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That press conference was living proof that it is well past time for the men in white jackets with nets to intervene. November 5 wasn't an election. It was a collective suicide.

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I wish to be a European. My grandparents were born in Italy and by law, I can apply for Italian citizenship. Boun Jorno.

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Europe won't protect you from what's going to happen here, they are going to be greatly affected as well. Besides, don't forget that the maga/billionaires project includes Europe ,otherwise how you explain Mu$k interference in the UK, Germany, Hungary etc.

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There are long waiting lists at the Italian consulates for reviewing applications. You should grab an appointment asap if you know for sure that you qualify. Your parent or parents descended from your Italian born immigrant grandparents must have been born before the grandparent naturalized otherwise the chain for citizenship through blood is broken. Good luck.

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I have her naturalization document and my mother was around 6 years old at the time. In my reading on the Italian consulate page I found no such exclusion. In any case it doesnтАЩt apply to me. I have asked them what is the cost for this process devoid of the costs of certified government (Pestilles) documentation which runs about $30.00 per document. Do you know what the Italian government charges for finalization?

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The costs are going up.In October 2023 it cost me $326. In Oct the Ministero del Interno issued a circolare now called the тАЬminor issueтАЭ which affects millions of previously eligible applicants, including myself. If the descendant of the immigrant was a minor < 21, the chain of jus sanguinis was broken. This situation may change depending on the Italian courts.

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really. Holy crapola. Why I would think they would want nice white people with Italian heritage/S. Well good to know before I begin spending on Pistilles.

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Update to fees: application through consulate now is 600 euros per adult. See https://youtu.be/IqYC7S_Qgz8?si=m3othOuxBq2-geK- Also, minor issued explained in more detail here https://youtu.be/gPuS49ajwDc?si=Nq_zPpb5A2W96G0P.

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You need to speak better Italian than that.

May I suggest Duolingo or Babble?

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Giorno I canтАЩt spell also in English.

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Io posso parlare Italiano pui buorno anche fare un discorso con poco dificile.

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C'era una volta quando io ho parlato italiano molto bene! C'est plus facile que fran├зais, mais en ├йtudiant fan├зais j'ai oubli├й presque tout!

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Quand j'etudiais francais, souvent, je parlais espangnol au lieu de francais. Le lundi, je parlais avec ma femme de menage, et je lui ai dit, comment s'etait passe ton Noel, en italien! Ma femme de menage vient du Mexique!

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Probabilmente ti avr├а capito! Parliamo in italiano nel Messico e la Spagna spesso, e pi├╣ o meno funziona.

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Confessio plena: ego professor latinae eram et latinam XL annos legi. mane latinam iam lego. Nunc Ammianum Marcellinum et Juvenalem lego. et graecam antiquam lego (nunc mane non solum Demosthenem et Plutarchem, sed etiam Homerum). Credo litteras antiquas solacium magnum aevi mali esse. Et latina fundamentum linguae Italiae, Hispaniae, et Galliae modernae est. Et metto in LibroVultus (i.e. "Facebook") quid velim cum latina difficilis LibroVultus est.

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E, che catso fai, lol. We are permitted to cuss in Italian. Of course my last name is a cuss word. And we had a Fiona living in the casa in Florence. She was English. We had a Fiona. A catso. What else.

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Yes, I suppose a surname like yours might raise a few eyebrows in Italy. A good conversation starter in a bar. The important thing is to jump into it without fear, as most Italians will appreciate your desire to communicate with them in their own language.

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Good try!!!ЁЯШБ

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ЁЯШД

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Do you want to read my Spanish donтАЩt get me started

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Actually, it may be buona notte for us.

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"for all of us". There, fixed it. By the way, just have to say it:God I hate all Republicans and the people who voted for them.

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Hating Republicans wonтАЩt help. Getting your fellow academicians organized to teach history and civics (Ancient Greek, of course) would be really useful. I have a Ukrainian artist practicing on my grand piano at the momentтАФ the beginning of my resistance. Indivisible will also rise to the occasion.

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But I have to do business with some of them.

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Good luck in MeloniтАЩs Italy. You might even rub shoulders with Steve Bannon there.

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Living in CT,I drove to the prison where he was incarcerated the day of release with a big sign but the prison released him at 3:30 in the morning in order to circumvent protests. Dag I was disappointed.

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They've gone full Fascisti.

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Of course, if you move to Italy you will want to learn good conversational Italian.

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Funny. After not getting very far I the language school at the university for foreigners, in Florence in 1977/78, I went hope and took words from an Italian dictionary and made up sentences. Later when I hitch hiked down through the south and Sicily, I had to use ever damn word I knew in order to communicate. That was my ultimate test. I partially failed it but I developed a little more confidence and that is important when trying to converse in another language. Otherwise, IтАЩm just the typical lazy American. LetтАЩs be real here.

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And I wouldnтАЩt need to live there since as one with Italian citizenship, one can live most anywhere in the European Union.

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This afternoons DJT Rant seems to have revealed that DJT 2.0 will be about Revenge, and Destruction... Watching DJT Totter to the Podium, and Garble from it, seems to reveal Accelerating Decline... Seizing Greenland, Canada, and the Panama Canal will Alienate NATO, if not outright cause it to Crumble, and taking the Panama Canal will alienate Latin America further... How would their Citizens feel about losing their Independence? In DJT 1.0, DJT had explored AirStrikes against Mexico... Much of the Good Work of the Post WW2 World Based Order will be undone... Joe Biden, Mitch McConnell, and Merrick Garland failed in their Duty to Uphold the 'Rule-Of-Law'... DJT is not Immortal, but he will leave much Carnage as his Legacy...

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This (Donny ConvictтАЩs bizarre ramblings) is all a smokescreen; all bright, shiny objects over here.

While everyone is all, oh, no, he canтАЩt do that, yada yada yada; behind the scenes, theyтАЩre getting ready to pass tax cuts for corporations and millionaires/billionaires and hoping we wonтАЩt notice because weтАЩre all distracted by talk of invading Greenland.

DonтАЩt fall for it.

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Yes, you are exactly right.This is a page out of the tired playbook of Trump used ad nauseam during his first term.Throw out some really wild stuff, get the people all up in arms and then do some really vile other stuff hoping a lot of folks with be caught up in the wild stuff.It just gets more than tedious and I am not looking forward to 4 years of it especially since he hasnтАЩt even been inaugurated.smh

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Do тАШt assume that he wonтАЩt try. But you are right, the money will start flowing before Day 1. The tap is open

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Exactly - open for business - bring on the bribes and flattery, as demo'd by Facebook yesterday. And the bills about to flood Congress. But his blathering is concerning - his mental capacity is in decline, if it was ever at competence. He is not fit for the office, and who will be running the show there is worrisome. We will not have a functioning Executive Branch per se. Will it be Suzie Wiles, who knows what she is doing, but is now tied to this bunch of crooks and oligarchs. What are her real goals? And can she supersede Vance and Musk? Is is Project 2025 and The Heritage Foundation ? I don't know where her allegiances lie.

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I doubt that project 2025 was a surprise to her. The cult morons know exactly what they signed on to. Maybe not in 2016, but they surely did this timeтАж

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Marla, they are going to do both, the distraction is going to become a reality and they are going to push for a tax cut that will increase the budget deficit by 5 trillion and subsequent cuts in Medicare, SS and Medicaid. What do we have to loose?

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Only our country, and perhaps our lives before that.

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Ally, your reply is correct and well taken but I meant my question at the end of my comment as a joke . I probably should have included an emoji like this one,ЁЯШЙ.

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Oops. Maybe I should stand on a chair so stuff doesnтАЩt go over my head! ЁЯШЬ

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I would never, ever underestimate the Convicted Orange Felon's sheer malice. He is the Antichrist and has set out to destroy the entire world, just for his ego and his pleasure ("look what I did, daddy!").

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Marla... DJT will definitely travel his Revenge Trip first... The Major DJT 1.0 Accomplishments were his Tax Cuts, and over 1-Million COVID Deaths... I suspect that the Oligarchs are frightened about what DJT can do to their Businesses, for example Mark Zuckerberg, and I fear for the Ukrainians... DJT will be the worst President for this Country so far...

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If we were to visit a nursing home and there was a guy saying the stuff "DJT" just said, I think the staff would be ready with drugs and restraints.

He looked sweaty and gaunt. The men in the white coats? Where are they when we need them?

This is feeling like a Stephen KIng novel.

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Bill, switching channels yesterday, I noticed he was giving a "conference" but it's didn't have the stomach to watch. I just couldn't believe that we are going to have this aberration again.

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Rhetorical question: why are these broadcast? I guess either so we can see his decline for ourselves or because the broadcasters are complicit (or have obeyed in advance).

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The last option is the more likely reason and the unintended consequence of being able to see his decline is the first option

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Yesterday, asking myself the same question, after about five minutes of the effluvia, I concluded that the network thought we should see it.

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The gaunt comes from Ozempic and the rest comes from all the drugs he takes. You canтАЩt mix weight loss with the same dosage of drugs. It killed my bipolar MIL.

I read an article about how Jr. is 5 years (or some number) sober but I have never seen a video of him where he isnтАЩt high as a kite. Pretending not drinking alcohol makes you sober is par for the course for those who judged Hunter Biden for being a recovering addict.

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Don't forget injecting bleach as a great idea to control Covid and use nuclear bombs against hurricanes. Didn't we learn enough of this guy the first time?

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It strikes me that annexing Canada would shift the balance of power towards the democrats, no? Maybe we could finally get universal health care?

All joking aside, I think youтАЩre right, Marla. That was astute, and hadnтАЩt occurred to me in my dismay about Trump 2.0; IтАЩd kind of forgotten how awful the chaos was and IтАЩm not looking forward to this at all.

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They were saying Bernie Sanders was in support of it because of the healthcare but that isnтАЩt exactly what he said. But theyтАЩre desperate to portray Democrats as being in favor all while ignoring heтАЩs an independent.

The first thing they would do is take away their healthcare.

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KR (OH),

Reality check....who said, "I am going to be DICTATOR on Day 1....ON DAY 1"!!!

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It sure was. The Convicted Orange Felon will put the final nail in cilmateтАЩs coffin. In four years, there will be nothing left to protect, but hey, at least the oil companies made a killing (pardon the pun) and Darth Musk got his spaceship to Mars, right?

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Well done, Dutch Mike. Your sarcasm is perfectly expressed (and appreciated by this reader).

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Thanks. But we should all realise that the billionaires, especially Mr. Muskolini, do NOT want to save the planet. They want to suck it (and us, therefore) dry to the last drop, so they can live out the climate catastrophe in their bunkers with their riches. They are playing the end game full throttle: grab all you can before all hell breaks loose. The goal? To escape space or time. Musk wants to escape to Mars, others want to freeze their brains in the hopes of having it thawed in 1000 or 10.000 years and implanted in a new body. And no, I didn't make this up. Wish it were so: these people really put their money on these kind of sci-fi scenarios... Reductionist-materialistic thinking to the max. They want to live forever, and we, the rest? We can go f*ck ourselves in the face, as Musk so often says. They believe they are the new gods, and we can die in the flood or fires for whatever they care.

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National suicide, orchestrated by Rupert and a like gang of self-righteous greedy bastards. Watched it happen as Fox entertained us all into a brain-washed alternative universe. Typical cult strategy, but national suicide instead of a тАЬJim Jones style kool-aid party.тАЭ

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"Cult strategy". That nails it, JD.

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A cult as vicious as the Goebbels creation

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At least!

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You are quite right but not just the suicidal ignorant will pay the consequences, it's all of us.

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Many voters (mainly young white males) were tricked into voting for Trump through targeted social media manipulative disinformation blasts through X! That's a form of cheating, right? It should be!!! As hard as it already is, those who voted for the convicted felon, rapist, and misogynistic tyrant will be eating it along with the rest of us. Midterms can't come soon enough!

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One can nail the day too. When he stopped whining about Joe dropping out and immediately they started on misogynistic and racial vitriol. It happened almost overnight. And he seemed assured that he would win, no more whining. Money came to the rescue

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Amen!

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