Good for Judge Merchan. If I remember correctly what I recently read elsewhere about NY state law, when, not if, Trump violates the gag order and the judge cites him for contempt, the judge has the option of fining him $1,000 or sentencing him to 30 days in jail. Those are the only two options. $1,000 is nothing to Trump. I would love it if Judge Merchan were to sentence him to the 30 days. It might be grounds for an appeal, but the state could put the shoe on the other foot and slow-roll the appeal. A guy can dream.... Imagine the Orange Abomination in orange for 30 days.
I can imagine Trump in jail. What I can't imagine is how how the transition from his being free to being jailed would occur and how the cult would react.
Exactly what would happen Dave (Dalton). The guy is a total POS, but he says things the MAgators say amongst themselves particularly when they have an audience they can shock. He needs to have the shit kicked out of him. Where the hell is Clark Kent? We need him!
I'll go one better.., I'm gonna give Tanya Harding a ring. She does knees. Spike Lee will be called in next. A Kung-Foo experience, while still on crutches would probably necessitate dental surgery and wiring his jaw shut. Of course employing an 'immigrant' anesthesiologist for the knee surgery repair might do the trick. Huh?
Better yet, ,no phones or internet or tv. HeтАЩd probably be in solitary due to his propensity to run his mouth, or pledge heтАЩd free all the other inmatesтАж..
Just dreamin' -- some form of house arrest (limit square footage to basics) with no internet, no phone access, and no news? Add carefully monitored outdoor time once daily for driving golf balls.
Cross between crass comedy and god knows this might drag some extremists out of their caves.... I do wonder, if that's an overdone worry. Trump's incendiary against Jean Carroll pretty much went "quiet" when the cost hit 86 million and he's had to post bond for that amount plus interest and fees, which he's likely for forego.
тАЬthe judge has the option of fining him $1,000 or sentencing him to 30 days in jailтАЬ
The judge also has the option of doing both (fining him AND putting him in jail).
Unfortunately sentencing would likely be house arrest (vs an actual jail cell). Although I know many here (including myself) would prefer to see him in a jail cell.
It will be another press release. As long as people say the name, the corporate raiders donтАЩt care what he does. They want resources and tax breaks and VOTES to keep them free from taxes.
Stop begging him to behave. No Schitt Sherlock. IтАЩm so sick of his whining and the slaps on the wrist and tsk tsk, behave yourself admonitions. We are being held hostage by a clown with a flamethrower. At some point, hostage negotiators will have to unite and act. So far they are dispersed and on the defensive. Was Judge Cannons comments an April fools joke or more than a slap on the wrist?
He is a clown ENABLER. That is the rotten part. He is nothing without the big money followers, the corrupt owners that want to finally kill the vote. .. who will instantly do damage to earthтАЩs resources if their minions тАЬsupportтАЭ him .
Permanently cut off his internet sources. There must be some tech geniuses who could cut him off. Sort of a science fiction cloud about him that is a black hole that stays offline. (Our internet provider manages to do it to us enough times.)
The threat is VERY real indeed. We are on the precipice. It will take very little to tip US into Dante's Inferno: a malstrom we will not be able to survive soon, or maybe at all.
Power tends to corrupt, and money is a form of power. In fact, in a corrupt society, money, political power, and violence are all muddled together, and highly interchangeable.
The judges think that too. And they are trying to strike a balance between reining in a sociopath, and giving the sociopath the martyr status he craves.
Mine, too, Jeri! And then the creek (Ohio River) did rise, reinforcing that bit of wisdom. Mom was 13 when she learned that you canтАЩt deliver on promises if the creek decides otherwise!
The Ohio River flood of 1937 took place in late January and February 1937. With damage stretching from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, to Cairo, Illinois, 385 people died, one million people were left homeless and property losses reached $500 million ($10.2 billion when adjusted for inflation as of September 2022).
Wow, what a story. My mom never had to face such a comeuppance. Had no idea such a thing happened in that area. Or anywhere in the USA. Wisdom can be complicated...
Lock him up. dotard will be a PITA everyday until he's expired. Maybe even somehow after that. He's a disgusting pox. So he might as well be made to follow the rules/laws, regardless of whether the dotardians are riled or not. It would be a sad damn event for a former, though completely awful, U.S. president to be jailed, but if any former president was asking for that, dotard should be the one to set that precedent. Nixon was coddled. He shouldn't have been. It's also a mistake to coddle the crybaby, dotard.
Anyone who has grown up around bullies knows that you don't make them stop by accommodating them. They just bully harder, trying to find your limits and trying to get away with as much as they possibly can.
Bullies also find out that many of their supporters disappear when their bluff is called.
Trump will be jailed sooner or later, unless the Devil gets him first. Better to call contempt, jail him now and take the inevitable pain from his supporters, who will be fewer in number when they realize he can be punished and isn't the untouchable superman he makes himself out to be.
That's why we need to get the 1st criminal trial going and get him convicted.
Hopefully it will be televised so the Repressive Regressives won't be able to lie about what's happening in court. Let me rephrase -- so when they lie about what's happening in court there will be video evidence to refute their lies.
He just needs to go to jail. Anyone else who defied a gag order like that, even if it fell in a loophole, would be in jail. Because what judge would put up with his daughter being terrorized by that piece of sh**. I am so sick of this two tiered justice system.
And what was up with lowering his bond. I have yet to hear a explanation on why that happened.
And yes, Garland needs to get on Jim Jordan, and Ron Johnson....very fishy activities. As well as Comer.
Unfortunately, I think he perceives going to jail for awhile as offering him two positives - at least: it would likely help him with fundraising and possibly even more prestigious for him; heтАЩd now [or then] be able to add another first to his of dubious accolades something more that former President Obama doesnтАЩt have!
chump trump write a book тАж surely you jest - have you seen some of his tweets and other posts - but then again, his target supporters didnтАЩt attend elite colleges and universities!
Right! HeтАЩs functionally illiterate, and writes at the level of a third grader. What will he do in jail if his ghost writers arenтАЩt given visiting rights and the Orange Menace canтАЩt have a smartphone? Oh, I want to fantasize about this for awhile!
Precisely what he is angling for-inciting violence by being locked up-he so desperately wants martyrdom status. Only his supporters will give him that-the problem may be what comes with it. The former Republican Party was afraid to push back forming the new Autocratic Party of today. Will we have the courage and the will to push back and deal with the blowback from his supporters? I do believe so-time for accountability and all the consequences that come with it.
Lock the insipid bastard up like any other criminal that preys on society, he will soon be forgotten about as a political force, heтАЩs an aberration and always has been, speaking of has beenтАЩs.
Jail time will make him a martyr in the eyes of his followers. The judge is between a rock and a hard place. What can he do to preserve the integrity of the court? Warnings intensify the rhetoric; fines mean nothing because somehow Trump gets the money from guys like Hankey. Everything that happens to him is turned into campaign fodder. If the judge's daughter is physically hurt by a MAGA acolyte, Trump stays at arm's length. We failed to legally "cause and effect" his rhetoric and the Jan6 insurrection, despite the House Committee's brilliant development of the case against him. What options- short of an Act of God- are left to stop him?
Will anyone actually enforce the gag order? No one has done anything to deter Trump yet. Can't help but feel that no one else would get away with all Trump has said and done. Pathetic!
Trump, longing to intensify his contrived role of aggrieved martyr, will keep testing the judge and the limits of the gag order.
Will he risk jail time for contempt of court to enrage his supporters to commit violence? And give him more money? Something must give.
Good for Judge Merchan. If I remember correctly what I recently read elsewhere about NY state law, when, not if, Trump violates the gag order and the judge cites him for contempt, the judge has the option of fining him $1,000 or sentencing him to 30 days in jail. Those are the only two options. $1,000 is nothing to Trump. I would love it if Judge Merchan were to sentence him to the 30 days. It might be grounds for an appeal, but the state could put the shoe on the other foot and slow-roll the appeal. A guy can dream.... Imagine the Orange Abomination in orange for 30 days.
Name me any other American who would 1) need a gag order to be civil and 2) not be thrown in the hoosegow for 30 days.
And is running for president of a country he despises.
hoosegow! My word of the day!
Roger Stone comes to mind!
I can imagine Trump in jail. What I can't imagine is how how the transition from his being free to being jailed would occur and how the cult would react.
Betsy, IтАЩm sure the Cult will react, but based on J6 consequence, how far will they go? The leaders are already being scrutinized
DonтАЩt Fear the Reaper, its only cowbells
Exactly what would happen Dave (Dalton). The guy is a total POS, but he says things the MAgators say amongst themselves particularly when they have an audience they can shock. He needs to have the shit kicked out of him. Where the hell is Clark Kent? We need him!
Where the hell is Merrick Garland? We have needed him all along
IтАЩm calling on Underdog
I'll go one better.., I'm gonna give Tanya Harding a ring. She does knees. Spike Lee will be called in next. A Kung-Foo experience, while still on crutches would probably necessitate dental surgery and wiring his jaw shut. Of course employing an 'immigrant' anesthesiologist for the knee surgery repair might do the trick. Huh?
https://youtu.be/Pa1fH0SvGPg?si=2fgs5jllFTiTVHhS
Naw, letтАЩs let a woman do it. That will really get his shorts in a bunch:
https://youtu.be/8wtDRs99leU?si=Nw1CTAun36dxIRGz
Imagine how the transition from jail back to freedom would play out!
"I am a MARTYR for you!"
lol, LET it
Better yet, ,no phones or internet or tv. HeтАЩd probably be in solitary due to his propensity to run his mouth, or pledge heтАЩd free all the other inmatesтАж..
Scary
With a shaved head, to prevent the spread of lice of course, and getting to shower with the rest of the inmates, just one more tweet please ЁЯЩП
Spare the other inmates the sight of the amoral orange creatures body!
Just dreamin' -- some form of house arrest (limit square footage to basics) with no internet, no phone access, and no news? Add carefully monitored outdoor time once daily for driving golf balls.
Name me any other American who would 1) need a gag order to be civil and 2) not be thrown in the hoosegow for 30 days.
Cross between crass comedy and god knows this might drag some extremists out of their caves.... I do wonder, if that's an overdone worry. Trump's incendiary against Jean Carroll pretty much went "quiet" when the cost hit 86 million and he's had to post bond for that amount plus interest and fees, which he's likely for forego.
тАЬthe judge has the option of fining him $1,000 or sentencing him to 30 days in jailтАЬ
The judge also has the option of doing both (fining him AND putting him in jail).
Unfortunately sentencing would likely be house arrest (vs an actual jail cell). Although I know many here (including myself) would prefer to see him in a jail cell.
ThatтАЩs a start
It will be another press release. As long as people say the name, the corporate raiders donтАЩt care what he does. They want resources and tax breaks and VOTES to keep them free from taxes.
These are the judges, not Dems per se. this could be a case of be careful what you wish for.
Lock him up! If it were you or I, no judge would put up with his nonsense. Stop begging him to behave.
Stop begging him to behave. No Schitt Sherlock. IтАЩm so sick of his whining and the slaps on the wrist and tsk tsk, behave yourself admonitions. We are being held hostage by a clown with a flamethrower. At some point, hostage negotiators will have to unite and act. So far they are dispersed and on the defensive. Was Judge Cannons comments an April fools joke or more than a slap on the wrist?
Donald John Punk. ЁЯдбЁЯТйЁЯОГ is unfit for any public office.
Most appropriate name
The religious imp that he is texted 70 times from church during his sacred Easter service?
Sacrilegious to the max. He is the ultimate Elmer Gantry, but without the faith of a quasi believer
I consider him the anti-Christ.
He's about as "anti" as one can get. He doesn't even have many human characteristics...
That piece by Amanda Marcotte is indeed frightening.
He is a clown ENABLER. That is the rotten part. He is nothing without the big money followers, the corrupt owners that want to finally kill the vote. .. who will instantly do damage to earthтАЩs resources if their minions тАЬsupportтАЭ him .
The earth quivers
Me, too, Jeri!! Me, too.
So glad there are others who heave at his name
Permanently cut off his internet sources. There must be some tech geniuses who could cut him off. Sort of a science fiction cloud about him that is a black hole that stays offline. (Our internet provider manages to do it to us enough times.)
He should have been in jail long ago. The special consideration and treatment he receives is outrageous.
The threat is VERY real indeed. We are on the precipice. It will take very little to tip US into Dante's Inferno: a malstrom we will not be able to survive soon, or maybe at all.
There is life in democracy yet, but we have to play it smart and we have to play it full.
And stop with the pussy-footing around
He's a chump, that Donald Trump. He's going to get caught, just you wait and see...
Worse than a chump, he's a bully. He's always been one. Daddy's money provided him shelter that few other Americans ever got.
Best lesson in horrific parenting, ever
Entitlement can be deadly.
Doesn't have to be. But certainly is in his case. And it doesn't look like his kids' apples have fallen too far from the tree
Power tends to corrupt, and money is a form of power. In fact, in a corrupt society, money, political power, and violence are all muddled together, and highly interchangeable.
Could go either way.
Yeah, just poetic convenience. He's an apparent "sociopath". Money can encourage that.
"Why's everybody always pickin' on me?"
James, cuz heтАЩs a dick
тАЬHeтАЩs gonna get caught, just you wait and seeтАЭ
Some of us are old enough to remember that song. :-)
J L, heтАЩd say тАЬwhyтАЩs everybody always picking on me?тАЭ
Yes, I really think Trump is doing this deliberately so he can go to jail. To instigate Trump voters.
The judges think that too. And they are trying to strike a balance between reining in a sociopath, and giving the sociopath the martyr status he craves.
So he wins either way?
of course he does... until he doesn't, the good lord willing and the creek don't rise.
aww, my mom used to use that saying all the time.
Mine, too, Jeri! And then the creek (Ohio River) did rise, reinforcing that bit of wisdom. Mom was 13 when she learned that you canтАЩt deliver on promises if the creek decides otherwise!
The Ohio River flood of 1937 took place in late January and February 1937. With damage stretching from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, to Cairo, Illinois, 385 people died, one million people were left homeless and property losses reached $500 million ($10.2 billion when adjusted for inflation as of September 2022).
Wow, what a story. My mom never had to face such a comeuppance. Had no idea such a thing happened in that area. Or anywhere in the USA. Wisdom can be complicated...
Lock him up. dotard will be a PITA everyday until he's expired. Maybe even somehow after that. He's a disgusting pox. So he might as well be made to follow the rules/laws, regardless of whether the dotardians are riled or not. It would be a sad damn event for a former, though completely awful, U.S. president to be jailed, but if any former president was asking for that, dotard should be the one to set that precedent. Nixon was coddled. He shouldn't have been. It's also a mistake to coddle the crybaby, dotard.
Anyone who has grown up around bullies knows that you don't make them stop by accommodating them. They just bully harder, trying to find your limits and trying to get away with as much as they possibly can.
Bullies also find out that many of their supporters disappear when their bluff is called.
Trump will be jailed sooner or later, unless the Devil gets him first. Better to call contempt, jail him now and take the inevitable pain from his supporters, who will be fewer in number when they realize he can be punished and isn't the untouchable superman he makes himself out to be.
I'm with you. My parents didn't coddle my bro who had a birth defect. . Poor and uneducated but way smarter than the chump parents.
That's why we need to get the 1st criminal trial going and get him convicted.
Hopefully it will be televised so the Repressive Regressives won't be able to lie about what's happening in court. Let me rephrase -- so when they lie about what's happening in court there will be video evidence to refute their lies.
Can the citizens make a class action suit against the government for not enforcing the rule of law on a clear and present danger?
Good question Marj
He just needs to go to jail. Anyone else who defied a gag order like that, even if it fell in a loophole, would be in jail. Because what judge would put up with his daughter being terrorized by that piece of sh**. I am so sick of this two tiered justice system.
And what was up with lowering his bond. I have yet to hear a explanation on why that happened.
And yes, Garland needs to get on Jim Jordan, and Ron Johnson....very fishy activities. As well as Comer.
me too
Unfortunately, I think he perceives going to jail for awhile as offering him two positives - at least: it would likely help him with fundraising and possibly even more prestigious for him; heтАЩd now [or then] be able to add another first to his of dubious accolades something more that former President Obama doesnтАЩt have!
Hitler wrote mein kampf in confinement. ItтАЩs all a weird fantasy.
chump trump write a book тАж surely you jest - have you seen some of his tweets and other posts - but then again, his target supporters didnтАЩt attend elite colleges and universities!
Good point.
I guess thatтАЩll make chump-trump a Hitler wannabe?
Right! HeтАЩs functionally illiterate, and writes at the level of a third grader. What will he do in jail if his ghost writers arenтАЩt given visiting rights and the Orange Menace canтАЩt have a smartphone? Oh, I want to fantasize about this for awhile!
Precisely what he is angling for-inciting violence by being locked up-he so desperately wants martyrdom status. Only his supporters will give him that-the problem may be what comes with it. The former Republican Party was afraid to push back forming the new Autocratic Party of today. Will we have the courage and the will to push back and deal with the blowback from his supporters? I do believe so-time for accountability and all the consequences that come with it.
HeтАЩd probably make a fortune if he dies for The Cause.
Lock the insipid bastard up like any other criminal that preys on society, he will soon be forgotten about as a political force, heтАЩs an aberration and always has been, speaking of has beenтАЩs.
Jail time will make him a martyr in the eyes of his followers. The judge is between a rock and a hard place. What can he do to preserve the integrity of the court? Warnings intensify the rhetoric; fines mean nothing because somehow Trump gets the money from guys like Hankey. Everything that happens to him is turned into campaign fodder. If the judge's daughter is physically hurt by a MAGA acolyte, Trump stays at arm's length. We failed to legally "cause and effect" his rhetoric and the Jan6 insurrection, despite the House Committee's brilliant development of the case against him. What options- short of an Act of God- are left to stop him?
He is incapable of seeing himself as risking jail time. He has learned over and over again that he can skirt the law and he will continue to do so.
Will anyone actually enforce the gag order? No one has done anything to deter Trump yet. Can't help but feel that no one else would get away with all Trump has said and done. Pathetic!
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