The Republican’s offer of 600 B as a compromise should be considered with appropriate solemnity, and a counter offer of 2.0 T should be made by President Biden. The President and his spokespersons should highlight to all Americans that are in food lines, homeless, cold, desperate and disillusioned that it is Republicans that feel enough …
The Republican’s offer of 600 B as a compromise should be considered with appropriate solemnity, and a counter offer of 2.0 T should be made by President Biden. The President and his spokespersons should highlight to all Americans that are in food lines, homeless, cold, desperate and disillusioned that it is Republicans that feel enough has been done. Every governor and mayor across the land should speak to the needs of the states to provide resources to get vaccines to the people. TO PREVENT FURTHER DEATH of innocent people.
West Virginia has the lowest average family income in the country, if I read the articles properly. Manchin and his family make millions off of energy holdings every year. He is a two term governor and now must be in his 3rd term as senator. So what indeed has he done for his people? Protected them from having their guns taken away, from having transgender bathrooms, gay marriage? Not of course improving school systems or health care, or curtailing mining practices that destroy state resources. Not sending new generations into mines that destroy lungs.
Biden and his team should go to every red state to hold seminars and press briefings weekly. Press the issues to the real people who are suffering. Put it in the face of every republican voter.
Biden and Harris should invite Manchin and Sinema to tea. They should also invite Stacey Abrams.
Finally I wish again to call attention to the fact that we will see the death toll of INNOCENT AMERICANS reach 500 THOUSAND by the end of February!
This is NOT an ecomomic crisis. This is a NATURAL DISASTER causing and ecomomic crisis. We cannot spend ENOUGH MONEY FAST ENOUGH to fight covid. There is not any room for rational debate.
Knowing the "loyal opposition" is going to take an axe to any legislation the 2020 election winning team puts on the table, to show their home-voters they're very serious gum-chewers (and I should talk with my $2/day Orbit gum habit), a good strategy is to add some boiler-plate idiot must-have programs for the axe hackers to have something to wack on. I suggest, provision for a committee to study the idea of getting the Earth to reverse its direction of spin; fund a foundation to promote the cause of supporting motherhood and fighting death. My fall-back for a super-spender event relief spend-away winner is the (in development) do-it-yourself prefrontal lobotomy kit, small, medium, or large, with a high-tech kazoo and self-guiding instructions about how to whistle while you work as a come-on.
I agree that there need to be someone(s) going to red states to hold press briefings and seminars or whatever on a weekly basis. “Press the issue to the real people who are suffering. Put it in the face of every republican voter.” Yes! Get local and hammer on the facts and the message. This needs to be done.
"Biden and his team should go to every red state to hold seminars and press briefings weekly. Press the issues to the real people who are suffering. Put it in the face of every republican voter."
I like this idea! Do you mind if I pass it along to my Senators (Murray and Cantwell) and Representative (Larsen)?
The pandemic I would agree is a natural disaster. But the failure of our government to provide for its citizens is a "failure by design" enacted by radically dangerous Republicans for the last 50 years. It is time politically to return these dangerous anti-democratic minds to the underside of the political rock from which they emerged, working to make as whole as possible all those seriously wounded or killed by their rapacious and reckless actions.
Your musing is not some wild concoction. There is moral substance to it. Politicians should be held accountable for egregious actions which harm people and our republic. At this time, our congress is struggling with that very question, and we can see how averse the practitioners of predatory capitalism are against having to answer that question.
Ah, there you are, Judith! I've been looking everywhere for you!!
I could not for the life of me locate your post in this avalanche, the post which says "Really? The U.S. problems and the threat to Free Enterprise are the Biggest Problems in the World?? The manta Rays and sharks are dying off as they swim in the heated oceans, and the threat to freedom is the Biggest Probl . . . " and then it was cut off. [I corrected a few of your typos]
So here's my reply.
"Of course Judith, you are correct. Allow me to rephrase.
I listed the biggest political problems in the world, the biggest problems of policy in society. We are on Heather Cox Richardson's platform, in her living room.
The number one biggest problem in the world is overpopulation. Overpopulation and mismanagement of the planet by human society is way more important than society's problems, OF COURSE. You are absolutely correct."
Hello Roland, I deleted my comment because I realized before I finished since this is a history and political thread, you probably were focused on the largest political problem.
I see 2T. and 600B. as opening bids in this extremely high stakes poker game. I see the numbers as where compromise begins. And it’s not just money; it’s each side needing to say for political reasons that it negotiated itself into being the winner and its opponent is thus the loser. Both parties need to stop operating as if this is a “game” and a zero-sum game at that. Otherwise, compromise, so badly needed now, will never be seen as a positive, valuable, and essential approach to legislating.
People are suffering, dying every day! People seem more concerned with Reddit, Robinhood, and integrity of the stock market. EVERYTHING IS RELATED TO STOPPING COVID! Remember that we can barrow FREE money. Interest rates near zero.
And climate change will make Covid look like a picnic. We must control the virus and it’s offspring now and start re-tooling for for the climate changes in a continuous effort.
This is the logical outcome of “government is the enemy”. Government is the means to stop wars! Agreeing to honor law and elections peacefully.
There is no "compromise" to be had, since if Biden was stupid enough to take the bait, after they knocked his package down, they wouldn't vote for it - the same trick they pulled with the Recovery Relief Act in 2009.
Every single one of them needs to be sprayed in the face from a distance of 2 feet with Mace aerosol. A good 2 minute dose. Then leave them writhing and screaming in agony.
He has to try. He also has to make it known that he is trying to help the American people while they are not. He’s not stupid and he and his people are politically savvy.
This idea that $600B is a "compromise" proposal is ridiculous and insulting. It's 1/3 of what Biden is planning for. The Republicans are saying either, a) the plans are bloated with 3x inflated estimates, or b) 2/3 of what's in the plan is unnecessary and should be eliminated. Either interpretation is a slap-in-the-face insult. If that's the best the Republicans can to toward "bipartisanship," they need a little picture drawn for them to explain exactly where they can put their bipartisanship.
How do you cut 2/3 out of the estimated cost of rebuilding a basic house? Eliminate three walls, tilt the fourth wall to serve as as a lean-to, roll in a couple of 50 gallon drums full of garbage for heat, and dig a privy in the back yard?
Manchin is profiting from the scalping and shaving of Beautiful West Virginia mountains. A friend in Richwood where I once lived said that their "100 year flood" which ruined our town a few years back, was actually caused by big mining and forestry corporations denuding the mountains up river so there was none of the normal rain absorption (he hikes back in to his old family homestead). Thousand out of work and homeless. Oh, well.
The Republican’s offer of 600 B as a compromise should be considered with appropriate solemnity, and a counter offer of 2.0 T should be made by President Biden. The President and his spokespersons should highlight to all Americans that are in food lines, homeless, cold, desperate and disillusioned that it is Republicans that feel enough has been done. Every governor and mayor across the land should speak to the needs of the states to provide resources to get vaccines to the people. TO PREVENT FURTHER DEATH of innocent people.
West Virginia has the lowest average family income in the country, if I read the articles properly. Manchin and his family make millions off of energy holdings every year. He is a two term governor and now must be in his 3rd term as senator. So what indeed has he done for his people? Protected them from having their guns taken away, from having transgender bathrooms, gay marriage? Not of course improving school systems or health care, or curtailing mining practices that destroy state resources. Not sending new generations into mines that destroy lungs.
Biden and his team should go to every red state to hold seminars and press briefings weekly. Press the issues to the real people who are suffering. Put it in the face of every republican voter.
Biden and Harris should invite Manchin and Sinema to tea. They should also invite Stacey Abrams.
Finally I wish again to call attention to the fact that we will see the death toll of INNOCENT AMERICANS reach 500 THOUSAND by the end of February!
This is NOT an ecomomic crisis. This is a NATURAL DISASTER causing and ecomomic crisis. We cannot spend ENOUGH MONEY FAST ENOUGH to fight covid. There is not any room for rational debate.
I love you Bill. Have I told you that recently? " . . . a counter offer of 2.0 trillion . . ."
Yes! Every time they undercut the funding, raise the stakes!
Yes! I did this at my yard sale for my father's estate. Anyone who would lowball me I would up the ante. Way fun and satisfying🥰
Knowing the "loyal opposition" is going to take an axe to any legislation the 2020 election winning team puts on the table, to show their home-voters they're very serious gum-chewers (and I should talk with my $2/day Orbit gum habit), a good strategy is to add some boiler-plate idiot must-have programs for the axe hackers to have something to wack on. I suggest, provision for a committee to study the idea of getting the Earth to reverse its direction of spin; fund a foundation to promote the cause of supporting motherhood and fighting death. My fall-back for a super-spender event relief spend-away winner is the (in development) do-it-yourself prefrontal lobotomy kit, small, medium, or large, with a high-tech kazoo and self-guiding instructions about how to whistle while you work as a come-on.
I'd like to add a major project to build a wall around the edge of the earth, so that when people come to the edge, they don't fall off.
Ha-ha.
Why is there no "laugh" emoji? As she laughs.
I agree that there need to be someone(s) going to red states to hold press briefings and seminars or whatever on a weekly basis. “Press the issue to the real people who are suffering. Put it in the face of every republican voter.” Yes! Get local and hammer on the facts and the message. This needs to be done.
Since I can 💙 only once, here it what I really think of your observation: 💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
💜💙💚💛🧡❤
"Biden and his team should go to every red state to hold seminars and press briefings weekly. Press the issues to the real people who are suffering. Put it in the face of every republican voter."
I like this idea! Do you mind if I pass it along to my Senators (Murray and Cantwell) and Representative (Larsen)?
Spread the word!
The pandemic I would agree is a natural disaster. But the failure of our government to provide for its citizens is a "failure by design" enacted by radically dangerous Republicans for the last 50 years. It is time politically to return these dangerous anti-democratic minds to the underside of the political rock from which they emerged, working to make as whole as possible all those seriously wounded or killed by their rapacious and reckless actions.
Which is why I have mused several times about manslaughter. Absolute dereliction of duty. Every elected Republican is complicit!
Your musing is not some wild concoction. There is moral substance to it. Politicians should be held accountable for egregious actions which harm people and our republic. At this time, our congress is struggling with that very question, and we can see how averse the practitioners of predatory capitalism are against having to answer that question.
On human-made "natural" disasters:
Neil Coleman, Johnstown’s Flood of 1889
Mike Davis, Late Victorian Holocausts
Naomi Klein, The Shock Doctrine
Negligent homicide?
In most states, Homeless people.cannot vote.
Ah, there you are, Judith! I've been looking everywhere for you!!
I could not for the life of me locate your post in this avalanche, the post which says "Really? The U.S. problems and the threat to Free Enterprise are the Biggest Problems in the World?? The manta Rays and sharks are dying off as they swim in the heated oceans, and the threat to freedom is the Biggest Probl . . . " and then it was cut off. [I corrected a few of your typos]
So here's my reply.
"Of course Judith, you are correct. Allow me to rephrase.
I listed the biggest political problems in the world, the biggest problems of policy in society. We are on Heather Cox Richardson's platform, in her living room.
The number one biggest problem in the world is overpopulation. Overpopulation and mismanagement of the planet by human society is way more important than society's problems, OF COURSE. You are absolutely correct."
Hello Roland, I deleted my comment because I realized before I finished since this is a history and political thread, you probably were focused on the largest political problem.
😲😥😡
I see 2T. and 600B. as opening bids in this extremely high stakes poker game. I see the numbers as where compromise begins. And it’s not just money; it’s each side needing to say for political reasons that it negotiated itself into being the winner and its opponent is thus the loser. Both parties need to stop operating as if this is a “game” and a zero-sum game at that. Otherwise, compromise, so badly needed now, will never be seen as a positive, valuable, and essential approach to legislating.
Tell Repugs that opening bids start at $1.5 trillion.
heck, counter with original proposal plus checks for the full $2000 now, and again every 6 weeks for 6 months.
People are suffering, dying every day! People seem more concerned with Reddit, Robinhood, and integrity of the stock market. EVERYTHING IS RELATED TO STOPPING COVID! Remember that we can barrow FREE money. Interest rates near zero.
And climate change will make Covid look like a picnic. We must control the virus and it’s offspring now and start re-tooling for for the climate changes in a continuous effort.
This is the logical outcome of “government is the enemy”. Government is the means to stop wars! Agreeing to honor law and elections peacefully.
There is no "compromise" to be had, since if Biden was stupid enough to take the bait, after they knocked his package down, they wouldn't vote for it - the same trick they pulled with the Recovery Relief Act in 2009.
Every single one of them needs to be sprayed in the face from a distance of 2 feet with Mace aerosol. A good 2 minute dose. Then leave them writhing and screaming in agony.
He has to try. He also has to make it known that he is trying to help the American people while they are not. He’s not stupid and he and his people are politically savvy.
This idea that $600B is a "compromise" proposal is ridiculous and insulting. It's 1/3 of what Biden is planning for. The Republicans are saying either, a) the plans are bloated with 3x inflated estimates, or b) 2/3 of what's in the plan is unnecessary and should be eliminated. Either interpretation is a slap-in-the-face insult. If that's the best the Republicans can to toward "bipartisanship," they need a little picture drawn for them to explain exactly where they can put their bipartisanship.
How do you cut 2/3 out of the estimated cost of rebuilding a basic house? Eliminate three walls, tilt the fourth wall to serve as as a lean-to, roll in a couple of 50 gallon drums full of garbage for heat, and dig a privy in the back yard?
Geez....
Manchin is profiting from the scalping and shaving of Beautiful West Virginia mountains. A friend in Richwood where I once lived said that their "100 year flood" which ruined our town a few years back, was actually caused by big mining and forestry corporations denuding the mountains up river so there was none of the normal rain absorption (he hikes back in to his old family homestead). Thousand out of work and homeless. Oh, well.