I live in Florida and remember the Brooks Brothers riot quite well. If you think that these efforts don’t matter, think again. Roger Stone (and a sympathetic Supreme Court) delivered the presidency to George W. Bush. By a measly 537 votes.
But even though the Florida Supreme Court upheld the six-week abortion ban, it also allowed the vote…
I live in Florida and remember the Brooks Brothers riot quite well. If you think that these efforts don’t matter, think again. Roger Stone (and a sympathetic Supreme Court) delivered the presidency to George W. Bush. By a measly 537 votes.
But even though the Florida Supreme Court upheld the six-week abortion ban, it also allowed the voters a voice on the November ballot, making Florida “Ground Zero” according to Rick Wilson.
So let’s remember the three V’s: be vigilant, be vociferous, and VOTE!
Roger Stone just keeps popping up all over the place. Wonder what he's up to now. I'm guessing he's figuring out a way to keep Alan Grayson from registering 1,000,000 FL dems.
Voting is easy, but if we can we need to
Get Out The Vote
by supporting Grayson, Abrams, Rorke, MoveOn, etc.
Roger Stone is such an unsavory character committing so many nefarious acts and involved in criminality behind the scenes of already horrible Republican candidates that he seems to be an actual Bond villain or a comic book supervillain. He even looks and reminds me of the Penguin from the Batman comics. https://twitter.com/jdlovitz/status/1088858113493647362
Even more bizarre and disturbing is the fact that he has Nixon's face tattooed on his back.
Lots of tattoos is a psychological method of changing who you are because you don’t like your original self. How do you know about Stone’s tattoo of Nixon? It is weird if true, but honestly I find the many crimes he has committed far more disturbing.
Ah, thanks for the info about interior motivations. I guess it helps confirm first impressions, to have details of how disturbed and cray-cray various members of the current plot to bring down the government of the United States actually are. Makes it easier to stop giving them the benefit of the doubt.
A huge problem for our country is that so many have been “giving them the benefit of the doubt for so long”. When love and altruism are your MO it’s hard to imagine that it isn’t the same for everyone. It helps to be a student of violence and the human mind. Maybe we should give more respect to the experts in the field. Dr. Bandy Lee comes to mind.
Let's see how quickly the R's decide to require a 70% threshold instead of the proposed 60% to allow the ballot initiative to take effect...another state tried to do the same by trying to require the margin to be 60% but the 50% was enforced.
I was living in Paris when Dubya got in. There were internet jokes about the Florida votes. And, to start with, about Dubya. I remember a newspaper comment a few months later: "What are the Americans up to? There's total silence." Follow the dots.
Because the GOP blusters about law and order while engaging in the opposite and Democrats actually believe in law and order and want fairness, equality, justice and peace.
Actually it was 537 votes more popular votes awarded to Bush. The only reason for me to be a bit picky about the actual vote was that it happened to be the same as the total votes cast in the Electoral College (271 for Bush/Cheney, 266 for Gore/Lieberman, though 267 were pledged to vote for Gore/Lieberman). One Elector from D.C. abstained making the total 1 less than the 538 normally cast.
If the popular vote assigned to Gore/Lieberman had been 538 popular votes higher, they would have won with 292 EC votes to 246. Florida at the time had 25 Electoral votes so, if added to the 267 (instead of 266 with the abstaining vote), would make a 46 vote margin for Gore/Lieberman.
As it was the abstaining vote let Bush/Cheney be declared the winners by a 5 EC vote margin (instead of a4 vote margin if the Elector had voted as pledged).
Thanks for correcting my typo! You are right. And if not for the Stone et al shenanigans, the difference would have been made up with a couple of more days of counting.
I live in Florida and remember the Brooks Brothers riot quite well. If you think that these efforts don’t matter, think again. Roger Stone (and a sympathetic Supreme Court) delivered the presidency to George W. Bush. By a measly 537 votes.
But even though the Florida Supreme Court upheld the six-week abortion ban, it also allowed the voters a voice on the November ballot, making Florida “Ground Zero” according to Rick Wilson.
So let’s remember the three V’s: be vigilant, be vociferous, and VOTE!
Roger Stone just keeps popping up all over the place. Wonder what he's up to now. I'm guessing he's figuring out a way to keep Alan Grayson from registering 1,000,000 FL dems.
Voting is easy, but if we can we need to
Get Out The Vote
by supporting Grayson, Abrams, Rorke, MoveOn, etc.
Roger Stone is such an unsavory character committing so many nefarious acts and involved in criminality behind the scenes of already horrible Republican candidates that he seems to be an actual Bond villain or a comic book supervillain. He even looks and reminds me of the Penguin from the Batman comics. https://twitter.com/jdlovitz/status/1088858113493647362
Even more bizarre and disturbing is the fact that he has Nixon's face tattooed on his back.
I would rather talk to Nixon on Stone's back than talk to his frontside. Ugh. He's almost as disgusting as TFFG.
Lots of tattoos is a psychological method of changing who you are because you don’t like your original self. How do you know about Stone’s tattoo of Nixon? It is weird if true, but honestly I find the many crimes he has committed far more disturbing.
It’s well documented in numerous places. Takes a little curiosity to find a photo of it. He’s very proud of it and does not try to hide it
Ah, thanks for the info about interior motivations. I guess it helps confirm first impressions, to have details of how disturbed and cray-cray various members of the current plot to bring down the government of the United States actually are. Makes it easier to stop giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Absolutely!!
A huge problem for our country is that so many have been “giving them the benefit of the doubt for so long”. When love and altruism are your MO it’s hard to imagine that it isn’t the same for everyone. It helps to be a student of violence and the human mind. Maybe we should give more respect to the experts in the field. Dr. Bandy Lee comes to mind.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dangerous_Case_of_Donald_Trump
As Barb McQuade says, the bigger question is what’s keeping him from adding the king of con?
https://twitter.com/BarbMcQuade/status/1281927921280659456?lang=en
That is very strange and disturbing.
Is there any historical precedent for overturning s presidential pardon? If so, Stone would be a good test case.
Roger Stone even brags about his trickery in "Get Me Roger Stone" at https://www.netflix.com/title/80114666
Thanks, I think I do remember hearing about that one. I'll have to check that out if I can stomach it.
Unsavory is too kind an adjective to describe Roger Stone.
Yes truly it is too kind of a word for him. Even 4 letter cuss words seem too nice to describe him.
Voting is easy but informed voting is an ongoing effort.
He is more dangerous when we don’t hear from him.
Matt Schlapp, head of CPAC, was a ‘Brooks Brothers Riot’ participant.
Justices Roberts, Kavanaugh and Barrett all worked on Bush's legal team during that colossal steal.
That little tidbit upsets me greatly, and has since I first learned of it. I am absolutely disgusted.
I know. One could almost imagine it as payback.
They will never forget the win that the dirty tricks gave them in Florida. Especially since it was blessed by the old guard.
Let's see how quickly the R's decide to require a 70% threshold instead of the proposed 60% to allow the ballot initiative to take effect...another state tried to do the same by trying to require the margin to be 60% but the 50% was enforced.
That was Ohio, arguably THE most corrupt state in the union.
I was living in Paris when Dubya got in. There were internet jokes about the Florida votes. And, to start with, about Dubya. I remember a newspaper comment a few months later: "What are the Americans up to? There's total silence." Follow the dots.
An follow the money.
Because the GOP blusters about law and order while engaging in the opposite and Democrats actually believe in law and order and want fairness, equality, justice and peace.
You're so right. Empty vessels make the most sound.
Actually it was 537 votes more popular votes awarded to Bush. The only reason for me to be a bit picky about the actual vote was that it happened to be the same as the total votes cast in the Electoral College (271 for Bush/Cheney, 266 for Gore/Lieberman, though 267 were pledged to vote for Gore/Lieberman). One Elector from D.C. abstained making the total 1 less than the 538 normally cast.
If the popular vote assigned to Gore/Lieberman had been 538 popular votes higher, they would have won with 292 EC votes to 246. Florida at the time had 25 Electoral votes so, if added to the 267 (instead of 266 with the abstaining vote), would make a 46 vote margin for Gore/Lieberman.
As it was the abstaining vote let Bush/Cheney be declared the winners by a 5 EC vote margin (instead of a4 vote margin if the Elector had voted as pledged).
Thanks for correcting my typo! You are right. And if not for the Stone et al shenanigans, the difference would have been made up with a couple of more days of counting.