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Sandra P. Campbell's avatar

If any of you here don't watch Heather's FB live lectures, I encourage you to do so. Tuesday's zeroed on (at about minute 30) on why the Jan. 6th hearings are so critical and why the GOP is so freaked out over them. As she put it, "This is where the rubber meets the road", in that the lies that have been bandied about by the Right, never under oath, are meeting the truth, under oath, from witnesses who have nothing to gain. It certainly put things into a new perspective for me.

Also, since even the MSM insists on using false equivalence in their coverage, or at the very least, give the Right face time in their reporting, the fact that Heather reminds us that Jim Jordan can blather on lie after lie on TV and pay no price, but once he's under oath, it's a different ball game entirely. They all know this, and, lily-livered sniveling worms that they are, they are terrified.

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FERN MCBRIDE (NYC)'s avatar

Thank you Sandra for alerting us to Heather's lecture on Facebook, which addressed the critical nature of the Commission's hearings with regard to January 6th insurrection. As Charlie replied earlier, I too have left Facebook years ago, foreseeing its likely affects on the country. If you or others know whether the lecture is yet on YouTube, please let us anti-FB people know about it. I will check YouTube to see whether the lecture is available there. I will also email Heather about the fact that some subscribers who will not use FB would appreciate another option for viewing her lectures in a timely way. One more favor, please write out abbreviations and acronyms to make reading easier for subscribers. Thank you.

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Stephen from Sunny Seattle's avatar

As I commonly walk around the lake whilst listening to podcasts, I would encourage Heather to make her videos in an audio only format. It takes too much bandwidth (data) to listen to something that does not require video to appreciate.

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Ted's avatar

( of course that would come from Seattle!). Agree. I think the LFAA combined would make an incredible Audible book!

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FERN MCBRIDE (NYC)'s avatar

Great idea, Stephen. It would also be possible to podcast just audio and or have transcripts available.

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MaryPat's avatar

Her "Now&Then" podcasts are video only too.

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K Barnes's avatar

Second that! Plus it would be great to download from Audible and access while en route anytime.

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KKimmins's avatar

Hello Fern. I despise Facebook and have for ages and, that said, I ONLY use Facebook for Heather's talks, twice weekly every week. She is the only reason I am willing to use that wretched platform. In fact, I have been known to frequently badger my friends who read and watch her on FB to subscribe to Substack for this, the comments section.

And I must say, if you are missing her talks, you are missing out on a lot! Both her History Chat and her History & Politics Chat are wonderful and continue to connect the dots for me.

She has also recently begun a podcast called "Now&Then" on Cafe with Joanne Freeman.

She addressed the transfer to YouTube a while back. The chats take quite a while to appear there because shockingly, she is very busy! But rest assured, she is aware.

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FERN MCBRIDE (NYC)'s avatar

Kathi, Thank you for your thoughtful and supportive response.

We feel the same about Facebook, but the important difference is that when an enterprise's profit motive leaves no - absolutely NO space for eliminating anti-public health protocols, anti-science and anti-Climate Change messaging; NO sufficient limitation on anti-democracy propaganda and conspiracy theories, which are a form of mind control and as anti-democratic you can get via communications businesses, I cannot BUY IN.

Facebook is an evil empire. Zuckerberg, along with Trump, much of the Republican Party, Charles Koch, the Mercer Family, Rupert Murdoch and too many others are the detonators of democracy.

This is strong porridge, Kathi, but it is mine. We remember the millions upon millions killed by lies, memory control, conspiracies, greed and power. Who and what are putting our country at great risk?

'In the Holocaust, the Soviet terror of the 1930s, the Chinese Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, and Cambodia's 'killing fields', communism and fascism generated human tragedies on an immense scale'. (The Cambridge World History) Where has the USA been headed? It is our job to do our best to turn it around.

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Hope Lindsay's avatar

I quit FB, Fern.

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FERN MCBRIDE (NYC)'s avatar

Hope, I am literally moved to tears.

We need a powerful campaign to address social media - Elizabeth Warren? It is practically impossible to avoid making some contribution to the autocrats', white supremacists', morally corrupt profiteers' hold on our country. We have to pick and choose as carefully as we can. There is no failsafe.

Democracy thanks you. I know it does.

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Hope Lindsay's avatar

Thank you, Fern. I've tried to leave before, but when my account was hacked and so was my debit card, I thought it was time. I gave a few days to notify friends and family and voila! I don't miss it. I agree that we have moved too far to the right of "free speech" while ignoring the "never cry fire in a crowded theater" aphorism of common sense use of restraints. It's the AK-15 equivalent of bearing arms. And don't get me started about Citizens United!

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Sandra P. Campbell's avatar

Fern, Her lectures do eventually come to YouTube, but I find they are almost 2 months behind current time. I only use Facebook these days to watch HCR and one or two others I can't find elsewhere.

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FERN MCBRIDE (NYC)'s avatar

Thank you, Sandra, for this response. It makes sense to alert Heather to this situation.

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Janet W.'s avatar

I understand the issues one may have with FB and why one would not choose to be on but those issues are not avoided by going to YouTube which is owned by FB and has just as many crazy things :)

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Sandra P. Campbell's avatar

Janet, it is my understanding that YouTube is owned by Google.

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Janet W.'s avatar

I stand corrected . . . I listened to my husband for a moment instead of "Googling it" :) Never-the-less, the rest of my comment stands. It's kind of like "pick your poison", tee hee.

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Sandra P. Campbell's avatar

Yes, it is. Just read a NYTimes piece on the Evil Empire of the five big tech companies - Apple, FB, Google, Microsoft and Amazon. They are, indeed, taking over.

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Charlie Grantham (Tucson)'s avatar

I don't do Facebook because of their morally corrupt business model. Are these lectures available elsewhere?

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Lynell(VA by way of MD&DC)'s avatar

Hey, Charlie. I hear you. Heather has said she started using FB because there was so much mis- and disinformation on there that she wanted people to be able to find a reliable place to read newsworthy news.

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Sandra P. Campbell's avatar

To echo an old adage, "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." That's the way I approach the conundrum of things like Facebook.

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Susan Lorraine Knox's avatar

The Bible: know thine enemy.

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Bob Stromberg's avatar

I started using Facebook years ago and continue to use it not as a collaborateur, but to a) stay in touch with a couple score of people across the Internet, some of whom I know in real life (Yay!!) and b) to follow several people besides Heather who are focal, clever, educated, and forthright in their truth-telling. Examples: Bruce Lindner, Jim Wright, Lori Gallagher Witt, Maureen Gill Ausbrook. These are people whom I do not hear of outside of Facebook, and I would miss them if I abandoned the platform.

There are also some FB groups for the village where I live, and the region, and these are important ways to pick up local info (where's that fire, what were the cops doing, there was a coyote seen loping down the street, etc.).

At the same time, I take steps to protect at least some of my privacy. I don't post pictures of children. I don't mention family relationships. I don't announce that I'm on vacation.

I use a web browser (Safari) that helps prevent FB from tracking my visits to other web sites (they even track people who do not have FB profiles; not by name specifically, but by behavior and computer/browser attributes.) Hint: If I used Windows, I'd probably use Firefox with the "Facebook container" extension, or the Brave browser.

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Jan (TN)'s avatar

I am a Windows user. I use Firefox with DuckDuckGo as my search engine. I use DuckDuckGo as my browser on my Android phone.

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Jan (TN)'s avatar

In the past week, 62% of the sites I visited had Google trackers, 29% had Facebook trackers, and 25% had Amazon trackers. DuckDuckGo blocked them... I also use Firefox's Facebook Container.

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K Barnes's avatar

Hi Bob. I have enjoyed Jim Wright's writing for a while. Thanks for mentioning others you find interesting. I often find sources people mention in this group quite helpful!

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Barbara Andree's avatar

Hi Bob, why is the Brave browser better than say Google to look at Facebook? Thx

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Judith Swink (CA)'s avatar

Excellent question. I've never heard of it before. Please tell us more about it.

I have used Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird for many years. I find webmail cumbersome and refuse to use Outlook, Internet Explorer or Google Chrome. Will immediately download FB container now that I know about it. I always use Private Window for any online searching or purchases so my commercial interests no longer show up as ads on my FB feed.

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Bob Stromberg's avatar

1) Well, I mighta opened a can o' worms, but I mentioned Brave because stronger privacy advocates than I have recommended it.

I primarily use Apple products, and Safari is adequate for me for privacy protection in the current environment of the World-Wide Web.

Here's one review that jumps into the deep end:

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/brave-web-browser

2) I'm curious to know about your experience about using a Private Window (different names in different browsers). That option really only stops your browser from saving your search history ON YOUR MACHINE. Web sites can still track you. Now, if you're shopping for a gift for a housemate who also uses your computer, use incognito mode (as it's generally known).

I trust everybody in my household; nevertheless I maintain a login password on all my devices. I never use incognito mode because I have no need to hide my browsing history from housemates.

Here's a thorough coverage of "incognito mode:"

https://blog.malwarebytes.com/privacy-2/2021/05/what-is-incognito-mode-our-private-browsing-101/

BTW, here's help on using Private Window for various browsers. This seems accurate and current, but I have not tested this advice:

https://www.lifewire.com/browsing-incognito-445990

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Judith Swink (CA)'s avatar

Thank you for all of that. I'll devote time later today to exploring. As for Private mode, I do understand that it primarily stops my browser from saving my searches but it appears also to reduce or eliminate tracking, as far as I can tell. As I wrote, no ads for commercial sites I've searched are showing up in the FB 'ads' bar although they did once upon a time before I started using Private mode.

I like Malwarebytes as well and have subscribed in the past but don't seem to need it with the levels of protection I get from ESET which now includes ransomware protection. Another BTW, I use Duckduckgo for my internet searching; it doesn't collect or share personal info.

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Christine (FL)'s avatar

If you are on iPhone, you might be able to open in new tab without membership to Facebook.

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K Barnes's avatar

Thanks, Christine. I did try on three devices. No go.

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K Barnes's avatar

This is what I keep getting:

This Content Isn't Available Right Now

When this happens, it's usually because the owner only shared it with a small group of people, changed who can see it or it's been deleted.

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Sandra P. Campbell's avatar

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=516181346162013&ref=search

This is the same link, but with &ref+search added. I copied it directly from the address on FB. I think there is some wonkiness going on on some of these sites. I've had them freeze, slow to a crawl and/or not load. Maybe it's not you.

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K Barnes's avatar

Hi Sandra. Thank you VERY MUCH for offering a hand. Very grateful. Unfortunately this is what I get:

"This Content Isn't Available Right Now

When this happens, it's usually because the owner only shared it with a small group of people, changed who can see it or it's been deleted.

Go to News Feed"

I don't think I said or did anything that would warrant being shut out from the group. I have been running up against similar blank walls for months now. I had given up, not sure exactly where to turn for help or guidance. I really miss them and I just would love to be able to join in on the chats again. So this is my last resort. Again, thanks.

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Ted's avatar

Charlie, u will like NYT article by Max Fischer

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Christi McG (IL)'s avatar

The amount of lies, exaggerations, manipulations, and such out of trumplican and Republican mouths of late has had very dangerous consequences for out nation. And all transcribed and taped. Speaking under oath while also being videotaped and transcribed will create some VERY powerful campaign ads. The former president doesn’t care as he has established, but I’m sure elected GOP are terrified.

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Christine (FL)'s avatar

“MSM” = mainstream media.

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Sandra P. Campbell's avatar

Thanks, Christine. Oversight on my part.

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Gina's avatar

I sense this desperation in McCarthy’s recent statements and actions.

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Ted's avatar

McCarthy, McMoron

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Ted's avatar

What’s going on in the house is leverage in the Senate.

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S B  Lewis's avatar

Feed FB, you trash the Bill of Rights and feed fascism… the big four deserve anti trust attention… as suggested by Senator Amy Jean Klobuchar… the poor do not have computers, internet, or the tech savvy to find their way on the FB fix… and they do not watch that Fox Fix…

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