so many occult movers and shakers are working so hard to destroy him and all his work and to replace him and the Republic by a harsh dictatorship:
Government of Mammon, by Mammon, exclusively, for Mammon.
Yes except for your last paragraph which goes off the deep end and sounds conspiratorial. As well Biden has done well but another 4 years is asking too much from what we see.
You don't know that he has dementia. You are out on a limb. By your reasoning Trump should be in a straight jacket in an asylum, not running for president as an oath breaking insurrectionist ongoing.
...Should be anywhere but free.
Benedict Arnold was a patriot by comparison with this creature.
Unfortunately there is a stubborn thing called facts:
Blank stare
Memory loss
Weak speech
Fumbling speech
These are the symptoms of dementia. Trump doesn't have any of them.
Nice try
Are you kidding? FACTS do not prove DEMENTIA. That maybe the dumbest post I've ever read.
Feelings do?
The debate. Seeing is believing. The middle who is necessary to win will not support Joe Biden. I'm sorry. I love Joe. I'll vote for whoever the Democrats put up. George Clooney And Nancy Pelosi have now publicly come out for Joe to step aside. The dam is starting to break. Check out Clooney's excellent opinion piece.
Given the symptoms, very similar to Parkinson's, there was concern, actually alarm. Biden's campaign and viability for the next 4 years has him as the ONLY ONE standing between us and Trump.
I credit you with being pro-democracy, but your desire for Biden to retire from the campaign misconstrues our chances for success. Biden is fine, and is our strongest possible candidate to win this election.
I watched his speech at the 75th Anniversary of NATO. He knows the heads of countries that are members personally, and they know they can trust him.
Do not be fooled by a poor debate performance! Debating is not a part of Presidential duties.
President Biden's debate performance overall was not horrible, the first 20 mins were awful I agree, Trump however continued to lie for another 70 mins.
Trump was himself, Biden was not. DonтАЩt try to downplay it as a bad day. that doesnt happen to my 84 year old dad. I am a doctor that spends a lot of time with old folks, something is up.
Biden was not feeling well. Also, he's not an actor (as is tffg). Biden is not perfect but he is honest and reliable. I believe his mind is good and he has good people working with him. I'm sure he would like to rest, but he loves our country and will save our democracy. Who would you suggest to take his place?
Debate was not horrible? What were you watching?
By the way name 1 lie?
Biden lied blatantly about being endorsed by the Border Patrol Union. During the debate the Union tweeded "We have never endorsed Joe and never will"
It takes a lot stones to lie like that.
Why, oh why is the Lincoln Project and Progress Radio the only ones on the offensive? Nothing gets to Trump more than challenging his lies or anything personal about him.
The Biden campaign needs to ask Trump to step down for lying 602 times during the CNN so called debate. And they need to call out CNN for being AWFUL at their jobs.
Plus they need to call out the RNC platform that is Project 2025 lite,
Tell Trump we don't want anymore HARRM done--
NO HATE
NO ANGER
NO REVENGE
NO RESENTMENT
NO MISINFORMATION
And start showing Trump's fat ass as he shuffles off stage. He is a dotard as Kim Jon Un called it.
Name One LIE?
Here's Convicted Felon Donald Trump's first three sentences of the debate.
You count the lies.. 4 lies in 3 sentences. I know you said to name ONE lie, but he is so good at compound lying, I couldn't help myself.
"We had the greatest economy in the history of our country. We had never done so well. Every тАУ everybody was amazed by it. Other countries were copying us.
and media has not made relevant all the lies told that evening and at his rally or speaking in public and forgotten names and countries and........................................................................
Asking Biden to step aside is asking him to step aside so that Trump can be the only candidate because there is no one else. No other dem can win this late in the game because they never have. One, they will not have any money because Biden's immense war chest which is growing does not legally transfer, and two, because his delegates pledged to him don't either. So, why? Because of the debate or over his performance on the job. He is gifted at politics and is the best president of my lifetime. Are you bigoted against stutterers or an agist? Neither is appealing and I cannot support you or people who think like you in that. You are being manipulated by media who is supporting a fascist to get clicks.
You look at one 90-minute debate and are ready to throw the president under the bus? You've not been reading Professor Richardson's letters explaining how changing the candidate for president 100 days before the election would throw the Democratic party into complete chaos. You've fallen for the right leaning media who can only address that and not every word out of tfg's mouth which was a lie. He didn't answer one question. Pathetic that the news refuses to cover that. Biden's age is the ONLY issue retrumplicans have to claim to make Joe look bad. He is the best president our country has had since FDR in my view and I've been around for quiet a few of them.
Look, I have the greatest respect for Heather Richardson. But like anyone else in life, I believe she is wrong on this point (that the democratic party will devolve into chaos if we choose someone other than Biden). One of the things I love about this stack is that we are open to disagree.
The simple facts are that there are only 6-7 states in play for this election and Biden is clearly going to lose almost all of them if he stays in the race. And that means Trump will win.
Almost any Democrat who has some stature could run instead of Biden and do better. Could they beat Trump? I don't know for sure, but I suspect several of them could. My personal favorite ticket is Harris/Whitmer but others could be considered. There is plenty of time, we aren't even to the GOP convention let alone the Democratic convention yet.
Biden's age IS the only issue. You can try to explain it away all you want, but it is what it is. He has lost several steps both physically and mentally in the past 3-1/2 years and age is not an "illness" which you can get better from. It is inevitable. He isn't going to "get better".
And you can say that isn't fair, and I AGREE with you, its horribly UNFAIR, but when you choose to get into politics, you have to take the game as it is played. Shouting "unfair" isn't going to get those people in the purple states who are undecided to vote for Biden.
I wish it weren't so, but it is.
Thanks for the honesty. That seems to be a rare quality here.
This problem is COMPLETELY at the feet of the Biden Campaign, the media, and DNC. They have been hiding Biden's condition for years.
Did they think they could hide it for another campaign season? They've been lying and they got caught. This was a ticking time bomb and they CHOSE to ignore it.
That's what's unfair. America doesn't to know if the commander in chief is up to the job.
No, itтАЩs Time for subscribers to cancel Nyt
Cancellation is the LEFTIST way. Anyone who puts out news you don't like
has suffered the same fate for the last four years
No!
NO
Is this far more organized than what I imagine a Quizling list looked like?
Trump appointees were frightening enough, more frightening is the list of people who prefer to operate in the shadows instead of as elected or appointed officials more exposed to public view.
The hidden level of effort they are putting into it may stun the public into reconsidering some careless choices.
I also notice Sabastian Gorka seemed to want Republicans to not mention too much about Project 2025 (I assume because of the backlash that would be generated as the public learns more details), while I believe Steve Bannon suggests that Project 2025 is just a shadow of whatтАЩs coming after the power grab, and considers Trump a moderate (I believe hinting that even Trump will be removed when the hidden backers take over).
I couldn't find Bannon's exact words, but see the following at https://www.mediamatters.org/steve-bannon/where-steve-bannon-leaves-us
"...Project 2025 is the Trump movementтАЩs vehicle for enacting BannonтАЩs vision of retaliation, which goes far beyond whatтАЩs in the Mandate for Leadership.
тАЬOn the spectrum of MAGA,тАЭ he recently told NBC News, тАЬI would say President Trump is a moderate in our movement. And I think the MAGA movement is shifting day by day to the right.тАЭ
Under a second Trump presidency, not only would the administration likely draw on the Project 2025 framework, but it would also be under pressure from Bannon and his supporters to go significantly further..."
But why isnтАЩt everyone more concerned about the dishwashers! we should focus on the substance of this congressional legislation! they are hard at work.....
I liked it better when they called it the HOOHA bill . .
IтАЩm intending to hard copy a letter to the Times castigating them for journalistic incompetence and submitting my termination of subscription. On the other hand, I only pay $4 per month special rate. It would have no effect on them.
Busy as things move along during this hot miserable summer of тАШ24,тАЩ IтАЩm reminded that you plan a beautiful garden of vegetable and flower plants. Watering and enriching the soil and the plants are growing nicety. But leave it to a democrat to muck things up. WeтАЩve been mucking things up in our metaphorical garden for a quarter century or more. And the question begs to be asked, тАЬWhen will we stop mucking things up?тАЭ Answer: Probably never because after all, we are democrats. And democrats just have a nack of mucking things up.
No really.
I would rather be a member of a party that debates and dedicates itself to free speech than to one where you must be loyal to a king/czar/dictator or pay the consequences.
The vast majority of Democrats will vote for whoever the nominee for president is. Biden or someone else. In the meantime we will squabble like a big family. But in the end the food is great and we hug each other before heading home.
I see freedom of expression and vigorous debate within a party as a strength and something to be proud of. The other guys? A bunch of cowering cowards who started out trashing Trump and now bend over to kiss his ring.
There is nothing to be admired in the mindless, lockstep unity of the MAGANAZIS. But what we should be emulating is their long term planning for governing dominance. We have been asleep at the switch while Leonard Leo and Co. have stolen the judiciary. That is the big "muckup".
Good analogy, Bill. It is almost as if we have organic gardeners, flower gardeners, native plant gardeners, grow the biggest tomato gardeners, orchid gardeners, competitive lawn grower gardeners, all trying to coalesce into one garden party...
OhhhhhтАж. I thought you were never going to interact.
Well I went to a garden party
To reminisce with my almost 100 year old friends
A chance to share old memories
And play our songs again
But itтАЩs all right now
I learned my lesson well
You see, you canтАЩt please everyone
So you got to please yourself
Oh great, now I have that Ricky Nelson song stuck in my head. :)
https://youtu.be/8BdG28kWf30
Now I do to because of you. I didnтАЩt much like it when it came out but you know time passes. I like it.
Wasn't my stuff at the time either. But my sister was ga ga for him.
Now? Not so bad. Reminds of simpler times.
The back story is interesting. Written because the audience wanted him to musically stay in the 1950s
Agree Bill. As the famous Will Rogers said, "I don't belong to any organized political party. I'm a Democrat."
Unfortunately true-we don't have the maturity to stay focused on the prize. We all need to support Biden and win this damn election or we're toast!
Bill -- There's power in numbers. Many of us have dropped The NY Times over the past couple of years. And it's the advertising dollars that speak volumes to the Publisher.
As I comment elsewhere here, subscriptions to cable TV are dropping like a rock. The first quarter of 2024 saw the largest loss of subscribers in a single quarter -- EVER. Only about 53 million households now have cable compared to over 100 million at the peak.
I tried to quit Spectrum several months ago and they actually pay me, $10/month not to cancel by not charging for cable and reducing my Internet charge by $10/month.
My point is -- Who is pay attention to what is going on out there at this point in the election cycle? I know we all are and we get our information from HCR.
George, THANK YOU... you nailed it! :)
This is not helpful or correct... just bad mouthing.