I ran across this on Daily Kos today. It's a quote from Scientific American:
Studies overwhelmingly find no evidence that U.S. immigrants, including those who are undocumented, commit more crimes than native-born Americans. And now a study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA that draws from a detailed and …
I ran across this on Daily Kos today. It's a quote from Scientific American:
Studies overwhelmingly find no evidence that U.S. immigrants, including those who are undocumented, commit more crimes than native-born Americans. And now a study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA that draws from a detailed and well-sourced data set comes to an even more dramatic conclusion. It reports that between 2012 and 2018, compared with their U.S.-born neighbors, undocumented immigrants in Texas were less than half as likely to be arrested for violent crimes or drug offenses and less than a quarter as likely to be arrested for property crimes.
“Simply put, we found that undocumented immigrants have lower felony arrest rates than both legal immigrants and, especially, native-born U.S. citizens,” says study co-author Michael Light, a sociologist at the University of Wisconsin–Madison.
In my 73 yrs, I have found that most immigrants are better citizens than many natives. Perhaps it’s because they have a greater appreciation of all that we have here than many natives, who take it for granted.
I'd rather the immigrants stay and MAGA leave. Immigrants, for the most part, are people looking for safety and opportunity. MAGA is just an evil entity that is more dangerous to our country than any immigrant.
Even TFFG would rather hire an undocumented immigrant than an American. He hires H-2b's when he can and if he can't he's more than happy to hire undocumented immigrants.
I think neither Orban nor Putin would want a lot of MAGA's. The both of them, especially Putin, just want to manipulate MAGA's to undermine American liberal democracy.
Ralph, I've worked for almost 50 years with immigrants and hired many of them for construction projects and other jobs.
Most of them came here to work and build a better life for their families. Plus, it seems that most of them work harder than many Americans and certainly take pride in their work. The last thing they want is to be deported for committing a crime.
For the most part, they realize that the quality of their work is important for them to keep working.
I am a Spanish speaking white American. I always hire migrants for any job needed. They work hard and without them wouldn’t have anyone to work at all.
Absolutely, a lot of immigrants really step up once they're here, bringing fresh energy and perspectives to the table. They've often had to jump through hoops to get here, so they don't take anything for granted. This drive and appreciation can make them super committed to giving back and making a difference in their new community.
Many years ago I was prowling around the grounds of the California State Library in Sacramento, examining a (new to me) camphor tree. I would have been hard to see in the bushes, and there was no one else around. Then, I saw a young-ish man who appeared to be Pakistani or something, ride up, get off his bicycle, and face a large US flag that was waving overhead, then put his hand over his heart. Then he continued on his way. I'm not so keen on flag waving, but that left a tear in my eye.
Good one J L. HCR correctly noted that a Texas lawyer [ Aaron Lloyd Nielsen ] told the 5th Circuit that Texas "may have gone too far." Actually Governor Abbott has admitted that Texas' SB4 was modeled after an Antonin Scalia sole dissent in 2012.
See, David G. Savages recent L.A. Times' article, "An old Scalia dissent is driving Texas' immigration dispute" with Federal law. Of course, dissents have no weight on SCOTUS' Constitutional Opinions.
Texas is attempting to pitch Scalia's "sovereign states" dicta to any five (5) of the current Justices. Texas may already have as many as four (4) SCOTUS votes right now assuming there is no change in the structure of SCOTUS or the number of Justices.
Scalia’s evil lives on. How smart of Texas to look for a dissent (loser position) to base their brilliant law on. Catch them if you can. But look at the damage and the wasted time.
I wrote this about a month ago - supporting your position. Despite the title, this letter is about NEEDING more immigrants to solve more than one problem.
They are cheated out of promised wages, and most often unable to get licenses and insurance. They have almost zero ability to report thefts from them, or other crimes against them (or even our citizens). That means they also don't want to be innocent witnesses that can help stop real criminals with information they can provide (beyond police using it without having to have them exposed to legal consequences that could get them deported).
I could appreciate a truck with 3 who I assume were undocumented who pulled off the freeway to warn a medical facility of a brush fire, making sure the people were safe before they ran back to the truck to get away before anyone could identify them or the truck .
There was no way I was going to try to get close enough to identify them or the truck, just very appreciative of the personal risk they took to make sure others were safe.
Yep. A felony conviction for even someone here on a green card means deportation.
I know someone from St. Stephen, NB that has been in the US for 30 years. He was arrested for a felony DUI because the people involved in the crash were seriously hurt plus he was way over the limit. His lawyer plead the felony down to a misdemeanor. He still served 6 months in county jail, but he wasn't deported.
This is definitely true and you have the facts to prove it. Trump and his mega Republicans know it's true also. Unfortunately Trump used immigration as a hatered political strategy to gravitate his base. Now it has mutated into division and violence against innocent people who want to come to this country to work. Like the immigrants who sacrificed their life's working at 1 am. to cover pot holes at the bridge at Baltimore.
I ran across this on Daily Kos today. It's a quote from Scientific American:
Studies overwhelmingly find no evidence that U.S. immigrants, including those who are undocumented, commit more crimes than native-born Americans. And now a study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA that draws from a detailed and well-sourced data set comes to an even more dramatic conclusion. It reports that between 2012 and 2018, compared with their U.S.-born neighbors, undocumented immigrants in Texas were less than half as likely to be arrested for violent crimes or drug offenses and less than a quarter as likely to be arrested for property crimes.
“Simply put, we found that undocumented immigrants have lower felony arrest rates than both legal immigrants and, especially, native-born U.S. citizens,” says study co-author Michael Light, a sociologist at the University of Wisconsin–Madison.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/4/2/2233104/-Trump-lied-about-talking-to-a-murder-victim-s-family-It-never-happened#comment_88370132
In my 73 yrs, I have found that most immigrants are better citizens than many natives. Perhaps it’s because they have a greater appreciation of all that we have here than many natives, who take it for granted.
I'd rather the immigrants stay and MAGA leave. Immigrants, for the most part, are people looking for safety and opportunity. MAGA is just an evil entity that is more dangerous to our country than any immigrant.
Agreed! We could trade MAGA’s for immigrants, but who would want the MAGA’s?
Even TFFG would rather hire an undocumented immigrant than an American. He hires H-2b's when he can and if he can't he's more than happy to hire undocumented immigrants.
Putin?
That's what I was going to say! Putin can have them all.
Idk. Maybe Alcatraz? 😂 They could all live and fight with each other while we fix everything they broke.
Orban, perhaps?
I think neither Orban nor Putin would want a lot of MAGA's. The both of them, especially Putin, just want to manipulate MAGA's to undermine American liberal democracy.
Agreed!
Ralph, I've worked for almost 50 years with immigrants and hired many of them for construction projects and other jobs.
Most of them came here to work and build a better life for their families. Plus, it seems that most of them work harder than many Americans and certainly take pride in their work. The last thing they want is to be deported for committing a crime.
For the most part, they realize that the quality of their work is important for them to keep working.
I’m a retired construction worker and had the same experience working with immigrants, legal and otherwise.
I am a Spanish speaking white American. I always hire migrants for any job needed. They work hard and without them wouldn’t have anyone to work at all.
72 here :)
Absolutely, a lot of immigrants really step up once they're here, bringing fresh energy and perspectives to the table. They've often had to jump through hoops to get here, so they don't take anything for granted. This drive and appreciation can make them super committed to giving back and making a difference in their new community.
My experience has been the same Michael. As they say in Texas, clear eyes, full hearts.
Many years ago I was prowling around the grounds of the California State Library in Sacramento, examining a (new to me) camphor tree. I would have been hard to see in the bushes, and there was no one else around. Then, I saw a young-ish man who appeared to be Pakistani or something, ride up, get off his bicycle, and face a large US flag that was waving overhead, then put his hand over his heart. Then he continued on his way. I'm not so keen on flag waving, but that left a tear in my eye.
If I were trying to flee an unsafe situation in my home country, I would bend over backwards to be a MODEL citizen if I wanted to enter the US.
I try to be extra polite in other countries.
Good one J L. HCR correctly noted that a Texas lawyer [ Aaron Lloyd Nielsen ] told the 5th Circuit that Texas "may have gone too far." Actually Governor Abbott has admitted that Texas' SB4 was modeled after an Antonin Scalia sole dissent in 2012.
See, David G. Savages recent L.A. Times' article, "An old Scalia dissent is driving Texas' immigration dispute" with Federal law. Of course, dissents have no weight on SCOTUS' Constitutional Opinions.
Texas is attempting to pitch Scalia's "sovereign states" dicta to any five (5) of the current Justices. Texas may already have as many as four (4) SCOTUS votes right now assuming there is no change in the structure of SCOTUS or the number of Justices.
Scalia’s evil lives on. How smart of Texas to look for a dissent (loser position) to base their brilliant law on. Catch them if you can. But look at the damage and the wasted time.
Not good for this Texan.
True that.
Well, J.L., thank you for this most welcome news!
I wrote this about a month ago - supporting your position. Despite the title, this letter is about NEEDING more immigrants to solve more than one problem.
https://billalstrom.substack.com/p/fix-social-security-now
Yes! Well done, Bill.
I wonder why that is. Could it just be that undocumented immigrants are afraid they would be deported if they were caught?
They are cheated out of promised wages, and most often unable to get licenses and insurance. They have almost zero ability to report thefts from them, or other crimes against them (or even our citizens). That means they also don't want to be innocent witnesses that can help stop real criminals with information they can provide (beyond police using it without having to have them exposed to legal consequences that could get them deported).
I could appreciate a truck with 3 who I assume were undocumented who pulled off the freeway to warn a medical facility of a brush fire, making sure the people were safe before they ran back to the truck to get away before anyone could identify them or the truck .
There was no way I was going to try to get close enough to identify them or the truck, just very appreciative of the personal risk they took to make sure others were safe.
Yep. A felony conviction for even someone here on a green card means deportation.
I know someone from St. Stephen, NB that has been in the US for 30 years. He was arrested for a felony DUI because the people involved in the crash were seriously hurt plus he was way over the limit. His lawyer plead the felony down to a misdemeanor. He still served 6 months in county jail, but he wasn't deported.
Heard the same thing as well. What to do with the anti-immigrant herd.
That makes sense. People who are undocumented won’t risk discovery and deportation by knowingly committing a crime.
I agree JL!!!I believe immigrants aren’t being treated fairly!!
What Trump does is criminal, even apart from the broken families separated on his orders.
Thank you for challenging lies with facts JL.
This is definitely true and you have the facts to prove it. Trump and his mega Republicans know it's true also. Unfortunately Trump used immigration as a hatered political strategy to gravitate his base. Now it has mutated into division and violence against innocent people who want to come to this country to work. Like the immigrants who sacrificed their life's working at 1 am. to cover pot holes at the bridge at Baltimore.
This has been well documented in many trustworthy studies and publications. Thank you for the reinforcement.!
Immigrants are destroying this country, but it’s only the immigrants from Australia named Murdoch who are a problem.